8h respawn? really? Nice Drop? Pss there is no opportunity for player kill that bosses if they drop another stuff than ticket, now big guild go kill bosses 24/7 and 0 title for everyone. Nice Jobs GMs
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8h respawn? really? Nice Drop? Pss there is no opportunity for player kill that bosses if they drop another stuff than ticket, now big guild go kill bosses 24/7 and 0 title for everyone. Nice Jobs GMs
I totally agree, this event is definitely for big guilds that are greedy for drops and no chance at all for starter players. What nice about this event is to attract pvpers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinko
So GM`S **** US AGAIN Nice Job GM`S U Dont KNOW HOW TO MAKE EVENTS Just GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK AND CLOSED THIS GAME
There have been and still are plenty of events available for new players. The dust farming event works for any lvl player, you can either choose to sell the dust and cash in or to open the boxes and hope for +12 tickets.
Same goes for 3x inter dungeon daily, its still running and you can farm SES/IP there. You can buy xp pouches that immidiately get you to lvl 101. You have rings with 200 stats on it which are practically free.
Instead of complaining you better work your ass off so you can join the big guilds and farm those new bosses. I've been playing for 10 years and I started from scratch (I havent charged to get my items/gear/chars, I've earned it), back in the day it was WAY harder to lvl and obtain gear, everyone playing now has it 1000% easier than when this game was released.
All you noobs want is easy to get OP gear in like a month after you start playing, unless you gonna throw a few Thousand dollar at this game you won't get that. So instead have patience, farm and improve your gear in small steps.
To give an example, when they released the crafting system I spend 5-6 months gathering nearly daily to make rps to buy a 4x upg weapon. You monkeys don't deserve any good items if you don't have the patience to work for it.
Nobody talking about item or drop, there is no reason for release a new title if NOBODY CAN OBTAIN IT(majority player), guys who hunting that bosses got trans title so they who care about it only focus on drop, GMs had to put the title in a quest or other mechanics.
80% of the current playerbase are veteran players who are playing for 5 years or more. So just because YOU can't obtain it doesn't mean noone else can. Multiple bosses drop boxes that give a chance to obtain this item (maybe the box is tradable? idk), the respawn time is 8 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinko
You can be 115+50 for free in 3 months, you can get 200 stat rings practically for free, you can farm lvl 6 and lvl 7 SES/ASES for FREE in game. You could farm and sell items to buy an opaniel weapon (or try your luck with boxes) and buy temporary stones from IP to fill it. If you spend half a year to a year you can have multiple chars with endgame gear ready and you'll be able to farm endgame bosses. If you're good at this game and you spend some $ you can probably easily get it done in 1 PA season.
Just because you guys suck at this game and have no patience to farm up for a few months and git good you complain here. GTFO or start working for your sh1t to achieve something or just quit and go play fortnite with all the 12 y/o fags.
Unfortunately that is one of the reasons why Rohan is barely hanging on by its fingernails. It can't survive if all the new players quit shortly after starting and the only players left are the ones that have been here longer than Jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by shannon11
It is also why everything costs so much - there are barely enough players donating to keep the game running. After all if the game was healthy there would be more than 2 servers each with a couple thousand players each. A game like this needs a good player base donating money to buy their shit. But if the veteran players keep running them off, then the only ones left playing here are those veteran players - and pvping against the same tired group of people over and over and over yet again gets pretty boring for folks that have things other than this game they would rather do.
New players mainly younger ones expect everything to go fast, they are used to playing other games on PS/Xbox etc which take zero effort, no skill and can be finished to endgame lvl in a matter of weeks. They are also used to spending very small amounts of money via micro transactions rather than spending bulk amounts 1 or 2 times (in the end you spend the same amount). People do not want to play a grind/farm game anymore, they want instant sathisfaction with low efforts and low buy in cost. I'm not gonna go into further details but the general attitude of the younger generation is like this, with everything (due to the way they were raised).Quote:
Originally Posted by PenguinJoe
Rohan is simply not the game that works like this. If you decide to change it into something like those other games, the veteran community (which keeps the game running) will quit. This game is 10 years old and I also do not expect them to try and become like games which were released this year.
With this having said, you probably see as well, this game can't and won't change into some fast phase and cheap flashy knockoff (for many reasons). They have made a lot of changes in the past year that made this game easier to get in to, cheaper to buy in and what not. The things i mentioned above are things you can literally get for free by setting hunterkit AFK or attending power arena daily.
In the past non of this was possible, everything had to be payed for, lvling took ages, getting endgame gear to farm/xp was impossible unless you charged tonns of dollars. People don't know how easy/cheap it currently is compared to a few years back.
So honestly, people who complain about events, which give free stuff, I'll keep telling em to fk off.
Tbh every game out there has its complaints. You can't please everyone. But there are ways to balance things and still grow. WoW is 4 years older than Rohan. Even though its overly saturated graphics are pretty much enough to kick off an epileptic seizure it manages to not only keep its veteran players, but also pulls in and retains the new ones too. I don't particularly like WoW (I find it ugly as stink), but they manage to keep 3.6 million players there. So maybe PWYNKI should maybe take a look at that game and figure out what it is that Blizzard is doing to grow rather than constantly lose players. I know what it is, but I am simply tired of giving these guys my analysis only for them to not even have the courtesy of acknowledging it.
Shannon11 PLZ dont be stuped i play this game since open beta the new GM`S dont know how to run ROHAN Game is Falling Appart And Where In Game U Get Stones Lvl 7 u have to buy those or maybe u have a HACK for them EVENT SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT U CAN SAID ANYTHING BUT FOR THOSE PLAYING HERE FOR MORE THEM 5 YEARS WE KNOW THE EVENT SUCKS AND WHERE IS THE STUFF THEY PROMISE TO GIVE AFTER MAINTANANCE wakakakakaka I DONT SEE DO U ????????? THIS WAS ROHAN BEFORE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB9QvIA0M2A
This is true but I'm pretty sure wow had a much bigger playerbase to begin with, also if I'm not mistaking it was one of the first of its kind (rohan is like a wow knockoff with pvp focus). Also Blizzard has a WAY better marketing strategy and deals with their players in a totally different way then YNK/PWI does. Those are core differences that aren't easily dismissed and shaped both games into the way they are now. You can't undo the past, only try to look forward and make the best of it. With a 80% veteran community GMs simply can't make huge changes that negatively effect those veteran players, since they'd lost most of their players and thus income. Rohan is too old and too slow for the younger generation so finding new players is very hard and very few that come here actually stick around. They have changed a few things in the past year that have made it a lot easier for new players to start here (and a lot less p2w, it still has a huge p2w factor tho). I hope they will add more content like this, this winter (northern hemisphere).Quote:
Originally Posted by PenguinJoe
Changing this game into something popular with a huge playerbase? no way, it's too late for that. But keeping the veteran players happy/busy and also try to get a few new players to stick around and play is something they've been doing and hopefully keep doing. (just don't touch the pk system or *server goes poof*).
1. You are what I qualify as a r3tardQuote:
Originally Posted by Tylenol4U
2. If you play this game since open beta and you don't know how to get 100% ASES for free from the most recent events (beside login event which provides 1 ASES a month) you do not deserve to know this because you refused to read anything usefull posted on this forum.
3. GMs have had the same attitude throughout the years, it hasn't changed much not in a good nor a bad way, it's simply always been sh1t, something you should know as well if you're playing here for this long a time.
Lastly I'm playing this game for 10 years and I do not think the events suck, nor do many events in the past suck. There were events in which I made (legally without abusing anything) easily 50k rps in 3 weeks at characters lvl 1. Without spending any money on this game. Same goes for current events. The Xmass event last year made me over 400 billion crone in like a little over a month with only setting shop (afk) and farming chars on hk (afk) while I was attending university.
The problem with most people is that they do not understand simple economics and they dont READ anything posted here or on the KR forums. What they do is login, write some jibberjabber complaint to vent their frustrations and leave. Just like you just did, it's not constructive, it doesn't do anything, doesn't help anyone. The only thing it does is make you look like a fkn tard.
I understand both sides of this but this is supposed to be some kind of event couldnt they just put a quest so even if you are not getting the drops you get something for joining in on the boss kills? Maybe not the box but lets say if you get 5 kills on each boss you can earn the title as well.
Seems very reasonable and legit, would be a great improvement to the event. Even just killing each boss once should do. Considdering the updated mirror dungeons, inter, superior and the new map most new players are in a dire need for PVE defense to be able to farm pet tickets/proofs/trans stones/IP and what not. It wouldn't compromise the current title system since people still need to get the max Pa title to scale on to ''trans and ''1k title''.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
I said it before, a quest is a better way.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
This Thread isnt about the drop, its how the title can be obtained and that the current state sucks, because its the same sh1t for the same players(Boss drop monopoly). Its not accessible to all or reasonable
Some cant understand that the problem here is simple STATISTICS or doesnt know what that word means, yes there are 80% of veteran players, but doesnt mean that all of them have access to those bosses, so they can kill them or not, at the end of the day after few months only 5-10% max of player base will have the title. How PJ says you cannot please everyone, but its a very bad business strategy not to please at least 70% of your current player base(consumers), with another mechanism like obtaining the title with a quest or collecting item, so everyone can have access and not a 10% maximum.
Greetings rohanians!
The objective of the event is to make a title difficult to achieve, we already have events in which everyone can participate and we will have more. Certain content must challenge the players, we give many ways so you can get rewards but sometimes we will have content that is for guilds or to challenge the players.
Soon we will have other events and there is also the "Make your quest" event. Be patient, you must understand that part of the game is to make difficult challenges to achieve. And I know very clear that certain guilds have advantages because they are several and veterans, they are going to compete for these bosses and that is the idea. We still need to receive more feedback on this, but soon there will be more events. Do not expect all the content to be easy.
Then some complain about the rewards and others complain that it is not for everyone. Each event has a goal and is improved over time. We have also mentioned that this content will be expanded later, these will not be the last bosses you will see.
thank you,
best regards
-R.O.H.A.N.: Blood Feud Team-
This is a constructive comment and eager to support the community. Your suggestion is good, but it would be a weaker title because it would be easier to get. As mentioned in the post we are going to extend this content with more bosses and quest but people do not pay attention to the full post.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
Thank you for your feedback. :)
This makes zero sense considering all the top DPS who were in contention to get the box and thus the title already have trans title which gives 1k in the stat of their choice. This title is quite mediocre compared to that its literally Star of Victory with pve defense which like I said before top DPS dont need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albreiker
No surprise, i do not expect your guys gonna change anything. Its the reason why this game dying.
I think you have to mention that this game has a monthly fee and a cost of expansion. The model is very different. You know this game probably better than some GMs, you know that the problem to win new players lies in how old the server is and the difference in power between a new player and a veteran player. It's something we have to deal with every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by PenguinJoe
The simplest solution is to create a new server for new players, but it is something that must be evaluated with care. At this time, making a new player strong quickly affects the economy considerably. We have already applied some content that makes it easier for a new user to be more competitive with a veteran user (We did not have very good reactions from veterans) but it is still difficult.
At this moment there are 2 sides, the side of the veterans and the side of the most casual veterans. New players do not even take these sides because they do not use the forum. But when they reach a certain point they realize that it is very difficult to beat a veteran and not only for the equipment but also for the experience. Believe me, we are looking for a solution, but it must be one that does not affect anyone and the process of change must be natural not forced.
Thank you
I would like to give you the reason, but I can see the game and the players. The game has more and more players each time. But for your comment I notice that you probably are not currently playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinko
I respect your opinion but as I said before I can see the players in real time. And I can assure you that you are wrong, some people have been saying that the game is dying for 5 years. What is dying are the pirate servers that do not know what else to give and only make a server boring and without real economy.
I give you the reason, but I can tell you that the number of people with that title is not so many. The problem is that some players have large communities and for them that's all Rohan. But there are many more people who also participate in the events.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
Would you really like that title to be stronger than Star Of Victory? But good as I mentioned before we are going to extend these contents, you will have more news in the future.
Its that GMs cant understand, new title is mediocre in comparation with Trans Title and still SOV is better(more hp), is stupid and nonsense because top DPS dont need. They hunting that bosses only for the drop and dont care about new title.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
I gave him the reason, of course I know that title is not stronger. But I think we're not discussing anything relevant anymore. I will take your feedback into account, the next title will be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinko
Please remove the +15 ticket , it will solve the massive issue between the Community , the +15 ticket should not be obtained trough the world bosses. The loot is good enough as it is of now . Remove the +15 ticket issues will be solved. I hope you guys listen to the community at least for once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albreiker
Thank you
Clearly we are not playing the same game, anyone strong enough to grind in the flame god dungeon has Trans title (Spearhead/Cheif/Commander/Assasin etc.) or they have "Transcended" title. I log in for PA and I see at least 60 players with that title and thats only 1/2 the playerbase since the other 1/2 will be in "Morning PA".Quote:
Originally Posted by Albreiker
W R O N GQuote:
Originally Posted by Albreiker
Segregating the population is the problem not the solution, you need to merge all servers into one platform (so you only have 1 problem) and then proceed to fix that problem by bridging the gap with new equipment. I outlined it in this thread ideas to actually fix the game which you should totally take a look at.
You know what your problem is and why I tell you to f*k off? The only thing you do is complain, you don't give proper alternatives or improvements you only try to smack down what's given to you. If you want to spend time typing something out take an example from PJ or Sunny, you'll rarely see them just vent, they adress an issue and usually give better ALTERNATIVES instead of just mindless rambling or reapeating what others said (which is what you do).Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinko
The issue isn't statistics, some events are world wide events and available for every player lvl 1 to 115+50 (like the dust event). Some other events are focused on high lvl players to create competative pvp. Not every event has to be available for EVERY player it has never been like that and it will never be like that, just get used to it.
I agree it would be better to remove the title ticket from the Box and instead make a quest that requires you to kill all the 3 bosses to receive the ticket and obtain the title. Instead of the title ticket the Opaniels Exchange ticket could be added to the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
I pretty much agree with (almost) everything in this post, you can't compare rohan to other games out there, time for that is long gone. As for creating a new server, I hope you learned that it's NOT a good idea (look at Origin/ISEN/JIN) they all pretty much failed. It's much better to improve the current server, merge ISEN to it and combine all the players you have in 1 bigger server.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albreiker
Dealing with the powercreep in MMO's is one of the most complicated things and it's the reason many MMOs become a desert after a certain amount of time. At one hand you HAVE to release stronger/better content than what's already in the game, otherwise people with endgame gear will not buy/improve their gears. While on the other hand every layer of new, more powerfull gear makes the power gap between starting and veteran players bigger. After running a game for 10 years and releasing new content on the way you end up with a huge difference between old-new players. You can't simply release OP gear for newbies since that will enrage your veteran community, which is your main group of focus. On the other hand you can't keep increasing the power of gear if you want new players to stay and play.
It's a difficult issue but I've seen some solutions given that could close the gap between new and old players WITHOUT enraging the veteran community. Some of the posts of Sunnyangel are a very good example of what can be done to solve part of these issues.
http://forum.playrohan.com/forum/sho...#axzz5PbeS1qYf
You're missing part of the point people are trying to make, let me explain:Quote:
Originally Posted by Albreiker
You have a few titles in game which are valued by pretty much everyone:
- Star Of Victory (100 all stats 6k hp)
- Trans title (requires SOV and gives 10k hp 10% PVP def and 100 all stats)
- 1k title (which requires Trans + SOV and gives 1000 of 1 single stat, 10k hp, 10% PVP def)
Now those 3 titles are consecutive titles which mainly can be gotten by attending the power arena. They are PVP focused titles but the 1k stats title is also PVE focused (since it's currently the best title you can get)
Now you (Albreiker) said that the current boss event is for max geared players to contest in pvp over a few hard bosses (which is a fine event) but the problem with the reward is that the title you released (10% PVE defense, 100 all stats 2500 hp) is not on par with the 1k title and nor should it be. The people who contest for this boss will mostlikely already have a 1k stats title and thus will not need/use the title ticket obtained from the boss.
This beats the whole purpose of this reward. This is why I suggest you change the rewards and swap the title ticket with an opaniel exchange ticket BUT create a quest for the (10% PVE defense, 100 all stats 2500 hp) ticket to make it possible for semi-maxed out players to attend the boss war, not obtain the reward box but they will be able to hit the boss and help kill it. If they succeed in killing all 3 different bosses, they will get the title ticket.
Does this make sense to you?
The +15 ticket isn't the issue for most players here, nor is it for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by NotSaintNSinner
I literally see 0 downside to having more people attend these bosses to complete a quest to get the title while the top DPS fight for the box.
is no more players they are same players making more accounts u see what u want look there is 1 person playing 10 characters
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
There is a thing called IP adress…..Quote:
Originally Posted by xantoniox
I mean make a survey asking the players who play right now if they would recommend this game to their friends and the answer is gonna be no because how do you sell this game to somebody right now?
Even if your friends used to play rohan you cant sell this game to them.
As I said repeatedly, it is now almost impossible to compare a new user with a veteran user, especially for the PH items or upg sales items. It was something that was done before and I know it gave problems, they do not have to tell me, but the solution is not so simple. We must make a fair solution for the whole community. New equipment will come in the future, I think that everyone already knows by now. We mentioned it in many post.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
I respect your opinion and I hope that you also respect mine. Let's continue with this debate in a respectful way, do not insinues things or say that our opinion is wrong. I remind you that we do the best we can for Rohan and there are decisions we must make under our responsibility. Always evaluating risks. I wish I could apply some suggestions without thinking that something could go wrong.
Thank you for detailing the points more clearly. I understand better what you mean, we will make changes as soon as possible. We can not do something exactly the same as what you suggest but we can take this opinion into account.Quote:
Originally Posted by shannon11
I have clear that you did not like the title. hahaha I will do my best to change it, it is no longer necessary to mention this topic.