when was the last time you play Rohan? when was the last time u forge ? are u really currently playing this game? have u seen the rates? everything is fail fail and fail, and I like said before im talking about new players, how they supposed to forge that? and if talking about farmin u said about making aoe, lets take example of scout ...I have seen new players with abs and they died easily...... So if hitting 45k is beyond ridicule how can I call a 85k shield strike????