Welcome to ISEN 99% P2P

[ShadowAce]

I am still not a fan of forging its not modular and the only way it can scale with powercreep is to become obsolete so you can start all over again. Gadwin83 has a point with there being nothing to do but farming for drops is just not something I am into at all anymore and I would rather see rewards for participating things like events daily quests acheivements pvp scenarios (like PA but with a better selection on the scenarios). I wont spoil any of the ideas I have to make this game better but if the developers hear me out I know I can get people playing the game whenever they can and not just for a couple hours a day.

[Gadwin83]

I am still not a fan of forging its not modular and the only way it can scale with powercreep is to become obsolete so you can start all over again.

First of all, forged weapons are modular.

modular - of or pertaining to a module or a modulus.
module - a separable component, frequently one that is interchangeable with others, for assembly into units of differing size, complexity, or function.

Your modules in the case of forged weapons would be your 4 base items, your option stones, and your accessory, so please, stop repeating that stupid line about things being modular when you don't even know what you are saying. Just because you repeat an untruth enough doesn't make it true.

All you are describing is that craft weapons have the advantage of not being permanent...if they go a little overboard on spirit stones its not like an upgrade, where its like whoops, we put them out there, and now we're stuck with them forever.

And as far as glacials not scaling with power creep unless you make them obsolete...again, not true. % values on glacials scale fine...some may even argue a little too well...you know, like the devs, who wanted to ram option limits down our throats.

Option stones scale fine...but with two exceptions. The first being when you compare glacials to craft weapons. Making a crit glacial for example is just stupid now considering you can get a craft with as much or more crit, and also toss speed and dd on it. The second being when they release shiny option stones. Hindsight being 20/20...they would have been way better off just releasing a glacial upgrade stone. Toss it in the recycle system with a glacial and it adds 10dd and 8-10 dual leech. That way at least it would have been a boost to all varieties of existing glacials...nobody would have had to reforge from scratch, and crit/wa would have gotten a boost as well but only in terms of survivability...I don't think anyone wants to see shiny weapon attack stones on a str dhan lol.

If they went about it the right way...they could slowly introduce power creep to glacials as well but not in a way that overnight you suddenly have to reforge everything. For example...allow component pieces 3 stats instead of 2. Are you going to suddenly reforge your arsenal because maybe you can gain an extra 100 dex if you rolled 4 tri statted pieces to your liking? Probably not. Is it an incentive to keep farming? Yup. Is it an incentive to reforge...yup. All they really need to do with glacial power creep if its something they actually give attention to is to watch the % values carefully. If they increase the number of mods the base items could load, and slowly raised the max values of hard number mods only(not the % mods) as they introduce higher level mobs/drop areas to the game. Even if the power gamers were to keep reforging...well good...the game makes some money, and over time we develop a market of gear that isn't top tier, but its great for new players who want something cheap to check the game out with, or for veteran players who want to test out a new build without too heavy of an investment of resources to get an idea of if its a build they'd like to pursue or try something else.

Gadwin83 has a point with there being nothing to do but farming for drops is just not something I am into at all anymore and I would rather see rewards for participating things like events daily quests acheivements pvp scenarios (like PA but with a better selection on the scenarios).

Variety is key. If I'm logged in farming and an event pops up...hey guess what, I have two activities to chose from.

Sure its easy to say you don't like farming, but even if your favorite thing to do in the game is to troll around and rpk and annoy people...making farming pointless pretty much means you end up with way less people to rpk and annoy. Its like this game simply doesn't want any actual free players or small budget players to enjoy it, when in reality these players are what keep the big spenders around.

I wont spoil any of the ideas I have to make this game better but if the developers hear me out I know I can get people playing the game whenever they can and not just for a couple hours a day.

Thanks, haven't had a laugh that good in a long time.

[Sunraven]

I am still not a fan of forging its not modular and the only way it can scale with powercreep is to become obsolete so you can start all over again. Gadwin83 has a point with there being nothing to do but farming for drops is just not something I am into at all anymore and I would rather see rewards for participating things like events daily quests acheivements pvp scenarios (like PA but with a better selection on the scenarios). I wont spoil any of the ideas I have to make this game better but if the developers hear me out I know I can get people playing the game whenever they can and not just for a couple hours a day.

**** your stupid obsession over power creep. It does not need to exist. *headdesk*

[eikniwt]

**** your stupid obsession over power creep. It does not need to exist. *headdesk*

I like you a lot.

I figured up what it would cost to keep spirit stones up for a priest to pvp on and it'd cost $47 a month.... Just for spirit stones. No 7s, costume, etc. Why would I want to spend that much when I could play GW2 or Aion for free and everything you need to have a competitive char can be got in game? Heck, I'd rather pay a $20 a month subscription fee than trying to pay to win lol

Actually the whole stuff is around $50/60 per month for a templar, cost you can reduce by doing PAs. You get 7d armor stones by attending PA. But to get them completely free, you'd need to run 7 alts in PA, which mean you'd have to x7 log and level them chars to 90, which would cost you a bunch in scrolls.

But doing so, you'd just have to pay for 7s (899 ecash x 7) and weapon stones on chimera (around $20 per month)

[eikniwt]

You don't get it. It implies that we no-life that game. No one is such a nerd like you strellan, we all have our lives and we don't live by and through rohan.

See, I didn't log yesterday, its like 4 days I missed PA because I had other stuff to do. I just logged 1h before ruler so we could have our pvp fun for it (was fun eventho I bugged and had to relog when raler was almost dead ggwp).

To answer your question strellan : What is there left to do once you have everything?

- pvp. Winning tsbs. Winning pvp fights. Winning bossdrops to gear people (its a neverending thing). No one care about getting gears or getting powercreep. Powercreep was the reason why everyone left jin. Not only we saw what it did to Jin, but we also saw how bad was p2w game. Everyone had +12 feathers, +12 clubs or higher, and everyone was hitting 40k to 80k regs on characters that had 100 to 120k hp. Totally unplayable.

[zyklo22]

Key point: PWI are simply putting resources into this ISEN server when they could be using it for further balancing Jin and other sub servers in Ran. I thought it'd be fun at first but clearly it's going to end Jin like to be found too tedious again. What a waste.

[ShadowAce]

Bottom line: PWI are simply putting resources into this ISEN server when they could be using it for further balancing Jin and other sub servers in Ran. I thought it'd be fun at first but clearly it's going to end Jin like to be found too tedious again. What a waste.

This is not actually the case sir. To balance those servers you would need help from korea. Isen server is a server that is easily balanced because it revolves around crafting and has none of the powercreep items (yet). We will see and hopefully atzigan makes a thread to talk about how to balance ran/jin and indicates what they can/cant/want/dont want to do.

[Gadwin83]

Key point: PWI are simply putting resources into this ISEN server when they could be using it for further balancing Jin and other sub servers in Ran. I thought it'd be fun at first but clearly it's going to end Jin like to be found too tedious again. What a waste.

I can proudly say, I've been saying this since the start.

[EaglePhoenix]

Spirit stones are too expensive - looking at over $21/month without being fully socketed and that's just for one char. Granted you can 'win' a few, but apparently they last only 3 days and can fail besides.


I've just bought a 7 days hp leech stone for 129 rps and it failed >.>
I don't feel like gambling on these spirits as well..

[Sunraven]

Spirit stones are too expensive - looking at over $21/month without being fully socketed and that's just for one char. Granted you can 'win' a few, but apparently they last only 3 days and can fail besides.


I've just bought a 7 days hp leech stone for 129 rps and it failed >.>
I don't feel like gambling on these spirits as well..

I figured up what it would cost to keep spirit stones up for a priest to pvp on and it'd cost $47 a month.... Just for spirit stones. No 7s, costume, etc. Why would I want to spend that much when I could play GW2 or Aion for free and everything you need to have a competitive char can be got in game? Heck, I'd rather pay a $20 a month subscription fee than trying to pay to win lol