Always a change?

[shannon11]

They said so: 'the game needs more people', and they're thinking about giving everything for free, 'let's fuvck all veterans who before have paid amounts to forge (for example Opaniels items), we will have new players, veterans doesn't matter anymore'. What matters if some have paid the amounts before however, there were few 'they paid for us then it doesn't matter anymore'. To offer everything for free that we can then implement new update (as far as I know the level extended and maybe even new armor and weapons), after those updates stupids will lose time and money again to become max. How simple this is!

For all those who maybe don't know so the weapons were made before at Isen:

This is the same way Chakras and opaniels armour are made in Jainus so what's your point lol. Also I think it's good they release new items, before the chakra/opaniels patches I was bored coz there was nothing to do I hit +50, had +18-21 rulers, +12-18 armour, abs +18 and so on. Literally nothing to farm/lvl no bosses to hunt and there are/were too few people to pvp except for the weekends. These new items gave me something to work for again. Also the old items like rulers, armours and so on dropped in price a lot, making new players able to buy this second tier gear (that's still good).

I really don't see how this is so bad lol

[D4rius]

D4rius you do realize that origin had veterans as well? You do realize that they also invested in origin (1k+ $ in under a year or so). You do realize that people that spent their time and money on that server, that just got wiped, ended up on jainus on isen with 115 char (500rp) opa weap (10k rp), opaniel armor set (15k rp at best). soo 25,500 rp worth of gear What do you think those players should've gotten instead? exp seal for 7 days and 30 day mount? You lost nothing as of yet. Origin players lost all however and you still cry.
I presume you are using abso set +12+ right? i presume you have reinforced boss drops 15+ right? i presume you have OP title yes? i presume you have all them Good pets right? i presume you got max walter and max talisman right? I presume you got that ele dung talisman +ed as well. if you cry like a bish that origin got opa set, what do origin players should do? getting opa weap and set for 2k$ invested you think thats fair? If you are then you are mentally deficient. Over the years few of us veteran players got fked multiple times, and with this migration reward do you think it is different this time? bottom line we still lost our money and time and ended up virtually back to isen/jainus with naked opa weap and set.
Times i got ****ed:
1) Scammed for 100k rp when epics came out (had screens of a deal and sht, thought it will work as a proof....was mistaken)
2) Lost **** ton of rp invested in jin upon merge (all the gears weapons that were good there lost their value -50k rp, not talking even about jin **** rates that ended us with +6 boss drops on jainus with people from Ran where where people had 40% to make +12)
3) Origin closure -150k rp (got me opa weap and armor set tho) GG now i am OP on ISEN
Fuk you and whole your cryin on forums that you aren't getting anything for free just because you are veteran and play since beginning in Isen.
People from Origin got instead of opa weap and opa armor set ONLY opa set and weapon

As well as and Chris wrote in his post I didn't mean to those who have really worked or donated to ORIGIN, I personally know many players from Isen who after seeing that will be rewarded at ORIGIN they started to grow characters there. And the sadly is that all of them received the rewards, they took minimum effort and not even 1$ donated!
Regarding you or those who have who were at the top of the Vip there I think the rewards offered are absolutely correct! I just want to stop being so naive our staff!

This is the same way Chakras and opaniels armour are made in Jainus so what's your point lol. Also I think it's good they release new items, before the chakra/opaniels patches I was bored coz there was nothing to do I hit +50, had +18-21 rulers, +12-18 armour, abs +18 and so on. Literally nothing to farm/lvl no bosses to hunt and there are/were too few people to pvp except for the weekends. These new items gave me something to work for again. Also the old items like rulers, armours and so on dropped in price a lot, making new players able to buy this second tier gear (that's still good).

I really don't see how this is so bad lol

The difference between what you say there is that I wrote about another type of server (Isen) where they were few to +50 and there was still many things to do and before they had offered everything for free.

[shannon11]

The difference between what you say there is that I wrote about another type of server (Isen) where they were few to +50 and there was still many things to do and before they had offered everything for free.

You're telling me that the main playerbase in ISEN didn't get max gear etc in a few years time?? That seems odd because I played on Isen when it was released for a few months, then went back to Jainus and basically started from scratch (I played on Pserver as well before that and sold most stuff on Jainus). So in the same time people on Isen got to build their items I did it on Jainus (without charging, I don't charge for items nor do I RMT to get my gear) and yet I got literally almost everything I own +18 (With farmed +18 tickets) I would have gotten like 3 chars to +50 if I didn't sell them inbetween etc.

Since ISEN people, according to you didn't have max stuff/lvl etc anyway, they seem to have lost less (and gained more) compared to Jainus, since most old items became absolete as well as being +50 before the XP pouch release from PA was a bit of a waste. So really what's the problem here because it seems like I'm one of the people that stands to lose the most from this patch/change and yet you don't hear me complain but rather encourage it lol.

[Demonic6000]

As well as and Chris wrote in his post I didn't mean to those who have really worked or donated to ORIGIN, I personally know many players from Isen who after seeing that will be rewarded at ORIGIN they started to grow characters there. And the sadly is that all of them received the rewards, they took minimum effort and not even 1$ donated!
Regarding you or those who have who were at the top of the Vip there I think the rewards offered are absolutely correct! I just want to stop being so naive our staff!

Correct me if i'm wrong but i think you had to be active in Origin for the last 3 months, or you are not eligible to get any rewards. And info about closure wasn't known for even 2 months before closure. That only means that they were active on origin.

None said you should not get nothing from it or that was fair to you, if you have complains about origin, get on line, we have more problems than your waste of 1 year money and if you still playing here, it is your problems too, suck up those tears and move on. Btw, you wanna talk about fair? I do have max gear, max title and I hit as much as a person who started to play 3 months ago and spend less than 20 usd or dont even have market membership, do you think that's fair? You trynna make your case over a entire set of problems in this game. I'm sorry you wasted your time playing origin, what about who spend 1-2 years doing inters and farming 24/7 to be best? Do you think its fair to get a +50 in one click aswell? Two sides, keep fighting where you can get something, what is done is done, none taking your opaniel back sir

Lol and that concerns me how exactly? you talk as if origin players like me are 115+50. And dude i call that a bad planning of your rp, if a 3 month player hits like you do, or he just spent more than you did in those 2 years. You can talk big but i think i said im vet here as well, and played this game since the times when we had separate servers , and people were running around with lvl 30 glaives and stuff (golden weaps). So what if you played for 2 years, i played this game for fking tener or so. Do you fking know how many inters i had over these years? thousands. and you don't see me crying that there are people who are 115+50 just from pa. just do the pa now. for all i care you all can be 115+50 while origin lvl 1s. that just will make chars dirt cheap so its fine. You must be so tired of pushing few buttons and leaving that character of yours for months in a spot and it would lvl itself. It would be different talk if there were no hunter kits and you would lvl that +50 yourself, but you didn't. And anyways after those elemental dungeon updates, wasn't lvlling way more easier to reach +50? Even before dungeon patches people were +50, so your point is not quite valid. I'd say you had quite the easy time lvling a character if you play only for 2 years (i take this time from your date of joining and you said it yourself, so i presume it that way).

And by the "what do people should do who play for 2 years in isen" part i was on the ground ... 2 years wow bro how did you survive even?

[D4rius]

Correct me if i'm wrong but i think you had to be active in Origin for the last 3 months, or you are not eligible to get any rewards. And info about closure wasn't known for even 2 months before closure. That only means that they were active on origin.

As I said I personally know many players from Isen who after seeing that will be rewarded at ORIGIN they started to grow characters in last 1 month and all of them received the rewards.

[Demonic6000]

As I said I personally know many players from Isen who after seeing that will be rewarded at ORIGIN they started to grow characters in last 1 month and all of them received the rewards.

and how is that possible if 1 of the requirements was 3 months of activity? Y0 i think if i pm gm enough of times il get +18 rulers (since i didn't get those upon merge of jin+ran, but instead i got my tali mace +ed from 12 to 18, was very naaais) 115+50 char (since well i waited long enough for my rulers), absolute set since im not happy with my migration rewards. In all honesty i would be happy if they would just spawn rp to our memberships for amount that we charged on origin, thats all, fair and square. To hell with opa weap+armor. Spent way more

Ok now all origin players lets clap our hands and say rp's ... rp's ... rp's.
And well as it stands now, i don't think there is any point in logging in this game at all now. Spend money time and effort (literally no hk's in origin) for 1 year straight and get **** stuff in another server, and pretty much start from scratch ... no thanks, had it already ... if this is how Gm think about playerbase that actually spend on their game (just close the server throw some bone, edit in closure day 2 days before closure, cut down rewards, and let you play on isen or jainus by charging and building again) yep thats pretty says it all about the attitude towards community

[Jester999]

and how is that possible if 1 of the requirements was 3 months of activity?

facts dude.
when they announced the migration rules even friends of mine start logging in origin, creating new char or suddenly continue leveling their 6x char to 99 to get the rewards.
and they did.
is that how the migration should used to be? i dont think so.
they fvcking messed up the migration