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    Guardians, Worth it or not?

    Hello guys, me again xD. now that my dhan is 103 lvling became really slow, so i decided to make another account while my dhan is on HK, and so comes my question about the guardians. Why i never see them on Isen server? can some1 help out with some pros and cons for the guardian class. like good pvper or pve kind of character. Should i pick it or a defender. cuz i see ALOT of defenders.

    Also i read on the wiki that a guardian can dual wield swords and off wield a dagger and maybe a shield? what do u guys think.

    Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymesta View Post
    Hello guys, me again xD. now that my dhan is 103 lvling became really slow, so i decided to make another account while my dhan is on HK, and so comes my question about the guardians. Why i never see them on Isen server? can some1 help out with some pros and cons for the guardian class. like good pvper or pve kind of character. Should i pick it or a defender. cuz i see ALOT of defenders.

    Also i read on the wiki that a guardian can dual wield swords and off wield a dagger and maybe a shield? what do u guys think.

    Thanks!!
    ''lvl 103'' ''really slow'' ..... uh my man? At lvl 103 the xp travels at just below lightspeed. I'll talk to you when you''re 115+40....

    Do inter/minor dungeons, you'll be 115 in no time.

    Guardian > Defender PVE and PVP wise. Use sword (dd) and dagger (dd + hp/mp abs)

    Defender is cheaper to gear, tankier (50/50 vit/str) and very wanted in partys (emp 7 with monthly free ASES 30% attack force and 45% pdf), if you wanna lvl to 115+20 fast & cheap, get a def.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snipers334 View Post
    ''lvl 103'' ''really slow'' ..... uh my man? At lvl 103 the xp travels at just below lightspeed. I'll talk to you when you''re 115+40....

    Do inter/minor dungeons, you'll be 115 in no time.

    Guardian > Defender PVE and PVP wise. Use sword (dd) and dagger (dd + hp/mp abs)

    Defender is cheaper to gear, tankier (50/50 vit/str) and very wanted in partys (emp 7 with monthly free ASES 30% attack force and 45% pdf), if you wanna lvl to 115+20 fast & cheap, get a def.
    Well i do know that higher lvls are harder to get. and on Isen server not much ppl are doing inter dungeons so. anyways i wont rush it lol.
    About the Guardian tho what stat build do u recommend? And if u would rank guardian pvp-wise where would u rank him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymesta View Post
    Well i do know that higher lvls are harder to get. and on Isen server not much ppl are doing inter dungeons so. anyways i wont rush it lol.
    About the Guardian tho what stat build do u recommend? And if u would rank guardian pvp-wise where would u rank him?
    Oh you're at isen lol, come jainus it's much more populated. Full str is the way to go.

    I can only rank classes on Jainus, Isen is probably similar but I'm not sure what chars are capable of doing there, I quit ISEN at 115+3, when the lvl cap was +10.

    Jainus PVP rank: (damage and rpk ability wise)

    1. Int Warlock
    2. Agi Avenger
    3. Str Noir
    4. Str Guardian
    4,5,6,7,8,9,10 etc. Everything else

    There is not much difference between Noir and Avenger, Avenger is better for rpk since it can attack from hide and silence people. For group/party pvp I'd say Noir/Guardian/Warlock own pretty much any other class. Warlock falls off a bit in party pvp since people can outheal their dots as well as spirit makes their whole skillset useless, nontheless they are still really good (specially AOE mana drain)

    Best allround classes for pvp,rpk, group pvp and grinding and farming inter are: 1. Noir, 2. Guardian, 3. Predator

    *Note: Not to forget Rumirs, which are #1 supports and can deal a tonn of damage too. great in almost any situation
    **Note: Predators are really good at grinding, sustain and inter, they are okay-ish for group pvp but can't withstand nor put out CC. For rpk they are pretty crappy if you ask me but other people disagree with this.
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    Gotta disagree with you about Guards > Defenders especially in pve.
    I played Guard b4, changed to Def months ago (also coz i thought they would release the balance patch soon so guards will be nerfed lol)
    And i definetely do better in PVE as i did as a guardian.
    pvp wise im still able to beat almost everything even tho when i really miss rohas blessing.

    Anyway, warlock is nasty as **** but u need to know what youre doing.
    On isen we only had 2 warlocks u had to take serious.
    One quit few months ago, the other one changed class again.
    Warlocks on isen arent very popular somehow.
    Same with agi avengers. Nobody sees the benefits of the avenger they are all blinded by the extra crit rate of predators katar mastery.
    Noir and Rumir are awesome but yea the arrendal weapon is the huge negative point on this.

    @topic get a guard to support your dhan with critical aura.
    Go full strenght with shield and dagger or sword & dagger.
    Or get a rumir for a great party support
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    Quote Originally Posted by snipers334 View Post
    ''lvl 103'' ''really slow'' ..... uh my man? At lvl 103 the xp travels at just below lightspeed. I'll talk to you when you''re 115+40....

    Do inter/minor dungeons, you'll be 115 in no time.

    Guardian > Defender PVE and PVP wise. Use sword (dd) and dagger (dd + hp/mp abs)

    Defender is cheaper to gear, tankier (50/50 vit/str) and very wanted in partys (emp 7 with monthly free ASES 30% attack force and 45% pdf), if you wanna lvl to 115+20 fast & cheap, get a def.
    Waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttttt this brings me to a question. Why Minor/Inter?!? inter is for lvl 115 if im not mistaken, how could inter help with getting easy lvl 115 then O.o
    Sry for beeing offtopic but that rly bugged me, because IF i can get my lvl 10x toons into inter it would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadMansEnd View Post
    Waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttttt this brings me to a question. Why Minor/Inter?!? inter is for lvl 115 if im not mistaken, how could inter help with getting easy lvl 115 then O.o
    Sry for beeing offtopic but that rly bugged me, because IF i can get my lvl 10x toons into inter it would be great.
    You cant its only minimum level requirement not max.
    For example:
    I can enter Minor with my Priest(115+9), Wiz(106), Ranger(99). Minimum level requirement is 90.
    Inter only my Priest(115+9), Zerker(115), Scout(115+3) can enter. Minimum level requirement is 115.
    Superior only Transcended(115+50) can enter. But considering how Inter is i believe this dung is impossible with current gear(+18 accs and such).

    In my experience when i came back to check out the new elemental dungeon I got one of my rangers level 95 getting a little over 15% exp per stage and i was doing runs till stage 4 so that's a little bit higher than 60% per run. My wizard was level 102 and with the days I've been playing and some dung reset scrolls she got to 105 easy. My Priest was different cause i had to enter Inter dung to get good exp(0.2%) tho minor gives her more than i would ever get per killing mobs. Around 0.7% first 5 stages and 2% stages 6-9.

    So far my recommendation for Minor dungeon is get a medium geared(Twins, ok-ish weapon, +5 Onyx) character to clean it up for you and don't waste your time with the last stage(5), the boss is not worth it.
    For Inter a full pt with a Rumir, Def/Guard, Priest, other damage deals is a must with pro gear(Upgrades). The mobs hit with no mercy and you can barely scratch them with twins or even artisans/insurgents, upgrade boss drops is a must.
    Get some friends to add you in any free slot available for this Dung. The exp is insane for 115+0 characters and you could get to +20 without too much effort.

    GL
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    Well guardian beats everyone in a group pvp so ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester999 View Post
    Gotta disagree with you about Guards > Defenders especially in pve.
    I played Guard b4, changed to Def months ago (also coz i thought they would release the balance patch soon so guards will be nerfed lol)
    And i definetely do better in PVE as i did as a guardian.
    pvp wise im still able to beat almost everything even tho when i really miss rohas blessing.

    Anyway, warlock is nasty as **** but u need to know what youre doing.
    On isen we only had 2 warlocks u had to take serious.
    One quit few months ago, the other one changed class again.
    Warlocks on isen arent very popular somehow.
    Same with agi avengers. Nobody sees the benefits of the avenger they are all blinded by the extra crit rate of predators katar mastery.
    Noir and Rumir are awesome but yea the arrendal weapon is the huge negative point on this.

    @topic get a guard to support your dhan with critical aura.
    Go full strenght with shield and dagger or sword & dagger.
    Or get a rumir for a great party support
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