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[EaglePhoenix]

For Eagle's sake I am using the words US and WE here rather than Me or I. Just so we are clear.



Again, who says it was French? Who gives a rat's ass if you are French? I don't. Did you consider it just might be a bastardization of Mexican and ENGLISH? OMIGERD!
I'm not French. I'm not Spanish. I'm not Mexican. So if my French GRAMMAR is a little off well, EXCUUUUUUSSSSSE MEEEEEEE! Who cares except grammar nazis?

Don't like that. Tough.

That is not the issue - This is:

You and EaglePhoenix accused us of advertising a private server in these forums. I personally asked you both to prove that lie. Neither of you has. Nor do we see a retraction from either of you for spreading that blatant and unfounded LIE. You know what Libel is?

We are promoting a private server? OK What's its name and where is it? We sure as hell did not name it or place a link to it here.
Did we tell anybody to quit playing here and join us? TBH This is the last place on earth we would advertise a private server for ANY game much less Rohan.

You guys are publicly making the accusations here I am personally demanding that YOU publicly prove otherwise NOW.

Have at it boys!



Sorry it has been getting boring around here. Haven't popped in for a while so I gues it was time to shake the place up a bit

So, you are saying that "Mexican" is an actual language then? FYI, there are over 150 languages spoken in Mexico, none of which are called "Mexican". Spanish is the main language however and many are derived from that as well.
Spanish and French are Latin languages and thus have a lot in common - therefore claiming that "Vive la Revolutions" is correct because it's neither Spanish nor French but is "Mexican" instead, holds no value whatsoever.

Additionally, stating that you neither care nor can be bothered with to know something is correct - you're doing one hell of a job just to state otherwise. It's contradictory.
As such is the rest of your claims towards the private server or the name you gave to 'your/the' project.
I am also well aware what the definition of 'libel" is, but are you? Since I am, I have no issues with what I have posted and see no explicit reason why I should not have done so. I also see no issue with me posting my opinion on whether or not something should be appropriate or not.

It is true, 'you' did not post a direct link - as for its name of said project, I am sure that "your play of words" has nothing to do with that. Quite obviously. Absolutely not.

Or perhaps one could merely say it's just an extreme coincidence.

I dont really get why you guys really have to make up such a huge hassle just because of a clever pun...
It was some simple word play and does acctually have nothing to do with advertising a rohan private server nor does it have anything to do with french grammar. You know, word plays do not always have to be totaly grammatically correct.
Either way, jumping him just because of that doesnt make sense, neither does discussing about grammar.

However, this post was about the acctual iRohan facebook likes. They are freakin low, in contrast, what ish was referring to, ePvP does have way more traffic and most advertised private servers over there score more likes. Anyways, that still wasnt an advertisement, nor was PJ's post... I dont see any sentence which stats "Hey go to this and that private server".

Furthermore, stating that private servers just want to earn some money while shutting down after a month is simply false. Yes, there are some private servers which do that, but noone really plays them anymore. On the other site, there are real professional servers out there which acctually target proper changes, low prizes and overall balancement so people acctually enjoy the game again.
Coming to another point most people acctually dont see, without those proper private servers there would have been lots of systems never acctually being released on this version. To say it clearly, PWi took ideas from private servers and implemented those over here. Tho, they've implemented those in failing ways. (Best example enhanceable bossdrops) Hell, pserver dev's acctually helped PWi to fix their game... Not even considering the fact of PWi having a proper fix for templars for YEARS already, they got them from a specific (no named) source but never implemented it since, yea, templars generate their income.

Furthermore, its not their game, they only licensed it from PWi korea. Even tho they are a child corp, they still dont own the intellectual property on it. PWi acctually only does have intellectual property on the source code of client and server. Thats aswell why pservers can be taken down by DCMA issues.
However, rights on ideas or acctual content? Well, ideas are so generic, they dont own any right on those. Content (a.k.a graphics/sounds/etc), I acctually doubt the company owns any rights on them or could use them as reason for a sue. Such content is highly dependant on acctual artists and how they were acctually employed/the working contract they've signed.

The point is, they might have rights to host this game, but there is no reason why players should except PWi generating money on their backs. There is no reason to stay on a sinking ship. Rohan is like the costa concordia, if you get what i mean.
However, thats aswell not an advertisement but just a fact. It’s always hard to just turn your back on a game if you've spent money worth a luxus car on it.

Just may two cents, dont flame;

Nobody “jumped” on somebody. The linguistic part was merely mentioned as a “p.s.” and could easily have been regarded as such or, better yet, ignored. Since the need existed to insist, well – obviously it’s in my needs to insist as well.

If you don’t care that it is wrong, then you obviously don’t care if it’s right as well – so why bother insisting on it?

As for “stating that private servers just want to earn some money while shutting down after a month” – to say it with PJ’s words: “I never said that”. That aside, as you mention, there are some. The fact that they currently no longer hold much of a player base makes it only worse. It only means they already ripped people off to the extent that they left faster than on irohan – go figure.

My question then is: why would one leave a sinking ship where they have to pay as if they’re on a cruise.. for another sinking ship – that’s not even bound to much regulations, even less regulations than the one they’re already on?

To your other point of “without p-servers, things wouldn’t have been implemented” – that’s like asking: what’s first? The egg or the chicken? Would there be any p-servers if there hadn’t been an actual game?

There’s also the misconception that I am “against” p-servers in general. Which is not the case. I do have a problem with them being advertised on the original game’s forum.
They may be licensing it from PWi, but they are licensing it at least. Copyrights are hard to pinpoint down – so unless you or I are lawyers in said field – I doubt any of us can say to what extend certain content is a copyright infringement.
Which, to be honest, is none of my business.

And no, players should never be expected to grow money on their backs. I’m hardly one to claim different – I never bothered to throw more at it than 20-30 euro a month and not even on a regular basis.

As for the rest, I kindly revert back to my previous posts in regards to this.
That aside, advertisement is not defined by flashing billboards – per se.

As for flaming: I enjoy a good discussion once in a while – it’s been a while to say the least.


P.s.: i'm typing this from work between several mails - so it's not as thorough as I wanted it to be - just don't feel like waiting another 5 hours before replying - lest you feel standing awaiting the cold