R.O.H.A.N. Facebook Likes

[Yurneroo]

People got more critical towards private servers, sure - though one can only wonder how that comes. Perhaps because the first big promise turned out to be one big disappointment and to be exactly the counterpart of what it wanted to conquer: corruption and rip-offs, aside of improving general gameplay of course.

1. I acctually dont bother with how it came or what happened since im simply not involved with it. I admit there were lots of private servers just wanting to do fast and easy money. However, im more interested in the acctual result, namely players being more critical towards random servers which pop out of nowhere and go like the same way. Therefore, nowadays money grabbing servers simply dont work anymore, which is more than fine. Even tho they still exists from time to time, they dont work out.

2. If you mean zRohan/XorRohan by that, I've gotta say I've enjoyed the time it was up. It was more fun than all the years I've been spending on iRohan, regardless of the fast shutdown of course. Still, it was fun all over.

The people developing a game might not have money as their greatest motivation - the ones running the game/servers, however, usually do. I have yet to see one that is different. Is this one it? Who's to tell? The ones running it this time? That's hardly an objective answer.
The first rohan server with purely players content at heart? Possible, but not probable.

Well, believe it or not but its true. Previous servers were simply hosted by people not involved with development at all or at least ones which were just money hungry. We are not since we are all developers and we acctually want to do a change in order to provide the best experience possible. Developers which always dreamed about a professional balanced server/game wont go down the PWi path.

Like I said before, a private server isn't bad per se - the idea's are usually good since it builds from what already existed. It's always easier to improve something than to build something up from scratch. Not to mention that, over the course of several years since OBT, there have surfaced enough other mmo's from which certain idea's can be integrated. The only issue here is that, whereas the idea's are good, the management usually isn't. Which brings us back to iRohan or Rohan in general.

Agreed.

But you're saying that the comparison of the facebook likes, followed by a post which contained a link to said forums was not there to differentiate this server with private servers nor that the need exists to inform people in order to gain more viewers (and thus possibly clients) and, by pointing out the serious lack of facebook-likes on iRohan and the above comments do not hold any intent to persuade people to go for (actual free to play) private servers in
preference to the 'heavily pay-to-win, grow money on your backs' kind and to specifically induce on this certain aspect of it?

Im not seeing it as advertisement, those were simply troll posts. Why aint it advertisement? Simple, there is no audience over here to speak to. There wont be players turning their back on iRohan just to join a private server because some pun or backlink to a forum section which generates more traffic than PWi's facebook. After all the people around here just sank way to much money into this game to just leave it.
Take it as troll posts.

[EaglePhoenix]

Im not seeing it as advertisement, those were simply troll posts. Why aint it advertisement? Simple, there is no audience over here to speak to. There wont be players turning their back on iRohan just to join a private server because some pun or backlink to a forum section which generates more traffic than PWi's facebook. After all the people around here just sank way to much money into this game to just leave it.
Take it as troll posts.

The reason I'm disagreeing with this is because there are still over 100 people browsing these forums on a daily basis. At the Isen -start, that audience reached over 200 people. Granted, not all of them play rohan (e.g.: Seal Online) and some of them are (google)bots - deducting those, still leaves you a 'fair' amount of possible viewers.
That there really won't be any current players turning their backs on this is stretching it quite far. If, so to speak, I decide right here to quit this and join this private-server once it opens, since I can now easily track its progress through said link.. then this whole assumption just become moot.

There are, indeed, people who've spent enormous amounts of money, albeit irresponsible. Though, I'm quite certain there are also the ones who never did. Taking me as an example, I've played for a very long time - but never invested all that much. Sure, if you count it all up through the course of the years, it might get past the 3-400 dollars - but given the timespan, that's hardly a lot. Some people spent that on a monthly or bi-weekly basis.
But just look at Jin - countless of those BIG moneyspenders - and it is now deserted. Why did some even get back on Isen or why did they ever leave Jin to begin with? Considering their expenses over there?

I'm from the opinion that the least you 'root' yourself into something - the more fun it gives you as you don't feel 'forced' to continue what you are doing. This, of course, doesn't go for all things in life but imho suits well for mmorpg's.

One could regard me as a special person - or with special needs if one insists - but I'm fairly certain that I'm not THAT unique that I'm the sole person (still) around, who hasn't spent all that much.

[PenguinJoe]

I don't 'have' to stay anywhere, moreover - I hadn't logged for about 1.5y and hadn't actually 'played' for almost 2 years before Isen, nor did I actually post on the forums for several months and on rare occasions, besides.

Being in my shoes isn't all bad though, at least I'm still potent - it makes up for all your aforementioned. For someone that's retired and does nothing else but sitting behind a desk from sunrise till dawn (old people generally need less sleep, the older they get) - talking about the lack of 'life' is quite the irony.

Those long periods in between your logging, is it really because you can't be bothered or is it in between changing diapers?

Sad little man? Here you are, retired - old but hanging around with the youngsters. Does it keep you young? Talking about having a foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel..

What is more to prove than what already has been said.


This is as much fun to me as it is to you. One could only wonder who exactly you're trying to convince this is actually fun to you? Us or yourself?

Considering those 10k+ posts, one can only assume I actually do enjoy this. One would be daft to go on like this for over 10k posts without actually enjoying it. That'd be sad, indeed.


See, I can do this too. It's even easier than coming up with some actual arguments - probably also the reason why so many people do it, anyway.
P.s.: your definition of stalking is way off - but then again, we both know how well you do with grammar and stuff.

That the best you got? It is pretty lame when all you can do is make age jokes to cover your insecurity and the fact that you can't prove your claims.

Skate around the issue all you want. You still haven't proven squat.

Is it that guy Ishtaria?

Yeah that's one of Ish's alter egos

If he is looking and he is a vice-ceo of the playwith interactive overseas (in korea) he better spend his time here and read our "prays" to balance this game out and increase the population instead on epvp with pservers.

Playwith Interactive (PlayWithi / PWi) is an American subsidiary of Playwith Korea based in California. Steve is COO of PWi. PWi is a licensee of YNK Korea's R.O.H.A.N. Used to be a wholly owned subsidiary, but now they are a separate entity and host several games produced by a number of publishers.

While PWi can configure the game and make incremental changes to it, they can't fix bugs. For bug fixes they depend on YNK for bug fixes and base code changes. They just don't have the expertise or source-level access to make real game changes.

These days Mr. Lee is more interested in removing competition that might lure his players away. So he trolls places like epvpers and other sites looking for new private servers opening and sending out DMCA takedown requests to their hosts.

[carnettsc]

Playwith Interactive (PlayWithi / PWi) is an American subsidiary of Playwith Korea based in California. Steve is COO of PWi. PWi is a licensee of YNK Korea's R.O.H.A.N. Used to be a wholly owned subsidiary, but now they are a separate entity and host several games produced by a number of publishers.

While PWi can configure the game and make incremental changes to it, they can't fix bugs. For bug fixes they depend on YNK for bug fixes and base code changes. They just don't have the expertise or source-level access to make real game changes.

These days Mr. Lee is more interested in removing competition that might lure his players away. So he trolls places like epvpers and other sites looking for new private servers opening and sending out DMCA takedown requests to their hosts.

Does it mean if PWi had devs they could fix bugs/could rewrite sourcecode/rewrite or change blunt mastery formula without approval from Korea ? I highly doubt.

[Kraszer]

Playwith Interactive (PlayWithi / PWi) is an American subsidiary of Playwith Korea based in California. Steve is COO of PWi. PWi is a licensee of YNK Korea's R.O.H.A.N. Used to be a wholly owned subsidiary, but now they are a separate entity and host several games produced by a number of publishers.

While PWi can configure the game and make incremental changes to it, they can't fix bugs. For bug fixes they depend on YNK for bug fixes and base code changes. They just don't have the expertise or source-level access to make real game changes.

Like you said pwi in America is a susidiary of those in Korea, but in difference that Koreans have full right to it and only they can fix anything, if Steve is COO of PWi that it means he is a translator and can talk with them to make this game better. Still license for PWi here is one thing, fixing bugs is another, the license is only given prolly to host the games or make contracts with other hosters which may host as well, like PH rohan.

These days Mr. Lee is more interested in removing competition that might lure his players away. So he trolls places like epvpers and other sites looking for new private servers opening and sending out DMCA takedown requests to their hosts.

Private server means one, that his "mother" (main game) sucks so badly that players need to configure the game and make it more and fair balance. But still instead of sending those DMCA of stolen source of the game code they should fix their main game here, so the privates could stop one day.

[PenguinJoe]

Private server means one, that his "mother" (main game) sucks so badly that players need to configure the game and make it more and fair balance. But still instead of sending those DMCA of stolen source of the game code they should fix their main game here, so the privates could stop one day.

Very true. If PWi's server were actually good and satisfying to most of its players, people would not feel the need to look elsewhere.
Private servers thrive on dissatisfied players that leave here disgusted. If players were satisfied here, private servers would die off because nobody would want to leave.
It takes a lot more than putting out a 'wiped' server with the same load of overpriced, overpowered goods and unbalanced skill crap.

When players cry that they can't play because the overpowered classes are wiping up the board with them, what does PWi do? Put out more overpowered crap and unbalance things even further.

Players don't like that and if the management here would only take the time to look at what they did in the past, read the forums and look at the player base after those changes they would see what works and what doesn't. Unfortunately the selling of that overpowered crap is what keeps this game alive and as long as that happens, things won't change.

[PenguinJoe]

rofl, owned. watch out though, that kid will endlessly stalk you at an attempted sarcastic talk and troll hating at a 3th grade style.

Lol yeah, I know.
No worries if this kid wants to stalk me, he has a pretty wide Internet he's gonna have to do it in. I only pop in here once every few months -- if that. And every time I do, there he is jumping on any post I make with his grammar bible

Sometimes it is fun to shake his tree & see what falls out once in a while.

[Bledo]

The chicken came first !! Just think about it, what if the nature once had chickens which were so young then grown up and couldn't adapt with the environment around them that they had to put their next chickens in eggs. The egg came first? Then why there is an egg in the first place, you aren't supposed to think which came first, you are supposed to think what is the use OF THAT EGG.

[carnettsc]

The chicken came first !! Just think about it, what if the nature once had chickens which were so young then grown up and couldn't adapt with the environment around them that they had to put their next chickens in eggs. The egg came first? Then why there is an egg in the first place, you aren't supposed to think which came first, you are supposed to think what is the use OF THAT EGG.

Nope.







































Darwin.

[PenguinJoe]