I actually saw a lot more class variety in ahkma then I see in upper, and pvp was a lot more balanced fighting other noobs in ahkma then the stupidity of what its like in Gratt. Maybe things are that much different on Ran but on Jin its near impossible to get enough hp to tank a dffs from a good dk, you'd need 40k+ hp then pot quick to tank the 20k+ ffs following, then be able to drop his 150k+ hp, of which there's a chance for the dk to pot or health funnel. That makes pretty much everyone not a vit build a 1 shot on Jin.
That guardian your talking about must have been fighting two retarded/massively under geared/low level dekans if they can't figure out how to nuke that guardian at the same time, use toxic pot so he can't pot, hit him with dark spell, or at least some stuns, and wait for their ffs cd's to reset, or worse case scenario if dark spell is not viable because mobs are hitting the guardian, and the guardian has rohas up, they still have dragon skin and a stun break to help them avoid/mitigate combo damage, plus pots and the ability to health funnel themselves or their friend if need be. Please sir, don't try to belittle me by giving examples that are either 2 total noobs with **** gear/low level that have no clue what to do fighting someone pimped out, or if that isn't the case then it is obviously a flat out bull**** lie.
Vit fish and templars need a nerf, are you denying that?