New dungeon type thing.

A party is teleported to an instance area.

There are UNLIMITED stages. You go until your party is wiped.

Stage 1 - 10 mobs bonus exp .1% for completion
Stage 2 - 15 mobs bonus exp .1% for completion
Stage 3 - 20 mobs bonus exp .1% for completion
Stage 4 - 25 mobs bonus exp .1% for completion
Stage 5 - 30 mobs with boss spawn when mobs die (r1 boss) bonus exp .5% for completion
Stage 6 - 35 mobs bonus exp .2% for completion
Stage 7 - 40 mobs bonus exp .2% for completion
Stage 8 - 45 mobs bonus exp .2% for completion
Stage 9 - 50 mobs bonus exp .2% for completion
Stage 10 - 55 mobs with boss spawn when mobs die (r2 boss) bonus exp .7% for completion
Stage 11 - 60 mobs bonus exp .3% for completion
Stage 12 - 65 mobs bonus exp .3% for completion
Stage 13 - 70 mobs bonus exp .3% for completion
Stage 14 - 75 mobs bonus exp .3% for completion
Stage 15 - 80 mobs boss spawn when mobs die (r3 boss) bonus exp 1% for completion
Stage 16 - 85 mobs bonus exp .4% for completion
Stage 17 - 90 mobs bonus exp .4% for completion
Stage 18 - 95 mobs bonus exp .4% for completion
Stage 19 - 100 mobs bonus exp .4% for completion
Stage 20 - 105 mobs boss spawn when mobs die (r4 boss random) bonus exp 1.25% for completion
Stage 21 - 110 mobs bonus exp .5% for completion
Stage 22 - 115 mobs bonus exp .5% for completion
Stage 23 - 120 mobs bonus exp .5% for completion
Stage 24 - 125 mobs bonus exp .5% for completion
Stage 25 - 130 mobs boss spawn when mobs die (r4 boss random) bonus exp 1.5% for completion.
Stage 26-29 135-150 mobs .6% bonus exp per stage for completion.
Stage 30 - 155 mobs boss spawn when mobs die (r4 boss random) bonus exp 1.75% for completion.
Stage 31-34 160-175 mobs .7% bonus exp per stage for completion.
Stage 35 - 180 mobs boss spawn when mobs die (zitegiest) bonus exp 2% for completion.
Stage 36-39 185-200 mobs .8% bonus exp per stage for completion
Stage 40 - 205 mobs boss spawns when mobs die (r5 mini boss) bonus exp 2.25% for completion.
Stage 41-44 210-225 mobs .9% bonus exp per stage for completion
Stage 45 - 230 mobs boss spawns when mobs die (r5 mini boss) bonus exp 2.5% for completion.
Stage 46-49 235-250 mobs 1% bonus exp per stage for completion.
Stage 50 - 255 mobs boss spawns when mobs die (Silva) bonus exp 2.75% for completion.
Stage 51-54 - 260-275 mobs 1.1% bonus exp per stage for completion.
Stage 55 - 280 mobs boss spawns when mobs die (Kaza) bonus exp 3% for completion.
Stage 60 - 305 mobs boss spawns when mobs die (beze) bonus exp 3.25% for completion
Stage 65 - 330 mobs boss spawns when mobs die (ruler) bonus exp 3.5% for completion.
Stage 70 - 355 mobs boss spawns when mobs die (random boss from zite to ruler) bonus exp 3.75% for completion.
Stage 75 - 380 mobs boss spawns when mobs die (random boss from silva to ruler) bonus exp 4% for completion.
Stage 80 - 405 mobs boss spawns when mobs die (random boss from silva to ruler) bonus exp 4.25% for completion.
Stage 85 - Upgrade boss silva (100% drop rate)
Stage 90 - Upgrade boss kaza (100% drop rate)
Stage 95 - Upgrade boss beze (100% drop rate)
Stage 100 - upgrade boss ruler (100% drop rate)

Now your probably thinking... but Dekon, why on earth are you giving stages 85-100 bosses 100% drop rate. Well thats simple because these bosses will be like the clones that bosses often spawn with 100% more hp 50% more dmg and in general each stage between 85 -100 will have over 400 mobs to fight through just to get to the bosses.

There will be no time limit to complete this. You only can only attempt this attack 2x a week.

This dungeon will be conducive to all levels from 10-115+10. Obviously each stage will gain difficulty.

Now for the reason for the massive amount of stages. There will be a leader board.

At the end of the month leader boards will be wiped. There will be ranks 1 - 20.

Prizes -
Rank 1 - 5 lvl 7 stones (each player) Champions costume (+50 all stats +100 atk +10% dmg reflection (30day)
Rank 2 - 3 lvl7 stones Champions costume (30day)
Rank 3 - 1 lvl 7 stone Champions costume (15day)
Rank 4 - Champions costume (7day)
Rank 5 - 5 lvl 6 stones (each player) Champions costume (1day)
Rank 6 - 3 lvl 6 stones (each player) champions costume (1day)
Rank 7 - 1 lvl 6 stones (each player) champions costume (1day)
Rank 8 - 5 wrath of ohn 5 30% all stat scrolls
Rank 9 - 3 wrath of ohn 3 30% all stat scrolls
rank 10 - 1 wrath 1 30% all stat scroll
Rank 11 - 10 stacks of holy wine 10 stacks of tear drops
rank 12 - 8 stacks of holy wine 8 stacks of tear drops
rank 13 - 6 stacks of holy wine 6 stacks of tear drops
rank 14 - 5 stacks of holy wine 5 stacks of tear drops
rank 15 - 4 stacks of holy wine 4 stacks of tear drops
rank 16 - 3 stacks of holy wine 3 stacks of tear drops
rank 17 - 2 stacks of holy wine 2 stacks of tear drops
rank 18 - 1 stack of holy wine 1 stack of tear drops
rank 19 - 10 200% exp pt scrolls 10 200% solo scrolls
rank 20 - 10 100% exp pt scrolls 10 100% solo scrolls.

But uncle dekon why do you need to jump through all these hoops when u can just buy it? I mean **** if you want items in this game all you have to do is


Step 1: Post in a thread calling out atzigan
Step 2: Make a sob story about how you cant get something
Step 3: Tell them to put it on the IM

Then atzigan will bring it up in a top secret board meeting on how to milk money from you and BAM! every item under the sun is now in big5.


In fact rohan is an extention of the big5 game without big5 this game means nothing

-atzigan 2001

big 5 is the biggest scam ever.... to be honest.

This is also coming from somone who abused a bug to get over 10k coins in the big 5. I wasted over 1000 just trying to get simple stupid items... the majority of them were turned into tickets and the tickets turned into **** I didnt even want from the lucky 7.

Man did I have a pile of tickets...

Anyways it was about 1:15 chance for lucky item. 1:8 for reg item.

Thats also considering 300-500 rp items. When you put in 99 cent scrolls and such. (things that cost less than the coin itself or around the same price) the chances improved to 1:4 on scrolls and such.

NOW.

With all that being said. I believe that the big 5 would be a much better value if the coins for it were 40-60 rp each. 100 is way too much especially considering that you have a 1:15 chance getting something you actually want.

Then considering you need to completely reset the thing after each roll now... Im assuming its because thats the only way they figured out how to fix the bug where people were able to pull items 95% of the time with the one trick that was rampant for the longest time where you could basically put the same item in EVERY slot without the same item actually being in every slot. However it was mostly 100% for holy wine and tear drops. chances for ses were around 70% and the rates dropped much lower for the better lucky items.

So all in all big 5 lucky items on average cost between 1.5-2.5k rp each. (if your indeed lucky) and reg items cost between 600-800 rp each. Assuming you are trying to get items between 300-500 rps.

Fact remains that the odds are forever NOT in your favor and in the event that you are that lucky to pull lucky items 2:5 rolls... then you should be playing the lottery or going to vegas to gamble.

Its Nice but doubt if ynk will start give rewards like nothin xD I like that Idea but it will make exp way to ez xD maybe less exp o.o

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Originally Posted by xAGIxNUBx

Its Nice but doubt if ynk will start give rewards like nothin xD I like that Idea but it will make exp way to ez xD maybe less exp o.o

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Well the purpose of the bonus is because for the first 20 stages 100+ people will get no exp from killing mobs. So the bonus is simply to keep them going I mean yes im sure the bonus could be changed but I still think that the purpose of it with only being able to do an attack on it 2x a week..

Also the fact that its not a scaling bonus like it is for going to sup dungeon. So lvl 10's will get the flat exp, lvl 20s get the flat. Yes level 10's will probably get wiped on the first boss hell most lvl 50's will prolly be wiped by the first... lvl 60's by the 2nd boss lvl 70s by the 3rd boss most lvl 80s will be fine until zite but they will take a bit to kill the bosses.

The ultimate purpose of this is to be a place groups can go to level without fearing rpk... as well as testing their strength.

I mean I could have started the boss at like mollek or something and spanned it out much longer. And when people start getting to stage 85+ then it might be time to add more bosses into the mix. Like the hero ring bosses, the mini bosses like observer the grey and green phoenix, r5 mini bosses, maybe random duck bosses here and there.

But literally the exp gained from the levels for lvl 100+'s will be the only purpose to hit the stages till stage 50-60ish when the mobs level matches their own. Then you have to consider it will be 20 mobs at all times till all the mobs are dead on you just beating the ever loving hell outta ya. There wont be a gap in respawn 1 dies 1 spawns simple. The numbers may have to go up depending on how easy it is for 4templars, + priest+ empower to rush the stages.

However I do feel that that will be the combo to mount the highest stages. Since there is no time limit, it wont be the best geared bum rushing it either. People will have as little or as much time to calculate how to kill the boss's or beat the stage.

Which takes out the money aspect away from it.

Stages 85,90,95, and 100 will however cater to the heavy geared characters. But they will still have to fight stages of mobs that are from warehouse at that point as well. So 400 mobs each stage... hitting hard as ****.... and a consistent 20 mobs beating their asses.... its going to be brutal...

Oh and upon doing the math you would effectively get 1 whole level from getting to and beating stage 100. Which is by itself pretty impressive.

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Oh and upon doing the math you would effectively get 1 whole level from getting to and beating stage 100. Which is by itself pretty impressive.

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but exp is not represented as a % on the server side so 1 whole lvl for who?

Anyway You cant ask for 100% boss drops if templars will be able to get them all the point of this drops that we fight for them we dont want to get them from some dungeon without PvP the idea is nice but if u give every1 chance to earn rulers like nothin they will stop show at ruler .. slowly the game will die prizes must change.

U can't ask GMs for anything, They simply don't care what players want /need or if the game is unplayable now. All what is important here in this game is $$$$ and how much they can milk U b4 shuting down this ded game.

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Originally Posted by xAGIxNUBx

Anyway You cant ask for 100% boss drops if templars will be able to get them all the point of this drops that we fight for them we dont want to get them from some dungeon without PvP the idea is nice but if u give every1 chance to earn rulers like nothin they will stop show at ruler .. slowly the game will die prizes must change.

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making the rings available to all actually promotes pvp the problem is how to make other pvp worth it which is a secondary problem in rohan (SA, TSB, PA, CV etc are all being made useless by bad rewards and reward undermining via big5 and stupid packages on the IM)


Like I said before based on the thought process of playwith USA eventually the entire game will be on big5 and there will be nothing to work for but oh well its too ****ing late now isnt it?

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Anyway You cant ask for 100% boss drops if templars will be able to get them all the point of this drops that we fight for them we dont want to get them from some dungeon without PvP the idea is nice but if u give every1 chance to earn rulers like nothin they will stop show at ruler .. slowly the game will die prizes must change.

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Well the 100% drop bosses are going to be really hard... I dont know if you guys remember clone zite but he was triple chaos crashing for 30k's on 7x dd... they wont be a walk in the park by any means... 4 temps even REALLY good ones... will have a hard time

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making the rings available to all actually promotes pvp the problem is how to make other pvp worth it which is a secondary problem in rohan (SA, TSB, PA, CV etc are all being made useless by bad rewards and reward undermining via big5 and stupid packages on the IM)


Like I said before based on the thought process of playwith USA eventually the entire game will be on big5 and there will be nothing to work for but oh well its too ****ing late now isnt it?

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yes as you said getting people the ability to get boss drops is half the problem. Currently when they are mined and controlled by the top tier guilds. They stay in the top tier guilds sold by the top tier guilds and it makes the strongest stay the strongest because they control the flow of drops to the game.

It makes it rather 1 sided. This way, with wraths people can make it 50 stages quick as **** without risk of pk, or boss drops being contested by stronger players.

I dont agree with the scrolls and stuff all being added to the big 5, however I did mention that with spending 1k coins in a matter of a few hours, I was only able to get about 40 items and of those 150 about 20ish were lucky items so the odds are not in your favor. The fact that I added stuff like tier drops, and holy wines to my rolls ended up with me getting the majority of those on rolls.


So out of 1000$ worth of rolls only about 15% ended up being actual prizes and the majority of them were only 100ish rp items.

Its all luck.

I also agree that the SA, PA, and stuff like that are incredibly broken. Especially by people who force feed themselves kills. You know who you are! Whats even worse is guilds that will collectively force feed people kills so they win temps are notorious for this.

I think SA/PA need to be run more frequently so that people who work or have school have a chance to do them. While also putting a limit for people so they cant do it multiple times per day.

Not everyone has been playing as long as others and while I agree it takes away the accomplishment of the ones who have spent weeks and weeks and weeks working to something, only to see it for sale. It simply makes it much faster for people who just came back to the game and havent been here for a long time.

All in all I believe that its both good and bad to sell items to people when many people have worked their asses to get. However it could have been worse. They could have just sold the star of victory tickets >.>

Uncle dekon theres no point I told you already the game is being undermined for profit.

These stupid GMs listen to stupid people and have undermined every aspect of the game with cash shop and game parlor promos. Its over theres nothing left irohan has turned into the pservers that they try so hard to shut down thats my point of view and I have been here for 7 long years.

ok so you can leave bb strellan we'll miss you so much xoxoxoxoxoxo

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ok so you can leave bb strellan we'll miss you so much xoxoxoxoxoxo

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And this has exactly... what... to do with this topic?

When you gonna stop humping strellan's leg? We all know you are just pissed because she told you to stop sending her noods of yourself & she wasn't interested.

Nah the game isnt like a p-server.

However as always the game requires a profit to keep its doors open. Even like p-servers. The less people spend the less likely the game is around tomorrow.

So yes, the game requires cash contributions. However, the thing to notice is that for those who can do they can, for those who cant, they pay. Its a simple concept.

I cant play for all the events, I am not here on sundays for PA, or other things. It will literally take me almost a year to get the Light of Victory title I paid for, so you are telling me that people who have been playing for much much much much much longer should belong at the top because they have been here for much much much much much longer and have earned the LOV, GOV, and SOV titles? Which by the way make a HUGE difference when it comes to doing dmg and even having more survivability.

This game since 2007 for me has been viewed as follows.

I cant be here to farm bosses, to do events, to farm gear(prior to hunter kits). So I bought it all. For me it was easier than spending what time I had grinding in hopes to get that one item when I could spend 30$ and buy a finished piece with stats that I found acceptable. However boss drops were still far from being in reach for me, or other players like me.

Mostly because of the hierarchical of Templars being primary players to get boss drops. For me they were out of reach for a VERY long time until I was able to get 4x flame diamonds. While they were still out dated, and not too impressive, I was finally wearing boss drops.

The problem is, the players with boss drops still remain on top. The players who spent more on their boss drops. Are even higher up on the list.

IF I were to make my guild to contest bosses. How likely do you think we would be to successfully contest? Against temps with +18 boss drops? 1-2% chance at best and thats if everything worked EXACTLY as we planned. Then what? We have a chance not even a good chance to get a boss drop. Then were placed on round the clock kos by 2-4 guilds because of our contention of the thing they desire to control.

A dungeon where you actually have the possibility to get boss drops. Without the risk of major kos, as well as the rest of the game brings balance to the game. Im sorry but the twin auras are complete trash. Even the insurgents rings dont have much luster when you consider that they are at best only about 2/3rds as good as a boss drop is.

These things, and ideas I am sharing because they could bring an overall balance between f2p players and p2w players. While this game is free to play. You are simply able to walk around and kill mobs if you play for free. TO be competive at ALL you will need to spend a good amount of money. To be the best you will have to spend a few thousand dollars. Thats a healthy chunk of cash that many people simply cant afford.

However after my long winded novel up there. Here is what I will break on.

This dungeon would give free to play players the ability to become much stronger than their current limitations allow for. They will not be pigeonholed into a tier 5 player class without any possibility of improving because they dont have the means to spend money on the game. Which is perfectly fine. I have the means to spend, and I am STILL barely tier 2. it wont be until I get +12 or better accessories that I will break into tier 1 class, and even then... There is still S Tier which are completely maxed players with unique items that might not be even available for other players to have. Such as tiestos e-edwin chest piece, cherish's DD armors, and other dd armors, along with others gear like the indo hp%/melee% set of armors and there are many more very extremely EXCLUSIVE items that I wont ever have.

So, something like this will bring balance between the free players and the pay to win players and break up the tier system a bit more.