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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixture View Post
    "Damage: The self-buffed damage of Templars increased slightly but their attack speed became slightly (s)lower" the word slightly is an understatement, from 30% -> 12% att speed is not slightly in my opinion.

    I appreciate your efforts to increase self-buffed dmg output because it was ridiculously low. But i noticed you have also reduced the effectiveness of regular attacks by reducing the Att Speed considerably. Why? I understand your reasons for nerf-ing blunt dmg by 10% (at lvl 7) since you buffed stats but please justify why you reduced the Att Speed by that much percentage. I am not asking for change, just justification so i understand. Thank you.
    I can't be sure why it was done but I think the balance patches are designed for endgame players/endgame gear. which leads me to the following conclusion:

    Imagine having:
    (Self buffed)
    trans upg club with 50% attackspeed
    trans stone 38% attackspeed
    opaniel guarder 15% attackspeed
    silva pet 30% attackspeed

    In Party:
    (party buffs from priest/rumir grant attackspeed too or the savage totem)

    - Now imagine a templar on max gear etc with dd pen can do 30-40k regular hits self buffed (in party this can go up to 80-100k damage a hit) and it's able to spew out hits at like what 350-380 attackspeed or so self buffed and even faster in party? which means you attack at nearly 3 times a second which means you have a damage output of 3 times 35k is about a 100k damage a second. slightly slower attackspeed was probably introduced to lower this DPS (damage per second)

    - Templar's AOE attacks became much stronger since the chance for them to AOE became 100% instead of 50%, which means surrounding targets, but also their effects such as euphoria and group euphoria will always trigger on AOE hits (this effects healing is exponentially increased with the amount of targets hit). slightly slower attackspeed was probably introduced to counter this

    If you would ask me, templar should have a 0% boost in attackspeed on their blunt mastery since they get plenty of boosts and their weapon is already ''fast''. Not sure if you can follow my reasoning and not sure if this is the reason they decreased the attackspeed but it does make sense, at least it does so to me.
    Last edited by White Arctic Fox; 08-01-2019 at 04:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Arctic Fox View Post
    I can't be sure why it was done but I think the balance patches are designed for endgame players/endgame gear. which leads me to the following conclusion:

    Imagine having:
    (Self buffed)
    trans upg club with 50% attackspeed
    trans stone 38% attackspeed
    opaniel guarder 15% attackspeed
    silva pet 30% attackspeed

    In Party:
    (party buffs from priest/rumir grant attackspeed too or the savage totem)

    - Now imagine a templar on max gear etc with dd pen can do 30-40k regular hits self buffed (in party this can go up to 80-100k damage a hit) and it's able to spew out hits at like what 350-380 attackspeed or so self buffed and even faster in party? which means you attack at nearly 3 times a second which means you have a damage output of 3 times 35k is about a 100k damage a second. slightly slower attackspeed was probably introduced to lower this DPS (damage per second)

    - Templar's AOE attacks became much stronger since the chance for them to AOE became 100% instead of 50%, which means surrounding targets, but also their effects such as euphoria and group euphoria will always trigger on AOE hits (this effects healing is exponentially increased with the amount of targets hit). slightly slower attackspeed was probably introduced to counter this

    If you would ask me, templar should have a 0% boost in attackspeed on their blunt mastery since they get plenty of boosts and their weapon is already ''fast''. Not sure if you can follow my reasoning and not sure if this is the reason they decreased the attackspeed but it does make sense, at least it does so to me.

    Thanks for the reply. at least there is a reply loool.

    No offence intended but your possible reasons are somewhat irrelevant because most of them are not EXCLUSIVE to the Templar class.
    For example, you mentioned:

    trans upg club with 50% attackspeed
    trans stone 38% attackspeed
    opaniel guarder 15% attackspeed
    silva pet 30% attackspeed

    -- every class can have upg some better than others. not Exclusive to temp so should not be used to grade/weight/judge a class.

    and then you mentioned this:
    In Party:
    (party buffs from priest/rumir grant attackspeed too or the savage totem)

    Yes how a class performs under party is relevant to some extent but the main reason this cant be used as a possible reason is because, i could then say the Dhan class perform so much better solo compared to temp but temp perform so much better in a party compared to dhan. the point is all class have their own ups and downs when it comes to party. This makes it very irrelevant to why the att speed was considerable reduced. Dont forget, i wouldnt be here if lets say the att speed was made 20%, just here to find some answers why its 12% at lvl 7.... disgusting -____-

    - Templar's AOE attacks became much stronger since the chance for them to AOE became 100% instead of 50%, which means surrounding targets, but also their effects such as euphoria and group euphoria will always trigger on AOE hits (this effects healing is exponentially increased with the amount of targets hit). slightly slower attackspeed was probably introduced to counter this

    Probably yes, but makes no sense because if you look at the club speed, its FAST, not VERY Fast, so basically what they telling me is that only 12% att speed separates Templars from lets say Dhan (because i cant think of any other char who dont have att speed boost lol) who also have VERY Fast wep speed with 100% AOE. see what i mean? Dhans are special based damagers and templars are regular based. Respect it. All class are not the same.

    If you would ask me, templar should have a 0% boost in attackspeed on their blunt mastery since they get plenty of boosts and their weapon is already ''fast''. Not sure if you can follow my reasoning and not sure if this is the reason they decreased the attackspeed but it does make sense, at least it does so to me.[/B]

    I wont ask you because most of your points are compared to things that other class already benefit from, actually all of your points. Nothing exclusing to Temps. Its even more flawed that you think att speed on blunt should be 0% and then result to wep speed and plenty of boosts, boost of which again other char benefit from! zzzzz

    - Now imagine a templar on max gear etc with dd pen can do 30-40k regular hits self buffed (in party this can go up to 80-100k damage a hit) and it's able to spew out hits at like what 350-380 attackspeed or so self buffed and even faster in party? which means you attack at nearly 3 times a second which means you have a damage output of 3 times 35k is about a 100k damage a second. slightly slower attackspeed was probably introduced to lower this DPS (damage per second)

    I have imagined... Rohan has changed over the years and we probably will get to this change in the future ... back in the day the max hp was <= 100k now ppl can round around with 1M hp. Yes i can imagine. You Salve are hitting over 40k because of good gears and pen , and dhan can even get 60k without inven with nice gears, pen and scrolls. Wake up and stop trying to think negative towards other att classes . There is nothing wrong with Templars hitting 30k if they work hard towards good gears and dd pen on a dd set pvp set oppi. In fact this goes to all att class, if you have good gears you should do good dmg, of course according to their strength and weakness. this isnt a free for all barn lolol

    In any case thanks for your reply Salve, now i go enjoy the Sun. I am just glad they didnt completely F*** up Templars..... just like walkingdeadnyc said. (rohan misses you!)
    Last edited by Mixture; 08-03-2019 at 04:04 AM.

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