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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyangel View Post
    But those ram prices!


    Also good choice considering the intel ****storm
    Got my mem a couple years back when it was about half the cost. It is intel-specific, but works at full speed on my AMD setup more reliably than it ever did on my older i7 system.
    Yeah that Meltdown and Specter is a real cluster****. Thankfully:

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyangel View Post
    But those ram prices!


    Also good choice considering the intel ****storm
    Except AMD is facing a class-action lawsuit due to this and intel.. isn't.
    Yet, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix View Post
    Except AMD is facing a class-action lawsuit due to this and intel.. isn't.
    Yet, anyway.
    Sounds like some bull**** to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix View Post
    Except AMD is facing a class-action lawsuit due to this and intel.. isn't.
    Yet, anyway.
    Intel is being smacked over Meltdown - which does not affect AMD processors.
    There are 2 variants of Spectre. All CPUs except for some pre-(original)pentium chips are affected by these.
    One can be fixed with a bios update, the other can't be fixed without a microprocessor redesign (which ain't gonna happen). Che chances of either ever actually being exploited are extremely slim since the attack has to come from the same process space/privilege level as the process it is running in. The specter bios fix has little to no effect on processor performance. The other specter variant has the potential to have a VERY large effect on performance since it is very tightly tied to speculative execution which is used all over the place when there are long pipelines of instructions+data to be executed.

    As for how far anybody will ever get with class action suits is hard to say, but I am leaning to the "good luck with that" side of things.

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    The reason of the classaction lawsuit vs AMD is about their change of stance on their statements in but a few days going from "near zero risk" to "While we believe that AMD’s processor architectures make it difficult to exploit Variant 2, we continue to work closely with the industry on this threat. AMD will make optional microcode updates available for ryzen and epyc processors"

    It's about variant 2, not variant 1 nor Meltdown. Whether or not that's ground for a lawsuit or fault is not for me to decide - that's why they go to court anyway. I'm sure we'll hear of it in here and a few years.

    That aside, MS did fk many AMD users over with their OS-updates, leaving plenty with BSODS (finally fixed today..)

    Intel got 4 of those lawsuits against them now apparently, AMD currently set at 2.
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