Magic attack dekans

[soulholder]

My guess is it's a typo if it's 10%. It's actually better if it's physical damage because mdef in Origins is massively higher than pdef.

I'm unsure this will still really work for PvP, though. Attack force values are likely going to be around a quarter of what we had in R:BF from the fact that str/dex/int have .6/1/1 scaling rather than 4x across the board. We'll see if it gets fixed post-beta. I'm hoping it does, as int dekan is fun.

[SpiderQueen]

HD is true dmg it always hits the same and it claims its 1xx% of magic force when its ~10%-15 or lower like i said values have been messed up big time

[DeadMansEnd]

Sofar i cant see why you say dmg values are 10%?

i have 618 melee and 668 Magic on my lvl 52 Int-Dekan and dmg seems to be corret allthou the Scalings are to low.

Example lvl 6 Breath 80% magic 51% Melee : 534 + 315 = 849 and i hit for nearly exactly that with Breath. The Scaling is to low thats for sure, it should be more like 300% magic and 120% melee or something.
Other Problem is the fukked up Skill-Translation i guess because as you see in the example above it hits for what they state BUT Descriptions says that the 80% MA and 51% ME are ADDTIONAL so should add to your Magic Attack.
So 668 PLUS 849 = 1517 that would be what skill should do.

Health Drain does Definatly do Magic Dmg^^ else i wouldnt hit more dmg on a Defender with 500 Mdef vs a Dekan with 900 Mdef.

[SpiderQueen]

Okey let me drop it simple obviously you struggle to see the problem so let me explain like you have a syndrome.

HD does true dmg(aka its not getting affected by dd/mdef/pdef etc) so it always hits the same (and its based on magic but when it ignores everything you can say its true dmg unless you have magic reflect skill which would nullify the dmg thats the only thing that can affect it, unless they completely changed it which i doubt since the core of the skill is obviously there, but it still wouldnt explain the missleading huge numbers differences )
Why its wrong:Example So you have 117 magic attack HD says lvx 114% from your magic attack restoring 107% of your final dmg as hp(the description is bullshiet) but you dont need to be genius to see 114% that : 114% of 117 attack is more than 117 dmg to mobs or something close to that number- but in reality you hit 14dmg what this result tells you ?

[DeadMansEnd]

Okey let me drop it simple obviously you struggle to see the problem so let me explain like you have a syndrome.

HD does true dmg(aka its not getting affected by dd/mdef/pdef etc) so it always hits the same (and its based on magic but when it ignores everything you can say its true dmg unless you have magic reflect skill which would nullify the dmg thats the only thing that can affect it, unless they completely changed it which i doubt since the core of the skill is obviously there, but it still wouldnt explain the missleading huge numbers differences )
Why its wrong:Example So you have 117 magic attack HD says lvx 114% from your magic attack restoring 107% of your final dmg as hp(the description is bullshiet) but you dont need to be genius to see 114% that : 114% of 117 attack is more than 117 dmg to mobs or something close to that number- but in reality you hit 14dmg what this result tells you ?

First of all your Attitude, rly man work on it. I state actually Value from ingame Dmg i encounter and you wanna threat me like a have a "syndrom"?

In my Test HD was effected by the Mpdef of the Target no idea, where you got the opposite impression.
And for what your 14 dmg with a lvl 1 skill with 117 magic attack tells me? That you prolly hit on a lvl 20 mob with a lvl 1 Weapon equiped with a Lvl 1 Skill. I stated above what my actually ingame dmg vs mobs of my Lvl are with a Weapon of my LvL. If your Values came back this low maybe you just didnt consider the condtions right? I mean when i go Inter with my STR-Dekan i hit 2-3k on mobs normal in stage 1-4 but soon we hit Stage 5, boom Mobs suddenly get 1-2k. Because there is and will allways be a scaling with the Weapons you use and with the LvL a mobs has.

ALSO if you try to answere do it with reasonable Amount of Respect, i dont start calling you a "full scale brain dead moron" just because you make a statement, so keep it friendly.

[SpiderQueen]

Even if it did get changed, it wouldnt say 100% of your magic attack and hit 10% of total value which make no sense whatsoever you dont need to be genius to figure that out
and you dont forget "this new rohan" is based on RBF same engine same systems same everything with "tweaks" and introduced what few changes one new system, and thats it, its not a new game

[EaglePhoenix]

Even if it did get changed, it wouldnt say 100% of your magic attack and hit 10% of total value which make no sense whatsoever you dont need to be genius to figure that out
and you dont forget "this new rohan" is based on RBF same engine same systems same everything with "tweaks" and introduced what few changes one new system, and thats it, its not a new game

Wouldn't it?

It says 50% of stats are given when you use an off-hand dagger, reality is that it's still 30% like in RBF.
I'm just saying.

[PenguinJoe]

Even if it did get changed, it wouldnt say 100% of your magic attack and hit 10% of total value which make no sense whatsoever you dont need to be genius to figure that out
and you dont forget "this new rohan" is based on RBF same engine same systems same everything with "tweaks" and introduced what few changes one new system, and thats it, its not a new game

The map server engine calls out to dlls to handle the damage calculations. The damage calcs are not exactly in the geomind engine itself. And yes the devs in Korea (guess where Origin came from?) can change them. They did so with the Templar's blunt damage calcs and they have done so with the dekan's ffs/dffs/wffs. Not all damage calculation parameters are sitting in the skill.bin file. And Origin is not simply a tweakup of the bins, gems, uis and maps. There are some huge changes here that can't be done in pservers unless they have Yurneroo's depth knowledge (and remember even HE is making changes to how the damage mechanics work and he does NOT have the map server source code.

So don't assume that you know how the qame damage mechanics work here. You don't and I know of only one person that even has a clue how they do.