Safe refining.

What is it now?

I hear left and right it's at +0 - therefore plenty people (incl. myself) been wasting pres. stones for giggles.

However, I just read in forum FAQ by GM the following, and I quote:

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Q: What is the limit of safe refining where the item won't break if the refine fails?
A: The limit of safe refining is 3. Beyond that is where the risk of breaking an item will start. So failing in 3 to 4 refine will certainly result to an item to break.


Read more: http://forum.playrohan.com/forum/sho...#ixzz4edJFdJAF
www.playrohan.com

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Can anyone confirm???

When there are equips that are level 11x the refine breakage limit needs go up to deal with it. afaik the Opaniels are level 11x and MUST to be refined down to be wearable.

There will be an awful lot of very oissed players if Opaniels are being destroyed when trying to make them wearable.

3 options here:

1. Lower the highest level of equipment that needs to be refined to no more than 103.
2. Raise the refioning breakage limit to safely refine equipment that has a max level of 11x.
3. Do nothing and watch players leave as fasst as they hit end game because equipment cannot be safely made.

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe

When they have equips that are level 11x they need to raise the safe refine limit to deal with it. afaik the Opaniels are level 11x and MUST to be refined down to be wearable.

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Small distinction: with safe refining to 3, I reckon they mean +1, +2, +3.
Not level refining: which is, an already established, minus 6. No?

Edit: actually, that'd be enhancing - what's with the previously established -6 safe dlvl then? Or should I go to bed and come back tomorrow fresh?

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Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix

Small distinction: with safe refining to 3, I reckon they mean +1, +2, +3.
Not level refining: which is, an already established, minus 6. No?

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If you are talking about enhancing, then there is no safe enhancing level. I have broken stuff going fro 0 to +1.

but level refining I thought it was 6. If they say 3, then the safe max level is -5 (-1, -1, -3)

Refining: meaning lvl down, I THINK the safe amount is -15 lvls. Meaning that maximum amount of lvls you could refine equipment without it breaking is 17 lvls down from his original lvl.

Enhancing: there is no safe way to do so. you can enhance items from +1 up to +10, if you fail at either one of those +'s your equipment will break, thus forcing you to use preservation stones all the way

If you ask me the Enhancing should be safe up to +3 so for +4-10 you'd need pres stones

The refining MUST be -15 lvls since you can't wear endgame gear otherwise lmao.....

Would be nice for a GM to confirm this and make a correct guide.

Their guide:

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2. How to use Enchant System

If you have received the item that you can't equip due to the level requirement, you can lower the requirement level by using Enchant System.

[Warning]
If enchant level goes down to below 6 levels, the percentage of success rate may go down to 50%.

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Their FAQ:

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Q: What is the limit of safe refining where the item won't break if the refine fails?
A: The limit of safe refining is 3. Beyond that is where the risk of breaking an item will start. So failing in 3 to 4 refine will certainly result to an item to break.

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Originally Posted by snipers334

Refining: meaning lvl down, I THINK the safe amount is -15 lvls. Meaning that maximum amount of lvls you could refine equipment without it breaking is 17 lvls down from his original lvl.

Enhancing: there is no safe way to do so. you can enhance items from +1 up to +10, if you fail at either one of those +'s your equipment will break, thus forcing you to use preservation stones all the way

If you ask me the Enhancing should be safe up to +3 so for +4-10 you'd need pres stones

The refining MUST be -15 lvls since you can't wear endgame gear otherwise lmao.....

Would be nice for a GM to confirm this and make a correct guide.

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refining is def not -17 (-14 + -3) could be -6 could be -3 but definitely not old BF's -15.

That WILL need to change or the levels of the top gear lowered. whichever works otherwise people will definitely leave when expensive opaniel gear starts breaking.

So we established it's neither level refining nor item enhancing - thefuq they on about?!?

i broke an ancient from +2 to +3 ,i sent ticket since the f.a.q. says is safe to plus 3 ,i got this http://imgur.com/a/fCASl

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Originally Posted by saburotobi

i broke an ancient from +2 to +3 ,i sent ticket since the f.a.q. says is safe to plus 3 ,i got this http://imgur.com/a/fCASl

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So we CAN actually safely plus to +2 then??
Mindfuck - if you want to create confusion, this is a great way to start. Does that mean you can enhance non-ancient items higher than +2 safely..? (who would want to do that, IDK, but still).

There's then absolutely no reason not to plus everything you've got on you to +2. Every bit helps.

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Originally Posted by saburotobi

i broke an ancient from +2 to +3 ,i sent ticket since the f.a.q. says is safe to plus 3 ,i got this http://imgur.com/a/fCASl

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They'll restore your weapon since it's their fault for putting it wrongly on the forum.

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Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix

So we CAN actually safely plus to +2 then??
Mindfuck - if you want to create confusion, this is a great way to start. Does that mean you can enhance non-ancient items higher than +2 safely..? (who would want to do that, IDK, but still).

There's then absolutely no reason not to plus everything you've got on you to +2. Every bit helps.

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I've heared from people whom failed at +1 and lost their item. The GM's of this game know less than some of the players in it lol, but that's nothing new, isn't it EP xD

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Originally Posted by saburotobi

i broke an ancient from +2 to +3 ,i sent ticket since the f.a.q. says is safe to plus 3 ,i got this http://imgur.com/a/fCASl

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Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix

So we CAN actually safely plus to +2 then??
Mindfuck - if you want to create confusion, this is a great way to start. Does that mean you can enhance non-ancient items higher than +2 safely..? (who would want to do that, IDK, but still).

There's then absolutely no reason not to plus everything you've got on you to +2. Every bit helps.

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I broke going from 0 to +1. No big loss since it was a lowbie NPC crossbow - which is why I am not raising hell on earth about it. So much for any safe limits.
I won't enhance anything valuable without appropriately rated pres stones.

Betas are for addressing inconsistencikes like this

GMs Take Note!!!

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Originally Posted by snipers334

They'll restore your weapon since it's their fault for putting it wrongly on the forum.



I've heared from people whom failed at +1 and lost their item. The GM's of this game know less than some of the players in it lol, but that's nothing new, isn't it EP xD

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Well, their game-guide reads as if it's google-translated so no surprise there (which it probably is, hence the KR signs here and there... ). Although I must say that I'm surprised to see an actual (pretty extensive) game-guide at all... so not sure what to think of that.
I've sent a ticket for giggles - let's see what comes from that.

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe

I broke going from 0 to +1. No big loss since it was a lowbie NPC crossbow - which is why I am not raising hell on earth about it. So much for any safe limits.
I won't enhance anything valuable without appropriately rated pres stones.

Betas are for addressing inconsistencikes like this

GMs Take Note!!!

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Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix

Well, their game-guide reads as if it's google-translated so no surprise there (which it probably is, hence the KR signs here and there... ). Although I must say that I'm surprised to see an actual (pretty extensive) game-guide at all... so not sure what to think of that.
I've sent a ticket for giggles - let's see what comes from that.

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Already adressed this in a ticket I think including heaps of other buggs and problems. As usualy it's gonna take ages to fix it.

For example: I suggested to split attack stones for chimeras into melee-ranged-magic attack to prevent double dipping for temps and having more control over which classes get how much attack %. They implemented that pretty much after the whole era of chimeras. I guess Isen benefit some of it but that suggestion took like what 1,5-2 years to implement lmao. Lets see how long it takes for them to adress these ''bugs''.

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Originally Posted by snipers334

Already adressed this in a ticket I think including heaps of other buggs and problems. As usualy it's gonna take ages to fix it.

For example: I suggested to split attack stones for chimeras into melee-ranged-magic attack to prevent double dipping for temps and having more control over which classes get how much attack %. They implemented that pretty much after the whole era of chimeras. I guess Isen benefit some of it but that suggestion took like what 1,5-2 years to implement lmao. Lets see how long it takes for them to adress these ''bugs''.

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It's currently taken note of :D.

Will be good to get this clarified; I've held off on enhancing anything since I can't be bothered to fail +1 ancient gear, or bothered to spend money on/preserve lowbie stuff.

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Not quite sure .. no confirmation if it is now wrong in the FAQ or wrong on the web page, or actually wrong on both places. So I guess, keep an eye on the FAQ this week.
Luckily there was a link to the forums provided, otherwise I wouldn't have found this place back. Anyway, at least it read enthusiastic - so there's still hope.

Maybe.

IDK
Since Karazy, I'm a bit allergic to the word "report"









Don't ask.

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Can Items break when I forge or refine or delevel?
Items can break when you are forging them and refining them. Anytime an item is deleveled more than 6 levels, it has a chance to be broken.

Read more: http://forum.playrohan.com/forum/sho...#ixzz4evITQQkn
www.playrohan.com

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Q: What is the limit of safe refining where the item won't break if the refine fails?
A: Don't have 100% chance of success. Beyond that is where the risk of breaking an item will start. So failing in 1 to 2 refine will certainly result to an item to break.


Read more: http://forum.playrohan.com/forum/sho...#ixzz4evIVgQGg
www.playrohan.com

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Aight, that answers that - clear enough, also makes sense with in game experiences.

I deleveled a crossbow from 38 to 28. At -9 going for -10, the level refine failed. It did not break. So I did another -1 roll and it de-leveled to -10.

So either the docs are messed up (and the staff are reading from those docs) or the level refine hasn't been set up to break things when they say they will break.

I won't tell them if you don't. (we all know they don't bother reading these forums ;) )

Well, there's not a 100% chance to break something, but there's no certainty that it won't past those safety barriers - but I won't report you for it, this time.
Cuz I'm cool like that.

That's even more ****y than before, though.

failed -23 to -24 refine, didnt break

gonna go out on a limb and say that yes, this game has "safe refining." failed sedorian boots when they were level 23 and got to keep them, they just went to 24 again.

Well taken from F.A.Q :

Items can break when you are forging them and refining them. Anytime an item is deleveled more than 6 levels, it has a chance to be broken.

Question is how high is that Chance? Someone said its 50% but from what i hear in this thread its prolly more like 10%?

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Originally Posted by Danno

gonna go out on a limb and say that yes, this game has "safe refining." failed sedorian boots when they were level 23 and got to keep them, they just went to 24 again.

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Level 2x sedos... That is something worth seeing :D

A friend has a lvl 4x sedorian set which included multiple fails, i don't think anyone knows what the actual limit is unless PWI specifically update us as of today. The only thing it's done when it failed past the "safe refine of -3" was just go back to its original level or whatever

Update: He just refined it even further, failed at 2x and 3x a few times too http://imgur.com/a/r4TQ5

I believe it is 6 too I just seen that on forums from GM somewhere the other day. so im sure it is!

i refined a lvl 38 rare crossbow to 1 today. had a few fails along the way esp around lvl 7 & 3, but no breakage (happy because it was a +10 crossbow ;) that I used for a while then sold off)

http://imgur.com/a/D9JBD

Someone please translate what the hell this even means by the origin team :(
"safe is +1-3 but it's not guaranteed" o k a y

People complaining about these Indo players, when they should be complaining about these Indo GM's.

This is Rohan International, where English is and should be the main language. Their English is fucking atrocious, they can't even understand the difference between refinement and enhancement. After submitting a ticket and pointing out the faults on their webpage as well as their forum FAQ, they still managed to put it wrong.

Not only that, but they then proceed to continue sprouting their nonsense in-game as well as on tickets - giving their players the wrong info.
How sad can it get?

How do you apply for GM? Do a test and if you fail with a maximum total of 10/100%, you're hired?
Like, what the actual fuck.

Of course, it's more important to censor shit like "Tasset".

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Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix

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How do you apply for GM? Do a test and if you fail with a maximum total of 10/100%, you're hired?
Like, what the actual fuck.

Of course, it's more important to censor shit like "Tasset".

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Censoring is pretty broken for sure http://www.webprime.ca/smilies/badboy.gif

As for necessary qualifications to be hired, remember Baked12345....

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Originally Posted by Danno

failed -23 to -24 refine, didnt break

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lucky Boy the refine can break at -6 to -7 ^_^

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Originally Posted by Avaloon2

lucky Boy the refine can break at -6 to -7 ^_^

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You're doing nothing but parroting what you read in the FAQ lol. You're an indoctrinated bag of sand.

Refined lvl 3x ancient to lv 1 twice, np.

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Originally Posted by Avaloon2

lucky Boy the refine can break at -6 to -7 ^_^

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Mine didn't and i failed after -19, but was still able to continue all the way to -30.

If the cap is actually -32 or no-break I'd laugh. Would definitely make the game easier on a second pass through considering how beefy the mobs are lol.

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Originally Posted by soulholder

If the cap is actually -32 or no-break I'd laugh. Would definitely make the game easier on a second pass through considering how beefy the mobs are lol.

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You dont need to pass weapon early, since you can make another character with ease until 70. I guess the real thing is the ferken weapon degrading up to 32 levels down.