opa weap vs. upgrade

[thatniqqa41]

Abyss much better than Opaniel weapon, if it has a max stat like 112%HP or melee/magic, and 50%+dd +The 4 socket for 4 Trans stones u can put on it, Just like what i saw in CS a Abyss Katar with 112%HP, 12%MELEE, 11%MAGIC, 50%DD, +(Transtone stone for 4 socket, 18%Critrate, +30%PenDD,+33%AS+45%Mobility) its clear that its much more better than Opa, However its no match compare to Upgrade which have 70%DD, 60MELEE, 32%Critrate, HP110%, 50%AS, as long as Upgrade weapon exist people will keep complaining about it.

Yes this is true abyss weapon even with double stats and socketed can not compare to 3.0 katar. But it’s unfair to say that all Upg are on the same level.

3.0 katar is the dumbest **** GMs have ever done to this game.
32% crit
65+% DD

All other upgs are either
24% crit 8%DD
Or
12% crit 65+%DD

It is fair to choose either max crit or max DD but dhans have best of both worlds which is why even after nerf they are still OP.

People claim they are not OP anymore are delusional. We are only able to compete with Dhan same lvl and same gear atm, bc of the infinite crit scrolls from events. Without scrolls you have no chance 1vs1. Obviously with loop or wiz crit immune you have chance.

3.0 katar is main reason that new UPGs will still not even solve the issue.
They will never release katars like that again. And still people who want to play Dhan will cry that 4.0 not as good as 3.0

If 4.0 has similar stats as 3.0 then they might as well have a maintenance where all people are changed to dhans, and change this game name to Dhan Fued.


Back on the subject of abyss weapons. It will take a lot of time but I have seen double max stats on parts. 112% melee and 112% magic attack on a temp or sage can definitely compete with upgrades. You will wreck anyone in 2 seconds no matter their HP/DD

Actually a 112% melee and 112% hp zhen still destroys 2.0 zhen damage 56% melee. Fully socketed abyss would be fun to try.

Like I said earlier many Abyss weapons double stats and socketed, can compete and be better in certain situations, nothing however can compete with 3.0 katar

Still not a fair comparison to all other upgrades

The main issue in this game is that to farm abyss mobs you need Upg 70DD +10DD from trans bonus for total of 80DD.
And on top of that nice pve def%

why would they introduce a (decent) alternative to upgs that you have no way in hell a chance of farming unless you have full party with upgs and maxed gear.

The GMs are too incompetent to properly test the abyss mobs and see any problem.

[chamores]

Yes this is true abyss weapon even with double stats and socketed can not compare to 3.0 katar. But it’s unfair to say that all Upg are on the same level.

3.0 katar is the dumbest **** GMs have ever done to this game.
32% crit
65+% DD

All other upgs are either
24% crit 8%DD
Or
12% crit 65+%DD

It is fair to choose either max crit or max DD but dhans have best of both worlds which is why even after nerf they are still OP.

People claim they are not OP anymore are delusional. We are only able to compete with Dhan same lvl and same gear atm, bc of the infinite crit scrolls from events. Without scrolls you have no chance 1vs1. Obviously with loop or wiz crit immune you have chance.

3.0 katar is main reason that new UPGs will still not even solve the issue.
They will never release katars like that again. And still people who want to play Dhan will cry that 4.0 not as good as 3.0

If 4.0 has similar stats as 3.0 then they might as well have a maintenance where all people are changed to dhans, and change this game name to Dhan Fued.


Back on the subject of abyss weapons. It will take a lot of time but I have seen double max stats on parts. 112% melee and 112% magic attack on a temp or sage can definitely compete with upgrades. You will wreck anyone in 2 seconds no matter their HP/DD

Actually a 112% melee and 112% hp zhen still destroys 2.0 zhen damage 56% melee. Fully socketed abyss would be fun to try.

Like I said earlier many Abyss weapons double stats and socketed, can compete and be better in certain situations, nothing however can compete with 3.0 katar

Still not a fair comparison to all other upgrades

The main issue in this game is that to farm abyss mobs you need Upg 70DD +10DD from trans bonus for total of 80DD.
And on top of that nice pve def%

why would they introduce a (decent) alternative to upgs that you have no way in hell a chance of farming unless you have full party with upgs and maxed gear.

The GMs are too incompetent to properly test the abyss mobs and see any problem.

see upgrade is always on top, its better to flood more upgrade weapon in game so the new player can also compete with those ppl call themselves gods of rohan i hate to admit but i cant do nothing if upgrade wielder bully my character

[thatniqqa41]

see upgrade is always on top, its better to flood more upgrade weapon in game so the new player can also compete with those ppl call themselves gods of rohan i hate to admit but i cant do nothing if upgrade wielder bully my character

A lot of you guys cry for upgs bc you think if you have an Upg also you will have a chance.
There are many other items that a fully geared character needs to be OP and all of them cost a **** ton of money.

Magical Tali, Walters, Verdicts Set, Opa/Abyss Armor, Trans Guarder, Abso Set +18

Each of these have similar cost to an upg, Some even more, Abso Set +18, and Verdict Set is over 99k ecash each
New upgrades won’t do **** to the prices of these other items.
Also Magical Tali and Walters +10 has been said already will be coming in the future, these will be insanely expensive.

If you think all you need is Upg to compete with the top players in pvp you are very very misguided and don’t realize how much gear it takes.


If they release new upgs or not it doesn’t change much.
If you want to be top you have to spend literally thousands of dollars.
If not be happy in bottom/middle or don’t play the game.

There are certain classes that can make it in pvp without upgs.
Avenger with Ultimate skill and opa katar can 100% kill anyone with Upg as long as the rest of their gear is on an even level, which still costs thousands

Edit: I’m not saying they shouldn’t sell 4.0. But I am saying a lot you guys think Upg sale will solve all your problems but you don’t realize how much everything else costs also.

This game is P2W, has always been P2W, and will ALWAYS be P2W.

[Kamui0924]

A lot of you guys cry for upgs bc you think if you have an Upg also you will have a chance.
There are many other items that a fully geared character needs to be OP and all of them cost a **** ton of money.

Magical Tali, Walters, Verdicts Set, Opa/Abyss Armor, Trans Guarder, Abso Set +18

Each of these have similar cost to an upg, Some even more, Abso Set +18, and Verdict Set is over 99k ecash each
New upgrades won’t do **** to the prices of these other items.
Also Magical Tali and Walters +10 has been said already will be coming in the future, these will be insanely expensive.

If you think all you need is Upg to compete with the top players in pvp you are very very misguided and don’t realize how much gear it takes.


If they release new upgs or not it doesn’t change much.
If you want to be top you have to spend literally thousands of dollars.
If not be happy in bottom/middle or don’t play the game.

There are certain classes that can make it in pvp without upgs.
Avenger with Ultimate skill and opa katar can 100% kill anyone with Upg as long as the rest of their gear is on an even level, which still costs thousands

Edit: I’m not saying they shouldn’t sell 4.0. But I am saying a lot you guys think Upg sale will solve all your problems but you don’t realize how much everything else costs also.

This game is P2W, has always been P2W, and will ALWAYS be P2W.

Dont need your explanation dude, people already know that, all they want is for the release of new upgrade in game as simple as that. Why you keep telling us a story that is not relevant to the topic. Would you think people only want a new upgrade so they can Competent in other player maybe its one of the main reason, but Majority of people here want upgrade so they can farm on new map ex Abyss, and beside they want something new in game. your playing safe in this conversation but obviously your one of the Rohan god that have stock tons of upgrade and you afraid the release of new one will depreciate the value of your upgrade.

[chamores]

A lot of you guys cry for upgs bc you think if you have an Upg also you will have a chance.
There are many other items that a fully geared character needs to be OP and all of them cost a **** ton of money.

Magical Tali, Walters, Verdicts Set, Opa/Abyss Armor, Trans Guarder, Abso Set +18

Each of these have similar cost to an upg, Some even more, Abso Set +18, and Verdict Set is over 99k ecash each
New upgrades won’t do **** to the prices of these other items.
Also Magical Tali and Walters +10 has been said already will be coming in the future, these will be insanely expensive.

If you think all you need is Upg to compete with the top players in pvp you are very very misguided and don’t realize how much gear it takes.


If they release new upgs or not it doesn’t change much.
If you want to be top you have to spend literally thousands of dollars.
If not be happy in bottom/middle or don’t play the game.

There are certain classes that can make it in pvp without upgs.
Avenger with Ultimate skill and opa katar can 100% kill anyone with Upg as long as the rest of their gear is on an even level, which still costs thousands

Edit: I’m not saying they shouldn’t sell 4.0. But I am saying a lot you guys think Upg sale will solve all your problems but you don’t realize how much everything else costs also.

This game is P2W, has always been P2W, and will ALWAYS be P2W.

you dont have to educate us about the game i know this game is p2w . you think not selling upgrade anymore can solve the problem, idiot as ever where was your brain as long upgrade weapon exist the complain of ppl continues.

[thatniqqa41]

idiot as ever where was your brain as long upgrade weapon exist the complain of ppl continues.

Yes you idiot derp derp
Even with 4.0 the complain of ppl continues watch and see lol

[Kamui0924]

Yes you idiot derp derp
Even with 4.0 the complain of ppl continues watch and see lol

How about putting a Crit rate Cap on dhan is that not a good idea like example 35% is the cap for dhan more than crit rate on that wont considered, this is the true nerf on dhan

[chamores]

Yes you idiot derp derp
Even with 4.0 the complain of ppl continues watch and see lol

most of the complainant are new beginer every month new beginer come and play , but after learning there is upgrade weapon and the price is insane high in em then the new ppl will start complaining bout the upgrade weapon. all new ppl wants is upgrade sale in im it was a dream for us to wield upgrade weap in affordable price like u get them before.

[thatniqqa41]

most of the complainant are new beginer every month new beginer come and play , but after learning there is upgrade weapon and the price is insane high in em then the new ppl will start complaining bout the upgrade weapon. all new ppl wants is upgrade sale in im it was a dream for us to wield upgrade weap in affordable price like u get them before.

Stop assuming things about me. I was not around for upgrade sale. I know what you new people want, I am just telling you it is not so simple as that. The backbone that keeps this game running is not new ppl, it is the vets that regularly spend hundreds on the game. This is not opinion this is fact. This is why GMs haven’t released new Upg.

If they do release new ones, they will piss off many of the big spenders, AND you new guys still have issue of other items costing insane amount or 4.0 possibly not being equal to 2.0 or 3.0.

Either way this game is beyond ****ed, there is no perfect scenario, it’s too far gone, if you are waiting on the GMs to fix the game then I’m real sorry to tell you it won’t happen.

Here is a much more likely scenario which will play out:

-4.0 gets released for $150 each and all noobs are happy and vets mad
-Walters +10 and Magical Tali +10 come out and cost over 99k ecash to buy and even more to make them.
-Eventually they release even more OP Rings than chakra and screw over anyone who spent money making +21 verdict set.
-Vets spend their life savings for these new items so they can poop on the lesser spenders again
-The lesser spenders quit cuz they don’t wanna spend thousands
-The vets are bored of the game but won’t quit because they feel dumb to spend so much and quit shortly after.
-everyone logs in only for PA, at which point 90% of mains are AFK because its not fun anymore

Everybody lose except Playwith Interactive.

We end up in exact same situation as we are now, it is a rut that can not be escaped.

Try to do your best to enjoy this game as it is now, I don’t think it will last much longer.