PvP can be fixed with Class Talismans. I heard you don't even need anyone from Korea to implement them.
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PvP can be fixed with Class Talismans. I heard you don't even need anyone from Korea to implement them.
The thing about this Class talismans is that you'll end up boosting too hard those classes that need the boost and pve will be kind of pointless. 1 shot fest at farming lel.Quote:
Originally Posted by bosshunt
Still its not a bad idea making it like it was meant to be, the original Class Balance talismans worked great in the Event server. Elf, Dekan, Avengers didn't get damage boost just an intensive to the dead builds I liked that very very much :D
Hope this idea gets a look at by the GMs :l
...Found it:
http://forum.playrohan.com/forum/sho...CLass+Talisman
Human:
GA_C_Talisman (Guardian Talisman)
Defense +1000, HP + 10000, Strength +350, Dexterity +200----- get rid of defence it has a lot already.
DE_C_Talisman (Defender Talisman)
Defense +1200, HP +12000, Strength +300, Vitality +250----get rid of defence we dont need it on str/vit classes
Elf:
PR_C_Talisman (Priest Talisman)
Defense +900, HP + 12000, Psyche +300, Intelligence +250---- get rid of defence, all priests are vit now or add vitality instead of defence or intelegence
TE_C_Talisman (Templar Talisman)
+800 Defense, + 7000 HP, +2000 MP, +200 Psyche---- get rid of defence templar got mb buff
Half-Elf:
RA_C_Talisman (Ranger Talisman)
+800 Defense, +9000 HP, +350 Dexterity, +250 Ranged Attack---- ranged attack replace by vitality
SC_C_Talisman (Scout Talisman)
+1000 Defense, +9000 HP, +300 Dexterity, +350 Ranged Attack--- ranged attack replace by vitality or str maybe, str scouts again?
Dhan:
AV_C_Talisman (Avenger Talisman)
+900 Defense, +10000 HP, +200 Strength, +350 Agility---- here i should say get rid of str ,str dhans are op already, boost agility to 700 istead maybe agility dhans will be playable again?ofc str dhans gona benefit from it too agility is boosting there crits
PD_C_Talisman (Predator Talisman)
+1000 Defense, +12000 HP, +300 Strength, +200 Agility----ok
Dekan:
DK_C_Talisman (Dragon Knight Talisman)
+800 Defense, +8000 HP, +350 Strength, +150 Dexterity----ok but nerf marea battle, get rid of defence
DS_C_Talisman (Dragon Sage Talisman)
+800 Defense, +8000 HP, +350 Intelligence, +150 Dexterity---boost intelligence to 700 so maybe we will see int sages around
Dark-Elf:
WI_C_Talisman (Wizard Talisman)
+900 Defense, +9000 HP, +350 Psyche, +150 Magic Attack- no need defence, make psy shield skill work better in pvp
WR_C_Talisman (Warlock Talisman)
+900 Defense, +9000 HP, +350 Intelligence, +150 Magic Attack-- ok or maybe add str to it? make str warlock get noir op buffs???? :D
Giant:
BE_C_Talisman
+1000 Defense, +15000 HP, +300 Strength, +350 Dexterity---get rid of defence
SE_C_Talisman
Defense +1200, +15000 HP, +300 Strength, +300 Vitality- get rid of defence
Read more: http://forum.playrohan.com/forum/sho...#ixzz3dKJBMk9V
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Imho guardians -or any class but the HE oned- shouldnt get extra dex of anything without sacrificing any of their main stats.
What if their main stat was dex?Quote:
Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix
Dex dhans ftw.
My thoughts exactly - I did not forget them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chawizzawd
What I meant is that they should not get dex on str/melee accessories, nor should there be str on dex accessories.
If they want more dex - they should sacrifice either statpoints or an accessory slot.
I'm quite fed up with the whole buttering the bread on both sides.
Let each class be its niche.
Evasion is already quite useless as it is. Thanks to crafting.
Don't think the class talisman will fix much honestly. The event server can't be compared with the current server because different gear is used (mainly whollota different DMG drop) also in the live server not everyone is ''equally'' geared and ses'ed and so on, so I find it really hard to believe that the outcome of this talisman will be the same on the live server as on the test server. Add to that, that the stats aren't correctly balanced(to make ranger/agi dhan etc. viable in pvp you gonna need alot more than just these little stats) + there were 2 new classes added in the meantime. even if all those things were fixed I would still not see how this talisman would balance out pvp because this 10k extra HP wont stop a dekan to 1 hit dffs you for 150-200k nor will it stop a 100+100 dpp from a str dhan or the insane negative melee from temps lolQuote:
Originally Posted by RBNXD
In their current (or last seen) state those talismans are indeed quite far from being a balancing factor. Some stats on some talismans will need to be increased by roughly an order of degree, plus they did not even put crit rate, attack and such stuff there at all. Pretty much the recipe would be as follows:
1) Equip all test subjects with endgame gear + buffs, scrolls, etc.
2) Add enough Attack/Attack%/Attack Speed/Crit/Agi/whatever to the real damage dealing classes' talismans until they can deal as much damage as Templars or more.
3) Add Defense/Defense%/DD/... to those who seem to be taking a bit too much damage.
4) Add different amounts of HP to everyone until it seems about right (fight duration wise). May as well put some MP too.
5) Add Heal Recovery Rate % to make healing useful again + increase Heavenly Teardrop cool-down.
6) Make all monsters stronger.
That sounds a bit better but still. Why introduce a new item to try to balance this game, why not start by fixing all the stuff thats currently wrong, at this moment. Also the talisman would be for lvl 115 players only ( I assume) so making mobs harder Isn't a great idea for people <115 since they have to lvl up.....without the talisman. Giving the talisman to lower lvl's defeats the whole purpose of it because it will be a farm/lvl up fest since everyone will be too OP in PVE. Either way I really dont see how this system should improve this games gaming experience and balance lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bosshunt
I think the main work that has to be done to improve this game lies in the current items/classes/skills etc. Simple things like limit everyone to only use 1 scroll of each kind at the same time (so you could only use either melee or magic or ranged, not both magic and melee for templars for example) would already bring back more balance. Execute more (small but significant) changes like that and Things should get more balanced, at least it will have more effect than introduce another item to balance out all the outbalanced items that are already in circulation.
The Class Tali was meant for lvl50+ Main idea was you changed Job and then you had to do another quest to get said tali. I found those additional stats useful but as you said it should be boosted over a huge amount with how OP upgrds are right now. I still think fixing BM should go first than anything implemented ingame.
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Well don't promise us change when you can't even control the higher ups removing special event from SP giving us boosted rates and upgraded exp. Doing a forge event then lowering the rates is milking players. What would you call it I wonder. A unfortunate incident of wrongly timed events? LAWL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karazy1337
Well it would be nice if they fixed Blunt Mastery and other skills/classes, crafting, ..., wouldn't it? Except - that has been asked for years by the players, and YNK/PW game masters (including Atzigan) have even forwarded those ideas to the devs in Korea. The result: infrequent updates to some skills which include small steps towards balance and huge leaps away from it. And on top of that, nothing at all has been done to Blunt Mastery since the staff bug removal, despite years of crying for it to be changed. I think from that we can only conclude they simply don't want to fix it. If they don't want to do it, it will not happen - what are you going to do about it? Either we can a) make suggestion threads, wait a few months until the GMs gather some info from them and send it to the devs, and then wait another year or 2 for things to (not) change, or b) we can use the tools currently at hand (such as the GMs' ability to create custom items like Class Talismans) and come up with fixes by ourselves right now.
Since they can't fix blunt mastery, it should be disabled like teleport.
Hahaha that would be hilarious xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Gank83
lol blunt mastery disabled? are you kidding me? they are thingking of capping DD because the temps are all crying in their cornflakes. the rage that will ensue if they disabled blunt would indeed be epic. specially since 80% of the folks here have a templar.
I can see it now:
*random templar runs out onto the Lime war zone and starts whacking everything in sight .... nothing happens*
"WTF! Wai am I hitting 1xs? Blunt doesn't work any more! Grrrrr!" *dies to a scout*
"Waaaa! Why can't my templar even kill Vargs anymore?"
"Screw this! I QUIT. Ima go play Tera!"
multiply that by 80% of the players here.
Well we have Noirs, Vit Dks and Str Dhans so I don't think everyone will actually quit :PQuote:
Originally Posted by BananaBandit
The problem is, it will create another problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by RBNXD
The only prob it will actually create will be the Templar fan boys crying and screaming that they're gonna quit. Nothing new with the nerfing of Dekans FFsQuote:
Originally Posted by AliceinUnderland
Why not LoL? O.oQuote:
Originally Posted by BananaBandit
LoL is for plebs.
The Tera bit was for a friend who played a temp and left to go play Tera.
I don't much care for LoL.
..and GNYU, but that's because giants didn't receive Polearm Mastery with a similar effect to blunt mastery.
Pfft LoL is like play a match done ok that was fun...
...well that was dumb.