Re: Power Arena Season 3

[dayday31416]

The equations I give is about FALSE EQUIVALENCE. But never mind the equation. It only means that ISEN and JAINUS are not the same. In other words, what is TRUE in ISEN is not necessarily TRUE in JAINUS and vice versa. Your words are futile unless you show us a video/evidence (in JAINUS of course) of what you are talking about.

"What I said it is not impossible to get TOP 1 and there is a chance to do it even it is hard but no way of 0% chance"(you said it). I'll break it down to you. When you say "IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE", the you basically mean "IT'S POSSIBLE" (compliment rule). The BURDEN OF PROOF is on you so SHOW THEM IT'S POSSIBLE.

Now enough of this.

Why not focus on the solution.

1. Your solution
"make the PA universal to everyone is make those mobs 2pt/100 pt/BOSS same with mobs 1pt in terms of pdef and mdef and the life of 2pt should be twice as 1pt and 100 pt is 100x as 1pt as well as the life of BOSS is 1,000x as 1pt. Everybody knows that all races/classes have damage in mobs 1pt."

2. shannon's solution
(I can't find it) IIRC, support class can get assist points if they are in close proximity to the DPS class they supported.

Now set aside cursing and look at the solutions objectively.

Your solution is good but there is a problem. We are still forcing support class to kill mobs to gain points. How can they support if they are busy competing with DPS class to gain points?

I have a farmer scout (I got no problem no matter what time I choose to PA)
I also have a VIT def (even if I choose to enter the last PA, It's too difficult to compete).

And please, STOP the "OH, I have a vit def in ISEN bla bla bla". As I said above. What is TRUE on ISEN is not necessarily TRUE on JAINUS.

Now shannon's solution offers more logical approach to solve the problem. IF THAT SOLUTION would be implemented. Support class can focus on supporting and still can get the necessary points required to get 12 cert. As of the moment, no other solution is presented. I thought of a solution quite similar to yours. I did not bother posting it since shannon's solution is far better than what I thought of.

vit defender can equip strength pendant accessories, melee weapon and other gears to boost melee attack for PA purposes only. If you use gears intended only as supports you will be ****ed anytime in PA.

Yes it is true that you can't support and gain points at the same time...You don't need to support those high DPS Class in PA because they can gain points anytime they want to. Everybody wants 10 pts in PA and will do it by yourself because the DPS class you support will not give it to you the required points you need and make it harder for you because of competition.

Yes there is flaw in my suggestion but it is just simple to minimize the problem in PA, when you add another complicated suggestion it will add another problem too. Gaining points of supports too near the proximity of DPS will raise the problem of ALTS to be abused. EXAMPLE If I have DPS Char and 4 ALTS in our side, of course i will join my 4 alts with my DPS char in PARTY. My 4 alts will eventually gain points easily only just to follow my high DPS character. You solve 1 problem but you add 3 problems this thing should be avoided.

[petebebz]

vit defender can equip strength pendant accessories, melee weapon and other gears to boost melee attack for PA purposes only. If you use gears intended only as supports you will be ****ed anytime in PA.

EXACTLY!!

Now you're making a very good point. Why force support class to equip DPS gear if he intends to support? Can you see the problem now?

So we need a SOLUTION, right?

I think we're done here. What took you so long?

[RBNXD]

If devs are making everything party oriented why not make PA party oriented to?
Like everyone in the same party get the same amount of kills prices oriented but only the one that actually did the kills gets the highest kills in PA ranking.

[petebebz]

If devs are making everything party oriented why not make PA party oriented to?
Like everyone in the same party get the same amount of kills prices oriented but only the one that actually did the kills gets the highest kills in PA ranking.

I agree with you. It makes the PA more tactical.

Playing SOLO gives you a disadvantage if you encounter a solid party. Playing self-party (using main + alts) still gives you a disadvantage if you encounter a solid and active party since your passive alts will be demolished quickly.

Now lets combined it with dayday's solution to reduce the defense of mobs but increase the HP so it can be killed by any class. WHOA! We have a brand new PA more INTERESTING than the existing one.

We can collaborate here to achieve a more appropriate solution.

And NO dayday, I'm not shannon's alt. Did I ever call you a "retard" or an "idiot"? Because I know you are not.

[dayday31416]

I agree with you. It makes the PA more tactical.

Playing SOLO gives you a disadvantage if you encounter a solid party. Playing self-party (using main + alts) still gives you a disadvantage if you encounter a solid and active party since your passive alts will be demolished quickly.

Now lets combined it with dayday's solution to reduce the defense of mobs but increase the HP so it can be killed by any class. WHOA! We have a brand new PA more INTERESTING than the existing one.

We can collaborate here to achieve a more appropriate solution.

And NO dayday, I'm not shannon's alt. Did I ever call you a "retard" or an "idiot"? Because I know you are not.

Sorry bro I'm not referring to you, I know that you are not Shannon nor Sunnyangel and sniper. You are way better than him.

[petebebz]

Sorry bro I'm not referring to you, I know that you are not Shannon nor Sunnyangel and sniper. You are way better than him.

I'm not better than both of them. Sunny and Shannon have tremendous knowledge and passion to this game. If I have an urgent question I never hesitate to ask shannon for I know I can get a legit answer (that's when he still owns Arctic). The way you play at ISEN, I'm sure you are great too.

If we respect each other here we can have a better community and maybe, just maybe, GM puts more attention to forums and speed things up a little bit.

[shannon11]

3. Whenever your side loses you gain 4 torn cert fragments, meaning if you lose 3x you get 3x4 = 12 torn fragments

I will correct this Idiot because he is always giving false information.



The 1st PA you attend if your side loses and did not make 10 pts. you will receive nothing but 4 torn to those have 10 pts.
The 2nd PA you attend if your side loses again and did not make 10 pts still no torn to receive. But 4 torn to those have 10 pts and did not get torn in previous PA. Bear in mind that to those who got 4 torn in Previous PA even you got of 10 pts, you won't receive anything in 2nd PA.
Because in 3rd PA win or lose in score (3rd lose consider a win), with and without 10 pts you will receve 8 torn unless if you did not get torn in 1st and 2nd PA and you got 10 pts in 3rd PA you will receive 12 torn. No one can get more than 12 torn per day.
Again this will not applicable to those alts in same account because whatever you do max of only 8 torn per day you can get. Only the highest level character in same account has the privileged to get the max of 12 torn per day.

And no way you can get 3 x 4 torn in PA as mentioned by the Idiot! Because in last PA you attend with 10 points or not you will receive 8 torn.

Your explanation probably doesn't make it more ''clear'' for most people who are not familliar with the system. The point is you have to attend a max of 3 PA's a day and get 10 points in those and you'll obtain 12 certs in total. Your explanation is correct but it's trivial and doesn't really help anything because you still have to get the 10p and still have to attend a max of 3 Pas, no matter how you devide the certs obtained inbetween.

If I would go into detail with every suggestion I make or explanation I give, people who are not familliar with this game, will lose me half way. Thus I oftenly choose for the more direct and easy approach.

You can hate on me as much as you want (I actually enjoy it because it makes you look stupid lmao). You still have a lot to learn about this game as well as about how to explain things to people.

Seems like I'm always a step ahead of you (which isn't really hard lmao). Maybe it's time for you to discuss some amongst your fellow r3tards before you join the big booois

I'm not better than both of them. Sunny and Shannon have tremendous knowledge and passion to this game. If I have an urgent question I never hesitate to ask shannon for I know I can get a legit answer (that's when he still owns Arctic). The way you play at ISEN, I'm sure you are great too.

If we respect each other here we can have a better community and maybe, just maybe, GM puts more attention to forums and speed things up a little bit.

'''Respect'' that's a virtue that's earned. Considering the amount of retards and toxic idiots in this game and on this forum, for me, nobody deserves respect unless he/she proves to me otherwise.

[AchanClub]

I agree with you. It makes the PA more tactical.

Playing SOLO gives you a disadvantage if you encounter a solid party. Playing self-party (using main + alts) still gives you a disadvantage if you encounter a solid and active party since your passive alts will be demolished quickly.

Now lets combined it with dayday's solution to reduce the defense of mobs but increase the HP so it can be killed by any class. WHOA! We have a brand new PA more INTERESTING than the existing one.

We can collaborate here to achieve a more appropriate solution.

And NO dayday, I'm not shannon's alt. Did I ever call you a "retard" or an "idiot"? Because I know you are not.

+1 to this or else i never play support anymore.

i'm sick too on people who use their naked alt to feed their priest, cus when i kill these alts, they shout, fk off.. something called reis mad cus i killed his alts annd he cant feed his priest lol

[D4rius]

[walkingdeadnyc]

The Game hasn't been good since they took away DFFS from dekans