Jainus & isen server merge? Yes or no?

[sunnyangel]

Its the fact that you can't even farm a worthwhile weapon that does it for me. Jainus server is pointless because you suck balls with no upgrade, and Isen was dead on arrival because they went out of their way to make glacials suck so everyone used craft weapons and constantly paid for stones...meanwhile...the whole game is a giant ****ing farmfest. They want me to go on and farm endlessly for hours...but...they don't want me to pick up anything good while I'm doing it lol. If they do anything with Isen they should focus on making it a farm/forge server so we have something different instead of merging into Jainus that is going to end up being a net loss for them, just like it was when they killed Jin that was the most farming oriented server we had.

im pretty sure u can go farm onyx weapon/armor on isen lol and honestly people hate on upgrades but they were one of the greatest things to happen to the game.

[White Arctic Fox]

im pretty sure u can go farm onyx weapon/armor on isen lol and honestly people hate on upgrades but they were one of the greatest things to happen to the game.

Upgrades ruined the game, back when epics released half the game quit (just look at the company statistics lmao) and farming became useless for a long time. It ruined the game economy, made the game more P2W and created a huge power imbalance.

This being said, looking at how the game is now, upgrades are part of the game and should remain part of it, the best server is jainus by far.

[sunnyangel]

Upgrades ruined the game, back when epics released half the game quit (just look at the company statistics lmao) and farming became useless for a long time. It ruined the game economy, made the game more P2W and created a huge power imbalance.

This being said, looking at how the game is now, upgrades are part of the game and should remain part of it, the best server is jainus by far.

Epics were the mistake but upgraded weapons were a great solution. Having said that the whole non epic/upg pvp thing was overrated as ****.

[RBNXD]

The only thing upgrades did was give you 1 weapon all solition where in the past we had diferent weapons for diferent situatiins :l
They are a needed evil now but male the game meh so so could be harder without them.

[PenguinJoe]

im pretty sure u can go farm onyx weapon/armor on isen lol and honestly people hate on upgrades but they were one of the greatest things to happen to the game.

I don't think I could disagree with a statement more than I disagree with this one.

YNKI, and perpetuated by PlayWithI, completely f**ked this game when they sold anything in their market that affected your basic stats. I'm not limiting this to upgrades here, but also anything that increases your characters stats like scrolls, tokens, talismans and pets. That was the primary mistake. It is all well and good that you can kill bosses and forge/craft weapons/armor/accessories in-game, but when they started selling performance enhancing virtual products in their IM, they opened the door for imbalance and ruin. Wile the lesser power-ups were available at the beginning of this game, the upgrades and epics were simply the ultimate clusterf*** for this game to the poinbt that if you don't have opne, you might as well stop playing because you are NOT going to have a lot of fun.

This is of course crying over spilled milk because there is no magical time machine that will take us back to the Spring of 2008 so we can start over without this mess in place.

If you take a look around, almost all of the more popular games I have seen do not sell powerups in their stores. All you can really get are things like experience boosters, mounts and cosmetic stuff that really doesn't affect whether you will win or lose in a pvp war because you have deep pockets.

[EaglePhoenix]

Might I just chime in that it was the crafting system what broke the game further down?
Classes have never been balanced and many skills lacked a lot of thought or weren't worked out, bugged, you name it. The crafting system exponentially inflated those imbalances to the point of ridicule.

But you know how we humans are; regardless of the outcome, we will still invest in items if it makes us marginally stronger than our opponent. It does not matter if it breaks down the game further, as long as we are on the n°1 pedestal.
Those who cannot follow up due to the lack of funds, time or both just end up quiting. Which is exactly what happened.

As the population already was twindling due to the abovementioned, YNKi released the Epics for the ultimate moneygrab.
You cannot withold that their marketing thought that well out. Let's face it: you have an MMORPG which lasts a couple years. In those few years you need to make a good enough revenue to get out of your overall expenses, have some send over to Switzerland and keep some leftovers for new investments in future games.

When you have made your money and the game is already few years in; there is no "long term" thinking anymore. There's just the short term "make-as-much-money-as-we-can.gif".
Releasing the epics was just that - and people fell for it.

Those who didn't, just quit altogether.

Now, with the population being reduced to an absolute minority and the adamant stance on server-rollbacks, releasing upgrades was all they could do.
Unfortunately, as is usually the case with anything YNKi or PWi executes, this too wasn't well thought out.

Not only did they neglect any "Epic" buyer, but just as with the Epic sale they also neglected any person who could not buy in time.
This, again, didn't have any positive impact on the game population. The timeframe between epic and upgrade sale was way too long (this of course for purely economical reasons, but this does not improve gameplay at all). People do not have that patience.

So, they just stepped on the toes of any free player (regardless of what you think, you need these players)
They just stepped on the toes of any casual spender.
They just stepped on the toes of any actual spender (how many Epic buyers didn't quit on the release of upgr, and letting their epics rot in their treasuries).

They just made the game unaccessable for anyone that didn't or won't heavily invest.

But hey, bless the upgrades.
It "only" ruined farming, tactics and economics.

Anyway, you can be naive once, maybe twice. A third time is really stretching it, but seriously if you think anyone is still falling for their trap after Isen. I challenge any GM to come on here and say without blinking and the least bit of shame, telling us that Isen was not the purest of moneygrabs this game has ever seen and that's including any and all epic and upgrade sale.

Let's admit though, on the course we are on now: yes, upgrades are the necessary evil.
Why? Because it's still cheaper than having to socket your whole fk'n armor, weapon and whatnotelse every damn week or month with breakable IM stones.

Let's vote for 100% DD again, shall we?

[PenguinJoe]

Let's admit though, on the course we are on now: yes, upgrades are the necessary evil.
Why? Because it's still cheaper than having to socket your whole fk'n armor, weapon and whatnotelse every damn week or month with breakable IM stones.

Let's vote for 100% DD again, shall we?

100% DD (or even 90%-80%-70% whatever the new cap is) is pointless these days. Don't forget to buy your stones so you can socket them into your transcended weapon (which btw makes Jainus look awful Isen-ish)

[sunnyangel]

The transcended weapon has its own spirit stones that drop in the dungeon so its not nearly as bad as isen stuff.


Also new PVP armor cant wait for that ****!


Anyways I stand by what I said ive been here forever and while epics/upgs were poorly implemented the quality of pvp compensated for it.


Most fun ive had in this game has been working together with great minds to win pvps compared to the monkey pvp from the days of old.

[PenguinJoe]

monkey pvp is way more fun.

ain't nothing like flinging poo at your enemy to defeat him. Such a hoot!

[u3podcku]

game gets soo complicated... here must have master degree to play that new patch