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    Ur not wrong about the PW moneymilking that rohan has Always been doing and will Always do but honestly thats not something you can change (if you can change anything at all) its ingame related stuff and not their main economical strategy. The example you used was disrespectful and also pointless. You come off as a frust thats jaleous of the big guilds. It's like being mad at your neighbour for making alot of money while you can barerly afford your monthly needs, well suck it up thats life. There will Always be big guilds, one will replace another and so on. Maybe the system behind this is bad and the RMT is bad but its plain stupid to take one individual out and try to toast him on the forum(even tho it's for your points purpose). Also being mad over this whole thing is just silly because this is a principle you find back everywhere, not just in rohan.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by snipers334 View Post
    Ur not wrong about the PW moneymilking that rohan has Always been doing and will Always do but honestly thats not something you can change (if you can change anything at all) its ingame related stuff and not their main economical strategy. The example you used was disrespectful and also pointless. You come off as a frust thats jaleous of the big guilds. It's like being mad at your neighbour for making alot of money while you can barerly afford your monthly needs, well suck it up thats life. There will Always be big guilds, one will replace another and so on. Maybe the system behind this is bad and the RMT is bad but its plain stupid to take one individual out and try to toast him on the forum(even tho it's for your points purpose). Also being mad over this whole thing is just silly because this is a principle you find back everywhere, not just in rohan.....
    Also you wrong again, Im not jelly of them and ur exemple just prooves u wrong as this simple statement :
    my neighbour, if he make money its by himself & eventually his wife for buy things for himself
    in this game big guild destroy the economy cause only one or a small group (the core of it) get the fruit of all the members works, wich is completelly retarded as they make $ of it and some of them get screwed paying all for only some get the rewards and attribute the victory to himself and trash talk to the others when they really just did nothing than push the pick button
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylfaen View Post
    Also you wrong again, Im not jelly of them and ur exemple just prooves u wrong as this simple statement :
    my neighbour, if he make money its by himself & eventually his wife for buy things for himself
    in this game big guild destroy the economy cause only one or a small group (the core of it) get the fruit of all the members works, wich is completelly retarded as they make $ of it and some of them get screwed paying all for only some get the rewards and attribute the victory to himself and trash talk to the others when they really just did nothing than push the pick button
    Find a big guild(scapegoat) ----> blame the scapegoat -------> feel releaved (doesn't solve anything tho but guess you can't do more than that)

    You are just jumping conclusions and your english is seriously terrible so it's hard to follow up. You're just a frustrated kid. I'm not going to repeat myself again (I've stated the things I wanted to say, in my previous posts). You have fun going around in this little vicious circle of yours in which you get nowhere, in which you give no usable solutions and in which you violated the privacy of another person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snipers334 View Post
    Find a big guild(scapegoat) ----> blame the scapegoat -------> feel releaved (doesn't solve anything tho but guess you can't do more than that)

    You are just jumping conclusions and your english is seriously terrible so it's hard to follow up. You're just a frustrated kid. I'm not going to repeat myself again (I've stated the things I wanted to say, in my previous posts). You have fun going around in this little vicious circle of yours in which you get nowhere, in which you give no usable solutions and in which you violated the privacy of another person.
    oh yea ? and the way you defend them means ur one of them and do same things as them ?
    so plz your not arrogant or sarcastic, youre just an hypocrit : )))))

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    @bloodybladez3
    We already know you hate pure atk but i think its easier to fix this rather than changing drops and adding npc quests and items. Like I've posted some times already copy paste Rumirs Arendal Mastery to Temps Blunt Mastery Change the Psy% to Int% and the Pure Magic to Pure Melee output on the formula, transfer the Int to Accuracy value and completely eradicate the Int multiplier from BM. You just nerfed Temps to compete with everyone else. Now just look at all the skills Templars have that can be boosted back on how they where in the past example (Reflect to 45sec). Check damage output of Vit DKs, Str Dhans, Noir and calculate how much of a nerf they need on their skills.
    Done you just fixed 90% of the game. GJ

    All Stat and All Atk benefit everyone like Agi Dhans get a little pure melee, Wizards get a little pure Magic, Dex Guards get a little pure melee and so on. But Templars get 2x and after all the items and scrolls it becomes 10x. That's where the main problem is.

    @The other guys fighting
    Dude we are in the internet you know its like fighting with a wall o.o
    Still keep it up I'm enjoying this
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBNXD View Post
    @bloodybladez3
    We already know you hate pure atk but i think its easier to fix this rather than changing drops and adding npc quests and items. Like I've posted some times already copy paste Rumirs Arendal Mastery to Temps Blunt Mastery Change the Psy% to Int% and the Pure Magic to Pure Melee output on the formula, transfer the Int to Accuracy value and completely eradicate the Int multiplier from BM. You just nerfed Temps to compete with everyone else. Now just look at all the skills Templars have that can be boosted back on how they where in the past example (Reflect to 45sec). Check damage output of Vit DKs, Str Dhans, Noir and calculate how much of a nerf they need on their skills.
    Done you just fixed 90% of the game. GJ

    All Stat and All Atk benefit everyone like Agi Dhans get a little pure melee, Wizards get a little pure Magic, Dex Guards get a little pure melee and so on. But Templars get 2x and after all the items and scrolls it becomes 10x. That's where the main problem is.

    @The other guys fighting
    Dude we are in the internet you know its like fighting with a wall o.o
    Still keep it up I'm enjoying this
    The fix you suggest seems pretty reaseonable and it won't result in a huge player quitting spree +1

    @ the fighting, I rather enjoy it to bash on people if they talk bullsh1t so that makes 2 of us that enjoy it xD. An yea I know its utterly pointless because most people that post/or say stuff like that are ignorant and mostly dumb as well so they'll not change one single bit but still, its funny to speculate :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBNXD View Post
    @bloodybladez3
    We already know you hate pure atk but i think its easier to fix this rather than changing drops and adding npc quests and items. Like I've posted some times already copy paste Rumirs Arendal Mastery to Temps Blunt Mastery Change the Psy% to Int% and the Pure Magic to Pure Melee output on the formula, transfer the Int to Accuracy value and completely eradicate the Int multiplier from BM. You just nerfed Temps to compete with everyone else. Now just look at all the skills Templars have that can be boosted back on how they where in the past example (Reflect to 45sec). Check damage output of Vit DKs, Str Dhans, Noir and calculate how much of a nerf they need on their skills.
    Done you just fixed 90% of the game. GJ

    All Stat and All Atk benefit everyone like Agi Dhans get a little pure melee, Wizards get a little pure Magic, Dex Guards get a little pure melee and so on. But Templars get 2x and after all the items and scrolls it becomes 10x. That's where the main problem is.

    @The other guys fighting
    Dude we are in the internet you know its like fighting with a wall o.o
    Still keep it up I'm enjoying this
    I agree with you about BM. The Int Divisor needs to go. As for the Attack, it needs to go also. Idk if you played the original Renaissance Rohan Pserver, but it had a LOT of pure Attack. Everybody had at least 750-1k or more, and let me tell you, if you were not an Attack build, then the Attack didn't help you at all. The strongest Agi Dhans would only do minimums on me most of the time, they might have done 150-200, but that's it. Keep in mind that I was playing an Int Wizard, the squishiest character in the entire game. If you can't get past mimimum damage, then the Attack won't really do much for you. On a weak class like an Agi Dhan, it might boost your damage by 200 on the squishiest people, but if you're playing a full Str Dhan, that attack can easily boost your reg hit damage by 500, 600, 700, etc. What you ended up with was Str Dhans who crit harder than Agi Dhans without skills. That is not an equal boost. People were not meant to have this much Pure Attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodybladez3 View Post
    I agree with you about BM. The Int Divisor needs to go. As for the Attack, it needs to go also. Idk if you played the original Renaissance Rohan Pserver, but it had a LOT of pure Attack. Everybody had at least 750-1k or more, and let me tell you, if you were not an Attack build, then the Attack didn't help you at all. The strongest Agi Dhans would only do minimums on me most of the time, they might have done 150-200, but that's it. Keep in mind that I was playing an Int Wizard, the squishiest character in the entire game. If you can't get past mimimum damage, then the Attack won't really do much for you. On a weak class like an Agi Dhan, it might boost your damage by 200 on the squishiest people, but if you're playing a full Str Dhan, that attack can easily boost your reg hit damage by 500, 600, 700, etc. What you ended up with was Str Dhans who crit harder than Agi Dhans without skills. That is not an equal boost. People were not meant to have this much Pure Attack.
    I did checked out Renn and played LacieLane as a Str Warlock there was a huge Epic fail but i was still on the testing builds for my own Warlock build. If i do remember correctly there was this boss drops with a lot of Def on them that a DS got to Negative PDF if im not wrong SexMachine I think he was called.

    A solution to the Pure atk problem could be adding all def/ Pure def on all these accs and items with pure atk like a way to counter it. This will give Psy, Agi, Dex builds the defense they need but still give to much defense to the Vit builds...
    ...I need a little more time thinking. Maybe adding the same amount of pure def vs pure atk on the itmes could balance out the amount of damage across the board. This pure atk thing would prob be best removing it as you say but the issue will be removing it -.-
    So annoying thinking on possible fixes.
    Am using as an example Agi dhan vs Str dhan but still their fighting styles and strategies are different. You can never go full Rambo on an Agi Dhan while the Str Dhan can take some damage while killing its prey :l
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBNXD View Post
    I did checked out Renn and played LacieLane as a Str Warlock there was a huge Epic fail but i was still on the testing builds for my own Warlock build. If i do remember correctly there was this boss drops with a lot of Def on them that a DS got to Negative PDF if im not wrong SexMachine I think he was called.

    A solution to the Pure atk problem could be adding all def/ Pure def on all these accs and items with pure atk like a way to counter it. This will give Psy, Agi, Dex builds the defense they need but still give to much defense to the Vit builds...
    ...I need a little more time thinking. Maybe adding the same amount of pure def vs pure atk on the itmes could balance out the amount of damage across the board. This pure atk thing would prob be best removing it as you say but the issue will be removing it -.-
    So annoying thinking on possible fixes.
    Am using as an example Agi dhan vs Str dhan but still their fighting styles and strategies are different. You can never go full Rambo on an Agi Dhan while the Str Dhan can take some damage while killing its prey :l
    That Dekan was most likely using an Armor Defense Zhen. He already has a lot of Pd to begin with by being full Vit, but it also boosts the PD you get from buffs and possibly scrolls. He can't have DD though, so he'd end up dying even faster than before with the AD weapon. Also, Attack is stronger than Defense. 1000 PD is not equal to 1000 Melee or Ranged Attack. This is why as people level up and get higher tier weapons and armor, they start hitting harder on each other, but the time to kill stays somewhat balanced because max HP increases as well. People these days would literally need thousands of points of Pure Defensefor things to balance out. This just complicates things even more, which is why its better to just remove the Attack.

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