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    Quote Originally Posted by petebebz View Post
    The equations I give is about FALSE EQUIVALENCE. But never mind the equation. It only means that ISEN and JAINUS are not the same. In other words, what is TRUE in ISEN is not necessarily TRUE in JAINUS and vice versa. Your words are futile unless you show us a video/evidence (in JAINUS of course) of what you are talking about.

    "What I said it is not impossible to get TOP 1 and there is a chance to do it even it is hard but no way of 0% chance"(you said it). I'll break it down to you. When you say "IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE", the you basically mean "IT'S POSSIBLE" (compliment rule). The BURDEN OF PROOF is on you so SHOW THEM IT'S POSSIBLE.

    Now enough of this.

    Why not focus on the solution.

    1. Your solution
    "make the PA universal to everyone is make those mobs 2pt/100 pt/BOSS same with mobs 1pt in terms of pdef and mdef and the life of 2pt should be twice as 1pt and 100 pt is 100x as 1pt as well as the life of BOSS is 1,000x as 1pt. Everybody knows that all races/classes have damage in mobs 1pt."

    2. shannon's solution
    (I can't find it) IIRC, support class can get assist points if they are in close proximity to the DPS class they supported.

    Now set aside cursing and look at the solutions objectively.

    Your solution is good but there is a problem. We are still forcing support class to kill mobs to gain points. How can they support if they are busy competing with DPS class to gain points?

    I have a farmer scout (I got no problem no matter what time I choose to PA)
    I also have a VIT def (even if I choose to enter the last PA, It's too difficult to compete).

    And please, STOP the "OH, I have a vit def in ISEN bla bla bla". As I said above. What is TRUE on ISEN is not necessarily TRUE on JAINUS.

    Now shannon's solution offers more logical approach to solve the problem. IF THAT SOLUTION would be implemented. Support class can focus on supporting and still can get the necessary points required to get 12 cert. As of the moment, no other solution is presented. I thought of a solution quite similar to yours. I did not bother posting it since shannon's solution is far better than what I thought of.
    vit defender can equip strength pendant accessories, melee weapon and other gears to boost melee attack for PA purposes only. If you use gears intended only as supports you will be ****ed anytime in PA.

    Yes it is true that you can't support and gain points at the same time...You don't need to support those high DPS Class in PA because they can gain points anytime they want to. Everybody wants 10 pts in PA and will do it by yourself because the DPS class you support will not give it to you the required points you need and make it harder for you because of competition.

    Yes there is flaw in my suggestion but it is just simple to minimize the problem in PA, when you add another complicated suggestion it will add another problem too. Gaining points of supports too near the proximity of DPS will raise the problem of ALTS to be abused. EXAMPLE If I have DPS Char and 4 ALTS in our side, of course i will join my 4 alts with my DPS char in PARTY. My 4 alts will eventually gain points easily only just to follow my high DPS character. You solve 1 problem but you add 3 problems this thing should be avoided.
    Last edited by dayday31416; 10-07-2018 at 11:21 PM.

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