Omg this noob on about "ruler weapons" dude they are very rare on isen and they only last for 2 weeks, and then they gone they are NOT perm weapons and to top it off u can only stone them with the stones they give you, and hey noob its a matter of HP, we dont have 100-120% hp on weapons here in addition to our normal attack, on top of that our DD maxes out at 57% and that assumes you get MAX rolls on all 3 forges but to do max dd you need to lose the life saving leech, but then guarders oh wait for 95% of the ppl that dont have a trans Opa yet that only 5% not nearly enough to counter the damage these mobs give. the hurt 20-30k normals and 70k crits is enoguh to wipe any one out fast. now right now most of us have a lot of hp cus its nearing end of PA season and we have commander and supreme commander badges adding 100-200k hp but come dec 11 when that goes away most of the ppl here will drop below 100k hp and will get 1-2 shot. and vit pred vit priest are u mad? vit pred gonna do no damage so its useless except for trap, vit priest cant heal for **** so obligation only, vit def well yea that is a typical build but agian an emp pet. Temp only good if its REALLY Well geared, and your also talking about the pay to win aspect, not everyone can afford to spend $100's a month on lvl 7s and patterns and ****, so keep ur **** about Isen to yourself as u obviouly dont play here and have 0 idea on the actual state of play.