Humm I never went through any of that... :-\ But then again I have darkii muted half the time in vent. Cause he always asks me if I wanna see his skill tree. To which I say no its too short and mute him.
Then again I am currently guildless. However I never had to try to join forever. I was simply added. All the times I have been in the guild. **** back when I was MashiroKuna I was asked to join by Qndy. :-\ Since then I have had an open invitation to the guild(s). All I have to do is pm qndy to get someone to come invite me.