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    Physical/Magical Armor Penetration stats

    Hello! Can someone please explain how does this work? Is it good in PVP? Is it also good in PVE? Sorry, I'm noob. Hehe. Thanks in advance!

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    Defenders POV only:

    I made 2 lvl 82 ancient maces:

    Full Melee/penetration (read: 17/20%)+0
    Melee/WA (read: 17/6%)+4

    The latter I already had before trying the former, so WA value is low since it also had some other stuff on it I do not need in this calculation (ie: AS).
    Turns out the WA did only slightly less dmg than penetration. I did not feel much of a difference switching the two on different pdef targets (such as scouts vs defender or fighting a dekan or dhan instead).

    Now consider WA also being 20%, being boosted by mace-buff and having added WA from plussing your weap.
    Also considering that 1 WA is approx. 1.65 melee ... turns out that WA for me is the better option.

    Ergo, WA should scale a lot more at higher % and higher lvl.


    I'm interested to see other people their results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix View Post
    Defenders POV only:

    I made 2 lvl 82 ancient maces:

    Full Melee/penetration (read: 17/20%)+0
    Melee/WA (read: 17/6%)+4

    The latter I already had before trying the former, so WA value is low since it also had some other stuff on it I do not need in this calculation (ie: AS).
    Turns out the WA did only slightly less dmg than penetration. I did not feel much of a difference switching the two on different pdef targets (such as scouts vs defender or fighting a dekan or dhan instead).

    Now consider WA also being 20%, being boosted by mace-buff and having added WA from plussing your weap.
    Also considering that 1 WA is approx. 1.65 melee ... turns out that WA for me is the better option.

    Ergo, WA should scale a lot more at higher % and higher lvl.


    I'm interested to see other people their results.
    Ow I see. I thought penetration is something that is like a crit or something. For example in normal attack; there is a chance that when you hit, you will penetrate ones armor, as a result, that hit will cause more damage compare to your normal hits. And that damage has an additional damage base on the target's armor.

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    Personally I thought it would ignore your opponent's pdef for said percentage (imo the most logical explanation).

    Maybe it does.
    I just didn't feel the impact being huge, and expected it to hit more on high defence classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix View Post
    Defenders POV only:

    I made 2 lvl 82 ancient maces:

    Full Melee/penetration (read: 17/20%)+0
    Melee/WA (read: 17/6%)+4

    The latter I already had before trying the former, so WA value is low since it also had some other stuff on it I do not need in this calculation (ie: AS).
    Turns out the WA did only slightly less dmg than penetration. I did not feel much of a difference switching the two on different pdef targets (such as scouts vs defender or fighting a dekan or dhan instead).

    Now consider WA also being 20%, being boosted by mace-buff and having added WA from plussing your weap.
    Also considering that 1 WA is approx. 1.65 melee ... turns out that WA for me is the better option.

    Ergo, WA should scale a lot more at higher % and higher lvl.


    I'm interested to see other people their results.
    hi sir is WA is applicable also to magic attack or only for melee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAYAPUTOMAYA View Post
    hi sir is WA is applicable also to magic attack or only for melee?
    It's applicable to your weapon's attack, meaning both magic and physical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix View Post
    Personally I thought it would ignore your opponent's pdef for said percentage (imo the most logical explanation).

    Maybe it does.
    I just didn't feel the impact being huge, and expected it to hit more on high defence classes.
    Hope GMs provide a clear explanation. I think it can be good in PVP if we just understand how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectr3g0d View Post
    Hope GMs provide a clear explanation. I think it can be good in PVP if we just understand how it works.
    You keep on dreaming, the GM's here have less of an idea how it works than the players lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snipers334 View Post
    You keep on dreaming, the GM's here have less of an idea how it works than the players lmao.
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