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Are rangers(with 4x upg 70dd xbow) currently viable for pvp at Jainus ?
I have a ranger 115+10 for which i could buy some 70dd 4 part xbow and for example feathers +12 and some nice new armour but i have no idea if they are currently any good vs for example vit dekans/temps/dhans. which are mostly used in pvp.......anyone any advice?
Lets say for example you have
Full dex ranger +10 (766 base dex)
+7 walt 100all stats
+7 dex tali +150dex
5 pc +9 onyx (385dex)
+30all stat talisman
+60 all stat eyes and ears
4x +12 feaths (380 all stats)
Costume +90dex
Hat + 90 dex
Piece of silva + 10 all stats
Gold Trophy + 40 all stats
So thats a total of 2256 Dex self buffed add lvl 7 buffs self + dhan Your easily over 4500dex... The xbow has 95% RA. Most rangers I know full gear are getting over -28k ra self buffed without alm dhan dex, scrolls many of them are not fully geared either.
I have seen them drop patrols in a few crits.
So whats it all mean?
If you go all out gearing the char with EVERYTHING possible. You will have a good amount of dmg and be pretty damn strong. However if you are not aiming to be top tier. You will still max out -ranged atk and do good dmg. I have been siege shotted on my dhan taking 4k + elemental each hit from average gear rangers (without 4part xbows)
So a ranger CAN be viable. Just dont get caught by a templar or a dekan. They will ruin your day.
well i was planning on getting it a new 4xupg and an onyx set and feths +12 or something like that. but i doubt they will do good damage vs for example vit dekans with 4 part upg and full vit....or a guard with 90% dd, and templars will debuff and kill them too. i just wonder if theres any ranger (elite) players that rlly are capable of killing the elite dekans/temps/guards?
and by the way, thanks for ur explenation :)
A rangers whole purpose is not to get hit If you are in range of organized pvp where a temp can debuff you. You were too close :)
k so i got a 4x upg xbow (7xdd) and my ranger +10, what rings would be best to buy for him (as for armour i assume Onyx set) anyone any advice about the rings?
There is New rings if u can get them at +18 with 3% crit and 5% ranged atk 158 dex/vit and 3% crit 4 of them is 20% ra 12% crit and 632 dex/vit they can be op i also saw u makin dex guard so can work on both of this chars but i think those rings are rare but if u find u can be op xDQuote:
Originally Posted by snipers334
true that tho those rings are probably out of the price class im looking for, i was looking for something like feathes +12 or equally or maybe the 3% crit rings +6 or so. i dont know if feathers are the best option after those rings
try to get those new upgraded rings +18 , if u can't get +12 + feathersQuote:
Originally Posted by snipers334
Ranger is all about them fatal crits bud :)
if you get the new upg rings +18 plus a new 4 part upg xbow you will kill people easily (when u find an opening)
This should give you an idea of what -22k ranged does
http://youtu.be/9DPnx9Tf41o
thats some nice crits there, what equipment are you using at ur ranger in that video if i may ask ? :) and thx for the replys guys :)
dont play ranger. Play dhan,templar, dk, def vit, G str,priest, warlock....
played most of them, dhan is still fun but i prefare ranger tho i know they arent as strong as say templars or vit dekans but they are fun to play :)
what would be better Feather+12 or UPG RA ring +6 ?
If you use the upg ring it has to be +18 even a feather +0 is better otherwise.
Why that?, the basic stats are 5% pdf/mdf Ranged and 3 crit per ring times 4 thats already 20% RA/PDF/MDF and 12% crit. i dont know the stats (agi/dex/vit) at for example +6 or +12 but there has to be a break even point between feathers and those rings, specially considdering they give % increase in multiple stats. The only thing i can imagine is that feathers give flat RA while those rings give inflated RA which will do reduced damaged compared to the flat one but i have no clue how to mathematically compare them to decide what + brings you at the break even point lol
Its a secret haha but ill be honest and say i don't have anything +18. Oh and with lvl 6 emp and lvl 6 ctb, i only managed to get -17k RA ='(Quote:
Originally Posted by snipers334
kay seems legit xD i wont have anything +18 either since my Ecash is running out XD
With some descend gear I managed to get to -8,4k ranged (full 7's buffs, 20% alm scroll, 30% ranged lvl 7 emp) even by still using dex twins xD reaching -30k on self buffs and doing descend dmg, it's true abt the true dmg on feaths and the dex added ranged does less dmg as "atk" added dmg. Yet I have to try +18 upg rings and see if I deal more dmg with them or with +1x feaths. Sure those upg rings will add more dex and more ranged atk but the dmg they deal might differ alot. (tested with dex twins and +6 and +10 feath, gave same amount of ranged but dealt more dmg with the feaths than with the dex twins) So it's up to the % ra and % crit added on the upg rings to be sure that they're better than +12 feaths.
PS: Managed to get over 6k dex without even having a walter +6/7 or trophys and so
He is my #1 student =DQuote:
Originally Posted by pagabin
Thats what i was thinking too tho noone seem to have tested it with +12 or +18 UPG rings(pure damage wise compared to feathers). Considdering you have 6K dex you will do major crit damage so the extra crit (12% from 4 upg rings) added to the 5% basic crit (if thats still the same) and the 16% on your upg you hit around 33% crit which means 1/3 hits will be critical this is also one of the big advantages of the'UPG rings tho I cannot tell weather you'd deal more damage in a 10 second combo with feathers(12-18) or upg rings(12-18), too many parameters to compareQuote:
Originally Posted by Hercules666
Either way ill probably go for 4x Feathers +12. UPG (Range) rings seem rare and UPG (Range) rings +18 seem super rare. Thanks everyone for their usefull comments and help
Peace :)