Need some input : Premium Weapons

[Deathwatcherr]

So premium weapons that expire? hmm could work, good for people like myself who cant afford to spend my lifesavings to keep up in pvp,

however....makig permanent weapons bound are just plain stupid, as people already said, making even more items in this game bound is just really dumb. dont eliminate the option to trade, buy or sell your items ingame or on the EM, if i remember correcly the EM was one of Rohans flagships back when the game launched cause few games had something similiar then, ofcourse PWI ****ed it up with taxes and e-cash and so on but dont make the **** worse by making even more items bound,

UPPGRADES FOR ALL, RICH OR POOR, FOR RP OR INGAME CURRENCY, FROM ITEM MALL OR FROM A PLAYER!

The End

[PenguinJoe]

the problem with trade-able premium weapons (I am NOT calling them Upgrades because they would be pre-forged) is the hideous expense of them. You guys are asking for the same or better stats/properties than current upgrades. If those werte to go on sale for the prices I recommended AND they are tradeable, the folks that have paid uber money forf their weapons would get uber pissed and leave. You know -- the big spenders that have been keeping this game alive? The ones that have invested hundreds of dollars on their weapons?

The ONLY way I can see for premium weapons being offered here is IF they are bound to the character they were purchased for. Just like mounts and costumes. The only way those upgrade owners wont' get pissed off and leave is if these cheaper, bound weapons are somehow inferior to their expensive weapons - the upgrade weapons we have been told over and over will NOT be sold ever again. It might be worth considering the temporary premium weapons having equivelent stats to the current upgrades, but I would not personally consider the permanent ones to be that stronk - that would piss on the folks that spent huge money making their upgrades..

This thread is not about whether or not bound premium weapons should be offered. It is about what stats and options should they carry. Should they match current upgrades? Should they be similar to the old Epics? How will those stats affect the classes as they stand now? How might they affect those classes excpected to be changes in the foreseeable future?

[ronaldo01]

the problem with trade-able premium weapons (I am NOT calling them Upgrades because they would be pre-forged) is the hideous expense of them. You guys are asking for the same or better stats/properties than current upgrades. If those werte to go on sale for the prices I recommended AND they are tradeable, the folks that have paid uber money forf their weapons would get uber pissed and leave. You know -- the big spenders that have been keeping this game alive? The ones that have invested hundreds of dollars on their weapons?

The ONLY way I can see for premium weapons being offered here is IF they are bound to the character they were purchased for. Just like mounts and costumes. The only way those upgrade owners wont' get pissed off and leave is if these cheaper, bound weapons are somehow inferior to their expensive weapons - the upgrade weapons we have been told over and over will NOT be sold ever again. It might be worth considering the temporary premium weapons having equivelent stats to the current upgrades, but I would not personally consider the permanent ones to be that stronk - that would piss on the folks that spent huge money making their upgrades..

This thread is not about whether or not bound premium weapons should be offered. It is about what stats and options should they carry. Should they match current upgrades? Should they be similar to the old Epics? How will those stats affect the classes as they stand now? How might they affect those classes excpected to be changes in the foreseeable future?

bound items getting overpriced is a risk, but it can easly be prevented by not selling uppgrades only 1 time a year lol, supply and demand, thats the logic, if an item is only obtaineble 1 time a year ofcourse people gonna sell it for overprice rest of the year,

So insted PWI can either make regular uppgrades sales or put these premium weapons on item mall permanently, but to carebear with the people who bought the uppgrades way back is just stupid, they would have to accept that there are new players in this game, and even more importantly for PWI, new players with MONEY TO SPEND, which an uppgrade/premium weapon sale will show,

Sell the darn uppgrades a couple of times a year or month insted of just 1 to keep the inflation of prices on unbound weapons down, and let them be unbound so people who wanna reroll a char can easly sell or give away the weapon and get himself a new one from item mall,

[RBNXD]

This new weapons should have this stats on all of them. But for some classes that stats could be boosted(Scouts and Giants).

All Stats: 150
Atk Spd: 20%(Could be boosted depending on the weapon)
Crit Rate: 20%(Could be boosted depending on the weapon)
Mobility: 20%
HP Absorption: 10%
MP Absorption: 10%
HP: 100%
Melee/Ranged/Magic Attack: 60%
Damage Drop: 60%
Reinforced Level: +15

A weapon like that should be enough to solo any Mirror Dung with the right Accs and Armor ofc.
I personaly would buy something like that for each of my characters just to level them in the Mirror dungeons or R5(Ik exp sucks xD)

[brujohechizero]

This new weapons should have this stats on all of them. But for some classes that stats could be boosted(Scouts and Giants).

All Stats: 150
Atk Spd: 20%(Could be boosted depending on the weapon)
Crit Rate: 20%(Could be boosted depending on the weapon)
Mobility: 20%
HP Absorption: 10%
MP Absorption: 10%
HP: 100%
Melee/Ranged/Magic Attack: 60%
Damage Drop: 60%
Reinforced Level: +15

A weapon like that should be enough to solo any Mirror Dung with the right Accs and Armor ofc.
I personaly would buy something like that for each of my characters just to level them in the Mirror dungeons or R5(Ik exp sucks xD)

if the wep have stats like that ill buy it but... no bound wep

[kenji91]

if the wep have stats like that ill buy it but... no bound wep

Agreed, the stats are nice and not too much and i like the expiring weapon idea, Non-tradeble weapons is a big no no, especially if the weapons is permanent, Obviously they want to be able to sell you 1 weapon for player or character insted of you passing a weapon to your alt or guildmates,

or selling it for a cheaper price on em when you change race or get a better weapon, still....bound weapons and anything else thats permanent should not be bound, like DeathWatcher pointed out, Rohan does not need more items that blocks off the ability to trade or make it non profitable to do so, e-cash and the rp tax have done enough in that corner already

[sunnyangel]

Agreed, the stats are nice and not too much and i like the expiring weapon idea, Non-tradeble weapons is a big no no, especially if the weapons is permanent, Obviously they want to be able to sell you 1 weapon for player or character insted of you passing a weapon to your alt or guildmates,

or selling it for a cheaper price on em when you change race or get a better weapon, still....bound weapons and anything else thats permanent should not be bound, like DeathWatcher pointed out, Rohan does not need more items that blocks off the ability to trade or make it non profitable to do so, e-cash and the rp tax have done enough in that corner already

Non tradable is great IMO there is a heavy investment in 1 character with titles and transcendence lvls. I would prefer non tradable but bankable tho so I can move it around between chars internally.

[Deathwatcherr]

make the weapons bound to " please " the players who have been op with their uppgrades the last years? uuuum nope, aint buying it, just as they spent all that money on their upgprades new people will drop money on the premium ones, permanent or not, and to be able to sell or trade an item you dont need or want to make money of should NEVER been blocked in any shape, way or form,

PWI have been killing the exchange market and item mall enough already with taxes and e-cash crap, so the last thing we need is more things to prevent players from selling and trading with eachother, for rp or crones..whatever they prefeer

[Danno]

you just completely ignored what he said.... and kept typing.

[Danno]

Benefits of weapons being bound:
#1. They can sell them for half to a third ($80??? that's hella cheap) of what they could if they were unbound.

Benefits of only paying 1/3 the price of a hot off the anvil +0 upgrade weapon:
1. When/If you decide to change what class you want to main, you buy another weapon because you only spent 1/3 of the price...
2. When you want to put one on a noir/rumir...its already gonna be bound...
3. When you go try to grind in mirrors, log your support chars that each have 100% hp and 60% dd weapons with 120 all stats on them...see if it helps *sarcasm*... (it'll help)
4. When you decide your first three choices were not as fun as you wanted them to be, you still wont be close to paying the current inflated price for upgrades of $400+

Negatives:
1. they cost money, any amount at all, not free,
2. not able to bring them to show-and-tell at your larp club meetings
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n. you cant get a return on the "investment".

if they are unbound then it wont make sense to give them an $80 pricetag because fewer units will sell due to the ability to trade. given that fewer individual weapons will sell, to make the same amount (in theory) you increase the price and that's what you're asking for when you ask for them to be unbound. based on it being said that there will be no more upgrade sales, this option is hella professional. stats that rbnxd put up are somthing i'd pay $80 for and im hoping that its an onyx version, only thing i'd change is make them +24, just for the lolz (please dont argue against them being +24, im just kidding (but really, make them +24)).