Weapon for int ds

[pimoh]

well its simple, i tested out full str and full vit, i prefer to hit 10k less and have 50k hp more than the other way around
for example switching fire twins (300str) boost my dmg from 20k to 22k regs; 90% of the dmg of a zerk with polearm comes from raw WA




if i follow the example of this retard of sniper, i will end up with few HP and completely useless in a melee PVP situation.
If I had an upg weapon, Id probably go str.

*as u can see i dont have any problem 1 shotting upper lol

I thought you are talk about Dekan's build, why a Giant came into this topic, sorry im a littlebit confuse of what info you are refering to a person asking about this thread "WEAPON for INT DS" about? maybe just stick to the topic people.

[Hjinm]

I thought you are talk about Dekan's build, why a Giant came into this topic, sorry im a littlebit confuse of what info you are refering to a person asking about this thread "WEAPON for INT DS" about? maybe just stick to the topic people.

I tought we were talking with human beings, not down syndrome children
go read all the story, count to 10, answer the topic

[pimoh]

I tought we were talking with human beings, not down syndrome children
go read all the story, count to 10, answer the topic

I cant answer since im no expert in dekans and since in PH until I migrated here, I never played dekan class so I cant comment about it, the only know the old days for dekan is pure vit DK and that was before changes to the skill of DFFS. Well to give a little info of what I know about DK Sage is to have a weapon with magic/melee and some hp, but since theres no magic attack to upgrade weapons available so I guess a DK sage relies to its INT stat build instead of pure Vit thats what I know since DK sage's skills like breath relies to magic attack.

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[White Arctic Fox]

I cant answer since im no expert in dekans and since in PH until I migrated here, I never played dekan class so I cant comment about it, the only know the old days for dekan is pure vit DK and that was before changes to the skill of DFFS. Well to give a little info of what I know about DK Sage is to have a weapon with magic/melee and some hp, but since theres no magic attack to upgrade weapons available so I guess a DK sage relies to its INT stat build instead of pure Vit thats what I know since DK sage's skills like breath relies to magic attack.

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Int Sages have been changed with the update yea, the koreans seem to have 2 things they focus on while balancing

1. Everything became self buffed so you're forced to pvp in partys
2. Melee classes (as in melee range) got a multiplier that converts the classes main stat into melee attack so they can farm/PVP with auto attacks, look at dragon knight zhen mastery (hp = melee) dragon sage zhen mastery (magic attack gets converted to melee) or dhans katar mastery which converts agi to melee attack.

When you pvp with a dekan, it's not DFFS or WFFS or FFS or Breath or Health drain that does the damage, in pvp you will maybe hit 20-40k with these skills, considdering people easily reach 300k hp that's nothing. Those skills are (when rohan was made, to my knowledge) intended as skills to give the finishing blow, thus why the FFS based skills and Health drain ignore damge drop, it's flat burst damage to finish of a low hp target. The Koreans seem to want to go back to this, if you look at pro vit dekans like BonQuiQui(he quit) I think he reached like 130-140k melee while being full vit, making his auto attacks deal most of the damage, using dffs/ffs as finishing blow. Intel dekans have the same strategy, converting magic attack to melee attack and using breath + hp drain to finish somoene off. The way the new zhen mastery works might be similar to blunt mastery from templars. Althrough I'm not sure about the exact formula and principle they used so calculate this conversion, I'll be looking into this because it might work like the old blunt mastery(I'm not sure but eager to find out).

Back in the day blunt mastery was a set buff, this was later changed to an aura like buff. To enlighten this for new players:

Old blunt mastery: This buff used to convert magic attack into melee attack in one step, meaning it checked how much magic attack you had, then checked how much intel you had and then used a certain mathematical formula to transmute a certain amount of magic attack to flat melee attack. Once the buff was casted, the formula was executed and that was that. If you used a magic % weapon before you casted blunt mastery you were able to pump up your magic attack, which resulted in a much higher melee attack after conversion. AFTER you casted blunt mastery you'd switch to a mace and then all the converted melee attack was boosted by the % said on the melee mace.

New Blunt Mastery: This blunt mastery is the one that's currently applied, It doesn't work in one step, it keeps checking how much magic attack you have while the buff is active instead of just checking once, while casted. This results in a much lower melee attack since it's not possible anymore to use a % magic weapon first to boost your magic attack. as soon as you remove the weapon and switch to melee blunt mastery will notice a decrease in magic attack and adjust the converted melee attack accordingly.

New Zhen mastery: Someone mentioned before that casting Blue defense(60% boost in vitality) on a dragon knight AFTER he casted zhen mastery resulted in a lower overall melee attack than when he'd cast zhen mastery after blue defense, this means that Dragon Knights zhen mastery seems to be a 1 step buff that only check your HP at the conversion (while casted). Meaning that if you'd party a rumir + priest and pop the all stats buffs + marea's grace and then buff zhen mastery, you'd be able to stack your melee attack a lot higher, even when you leave the party and those buffs dissapear. I've not tested this at any dekan but the same thing could be possible for Zhen Mastery from dragon sages.

[RHBW154337]

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Int Sages have been changed with the update yea, the koreans seem to have 2 things they focus on while balancing

1. Everything became self buffed so you're forced to pvp in partys
2. Melee classes (as in melee range) got a multiplier that converts the classes main stat into melee attack so they can farm/PVP with auto attacks, look at dragon knight zhen mastery (hp = melee) dragon sage zhen mastery (magic attack gets converted to melee) or dhans katar mastery which converts agi to melee attack.

Lol... Katar Mastery doesnt convert your AGI to MELEE ATTACK. It converts your AGI to CRITICAL DAMAGE BOOST. EACH Class Mastery give's their respective weapons a boost and ADDITIONAL DAMAGE based on their hp, magic, ranged, melee

[pimoh]

Lol... Katar Mastery doesnt convert your AGI to MELEE ATTACK. It converts your AGI to CRITICAL DAMAGE BOOST. EACH Class Mastery give's their respective weapons a boost and ADDITIONAL DAMAGE based on their hp, magic, ranged, melee

So you're saying while equiping a katar AGI adds to its total crit base damage? so if your agi dhan has 4000 total agi for example when critical strikes always +4000 as critical damage bonus?, is that what you implied? (disable the deadly blow first to disregard since deadly blow somewhat inflates total critical damage in %) but if we consider deadly blow that +4000 bonus crit damage from 4000 AGI will become 84K of critical damage because deadly blow boost 2000% of critical damage in lvl 7 (this is why makes Dhan so OP) + (1/4 for invenom = 21K invenom) if we disregard the base melee attack, only AGi applied to see the point of view as what your explained about?


well in that case its like an AGI DHan is no need to use melee scrolls or even ALM scrolls for pvp and he can kill anyone fast even without a scroll plus imagine when using their ulti skill lvl 7, (another 100% additional crit damage in AoE), wow then it makes PWI sales to go down because I can advanced my Agi Dhan without spending $ to buy a melee and ALM scrolls to become annoying in pvp very good PWI unlike Temps before been nerfed for example, they need first to spend to pop up scroll set which makes them pain in the ass in pvp anytime, now I see why most everyone switched to dhan classes hehehe

[AchanClub]

Lol... Katar Mastery doesnt convert your AGI to MELEE ATTACK. It converts your AGI to CRITICAL DAMAGE BOOST.

This one makes me wanna laugh, sorry I can't help it :P
Peace.. RUN*

[White Arctic Fox]

I thought you are talk about Dekan's build, why a Giant came into this topic, sorry im a littlebit confuse of what info you are refering to a person asking about this thread "WEAPON for INT DS" about? maybe just stick to the topic people.

He's a speshal kid, wants us to build vit sages, guardians, defenders, zerkers coz vit classes with HP weapons are OP... xDDDDD

[Hjinm]

He's a speshal kid, wants us to build vit sages, guardians, defenders, zerkers coz vit classes with HP weapons are OP... xDDDDD

and here a brain damaged person that suggest feather+12 with int set+14 and all lvl7 skills to newcomers.

I stated more than one time my suggestion are for pve, new comers, that can rely on something cheap while they gather better equip, ignorant fuk.

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[White Arctic Fox]

and here a brain damaged person that suggest feather+12 with int set+14 and all lvl7 skills to newcomers.

I stated more than one time my suggestion are for pve, new comers, that can rely on something cheap while they gather better equip, ignorant fuk.

If you want to grind in the new maps like sunken, that's what you gotta get. Newcommer or not, no point in telling him retarded fairytales of going full vit since that will bring him nothing.

1. You want to grind in the new maps? Prepare to donate a kidney and buy yourself maxed gears. Unless you have some powerfull friends and you can leech 24/7 since those mobs will eat you, the only way to stay alive is to build sustain HP + DD and a lot of damage and hp abso so you heal with every AOE. I bet your VIT zerk with HP weapons is doing great in sunken solo doesn't he ?

2. You want to grind in maps like upper and such? Meaning you'll want the fastest xp per time unit, going full vit (except for dragon knight) does not make you kill things fast. The mobs there are super easy and with a dragon sage on full intel build and lvl 6 impenetradable you'll get enough flat PDF and critical damage is absorbed. I've grinded in upper with characters that had 5k hp and survived just fine, all you need is AOE dmg + absorption, not vit and HP. A class that has 100% AOE auto attacks from like lvl 70 ish? why the hell would you go VIT to wait for WFFS and hope you one shot mobs every 10 ish sec? while you could be one shotting mobs with every auto attack lmao.

Just because something ''works'' doesn't mean it's the best/most efficient way to go. If you want to lvl up and not spend years and years (which is what you'll be doing with your vit berserker) you'll build and grind the way I described.