Dekan discussion

[AchanClub]

Also, str sages were good for farming as well. I've been str all the way, regardless of the whole VIT bandwagon.

yep true, curently I'm a str sage and kill bunch of mobs quite fast with 7 splitter and zhen counter skill, yet WFFS still does 1 hit in Ash, so I'm happy with str

[White Arctic Fox]

STR sage is nice but scout/temp/rumir farms faster(scout) and temp/rumir is tanky enough to go to WH etc. Although it's nice STR sage gets their AOE on a low lvl (56 i think) so they lvl up easy.

[EaglePhoenix]

STR sage is nice but scout/temp/rumir farms faster(scout) and temp/rumir is tanky enough to go to WH etc. Although it's nice STR sage gets their AOE on a low lvl (56 i think) so they lvl up easy.

Temp shouldn't even have any aoe to speak off (who the fuck thought that was a good idea? Also temp 1xx+ comparing to farming below 1xx does not hold merit. No temp farms faster without the aoeing, unless your str sage is complete garbage.
You know what is funny? That people do not even mention a PSY WIZARD as a farming class. Anybody actually still remembers it has a 3 SEC aoe? How is that for farming? Oh exactly, everybody is stuck into VIT-mindset. It also doesn't need an IM and buffs are actually just a bonus if you know how to use AD. Can get some? Great. Can't get some? Who cares, still good.

Scout only becomes viable at level 56 and having unlocked at least 3 AOE's (thanks to the long CD's), but it can't tank for shit unless you IM or overgear it.

For some reason PWi figured Trinity classes can skip that 'issue', by immediately granting them access to the mid levels, geared and all.

Str sage doesn't need any buffs either. Str buffs are great, but it's not like that little extra inflated melee will actually matter.. this class can get one of the highest melee - unfortunately YNK / PWi do not know how to work these inflated/pure stats.
If purely for farming aka hunterkitting, it's pretty great as you do not need any buffs either (ty AD) - as long as your HK doesn't break down on you.

Oh wait, it does - it's made by PWi. Here I thought 'made in China' had a bad aftertaste, guess again.



Btw, a dekan's aoe is already located in the first skilltree...

[RBNXD]

Temp shouldn't even have any aoe to speak off (who the fuck thought that was a good idea? Also temp 1xx+ comparing to farming below 1xx does not hold merit. No temp farms faster without the aoeing, unless your str sage is complete garbage.
You know what is funny? That people do not even mention a PSY WIZARD as a farming class. Anybody actually still remembers it has a 3 SEC aoe? How is that for farming? Oh exactly, everybody is stuck into VIT-mindset. It also doesn't need an IM and buffs are actually just a bonus if you know how to use AD. Can get some? Great. Can't get some? Who cares, still good.

Scout only becomes viable at level 56 and having unlocked at least 3 AOE's (thanks to the long CD's), but it can't tank for shit unless you IM or overgear it.

For some reason PWi figured Trinity classes can skip that 'issue', by immediately granting them access to the mid levels, geared and all.

Str sage doesn't need any buffs either. Str buffs are great, but it's not like that little extra inflated melee will actually matter.. this class can get one of the highest melee - unfortunately YNK / PWi do not know how to work these inflated/pure stats.
If purely for farming aka hunterkitting, it's pretty great as you do not need any buffs either (ty AD) - as long as your HK doesn't break down on you.

Oh wait, it does - it's made by PWi. Here I thought 'made in China' had a bad aftertaste, guess again.



Btw, a dekan's aoe is already located in the first skilltree...

Completely Agree

Temps Aoe... ...damn son because hitting hard wasn't enough.
Psy wizz aren't even mentioned anywhere since everyone started to go full vit QQ(I love wizz btw).
Scouts stupid long Aoes cooldown. That is why i prefer Scatter Shot at lvl5x rather than 111-115
Str Sage/DKs stupid inflated melee(Great but useless in pvp xD), that Aoe was good when stats wasn't so inflated, pvp i mean.
...why you hate preds? =_=
they need moar luv.
At low lvls they are only good to heal pts with healing trap

Btw i meant the previous post to point out that those pve classes should get a new role in the game like not just make Savage, str Sage, psy Wizz or Rumir/Noir. If they moved Scatter Shot and Octopus to lvl5x we would have more choices for pve classes than just lvl111 then start being worth having -.-

[White Arctic Fox]

Btw, a dekan's aoe is already located in the first skilltree...

I'm talking about Splitter, not Zhen Counter. And in general I don't really care for AOE skills, scout isn't good due to their aoe skills but due to their AOE aa's just like 115 preds/temps/knights/defs etc. Rumirs and sages and savages have this at low lvl thus making it easy to lvl and honestly I think sage is worse than rumir and savage lol, they are better at farming/grinding than sage from my experience. The best farmers have AOE aa's coz it gives you continuously hp/mp abso and deals aoe dmg, its better than any skill based class if you ask me. And yes it's rediculous temps have AOE lol

[RBNXD]

Man I wish MrPWI changed Scouts and Preds AoE buffs to lvl5x in the slots of those useless skills they have and then we would see more of them in game.

[arthurderohan]

the good old days when full dekans pts and 1 priest were doing rampage in pvp with mass wffs.


now everyone selling their upgs zhens cuz they no more can 1shotta in pvp

[RBNXD]

they no more can 1shotta in pvp

Good
That is progress.

[White Arctic Fox]

Good
That is progress.

Yea because pressing ctrl + dffs = kill is such nice gameplay, boring AF lol. It's progress but vit dekan owners won't agree for now, maybe after the balance patch

[EaglePhoenix]

Basically you get any gear and you're set. If anything, you forge the cheapest dagger ever (you don't even need it high level) and you forge it with any option stone you get your hands one: 1x HP/MP leech, 1x crit %, 1x attack speed, 1x whatever.
You then level the knight aoe skill by 1 level.

There you go, you just got yourself hp/mp leech sufficient for grinding.
In order to save money, you forge yourself a sword with full armor defense (leech is already on the dagger), rather than damage drop. Bam, there you go - no mental barrier, almighty, defense scrolls or wiz/lock shield required. All you need are Fire twins, if you want more DPS - get yourself Water Twins. You don't even need the VIT ones for starters.

You do not make a guard to 'farm', you make it to pvP and thus it needs to grind, which works perfectly with the above.
If you want a farming char, you should be making one that can actually aoe.


Know your role in PvP. Not every class is even supposed to counter every other class in the game. That's why there are classes. Now, we only need to convince PWi of that fact.
Hitting 85k, hence even 45k is beyond ridicule.