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    Something a little on/off topic...

    I was out on ExtremeTech today and found this cute cake analogy of the forced update provision of Microsoft's Windows 10 EULA and the "Get Windows 10" trojan widget they install on windows 7 & 8 machines in their comments to a story:

    Eric • 18 hours ago

    "I don't get why everyone is bashing MS with Windows 10, I work in IT and I think it is a great OS, steps above 7 and 8."

    Because people are different, and where they work is irrelevant.

    I don't get why people don't see the EULA as the #1 reason to avoid Windows 10. But as I said, we're all different. Regardless of any technical merit or lack thereof that it offers, I will never accept its EULA. Never.


    close • 7 hours ago

    Actually they're not even bashing the OS. It's the tactic of bullying people into it that's the problem.

    If I offer you cake and you refuse so I show up every day at your door, your window, sleeping on your couch waiting for you to come home and take the cake or even trying to stuff the cake in your face while you sleep you would find it less amusing.

    It's a good cake though . You should take it.
    Kevin • 5 hours ago

    But if you eat the cake you must agree to also eat all future cake products we make for you (updates and likely future OS releases). We'll be using your car to deliver those goods to everyone in the neighborhood (torrented distribution). We'll also being collecting information about any baked goods you buy elsewhere and how you eat your baked goods. Want to bake your own cake? Just be sure it's not in violation of our cake rights management monitor we've now installed on your oven. Lastly should you not agree to any and all future terms for eating our forced cake regimen, your oven, refrigerator and microwave will be rendered inoperable until you find another baked goods provider. We hope you like pie (linux) because that's pretty much your only option.
    Moral to this story: If you are on win 10, you will get 10580 shoved down your throat whether you want it or not. If you are on a legal copy of windows 7 or 8+, you will at some point hace Windows 10 shoved down your throat whether you want it or not unless you do some tricky stuff to block the "Get Windows 10" annoyware. Damned if you do - damned if you don't.
    Last edited by PenguinJoe; 12-17-2015 at 07:06 AM.

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    Best thing to do: Do not get too excited over Windows operating systems. Ahaha. As long as they are still having support over the old OS(s) you can still stick with it.
    I'm noob and I know it. LOL. SO WHAT?

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    My biggest gripe with win10 is the following:

    - MS reserves the right to delete any software on your computer (whether or not illegaly obtained, paid for or whatsoever), whenever they deem fit and think it might cause stability issues with their OS. They will also not notify you if they did so and you will just one day be searching through your shortcuts, wondering where that program went to. Ie.: GPU-Z, etc. ..

    When complaining about that, they will just point you to the EULA, which you did agree to without even reading.

    - After updating, they tend to reset all privacy options you so carefuly and explicitly put in place the first time which, albeit, takes quite a bit of time if you do it thoroughly.


    I am not upgrading to win10 anytime soon and am luckily not being reminded of it every other start-up, due to my own placed settings in my current win7. I may update once dx12 is out there and working/supported, and then only after there have been enough win10 privacy/settings workarounds released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix View Post
    My biggest gripe with win10 is the following:

    - MS reserves the right to delete any software on your computer (whether or not illegaly obtained, paid for or whatsoever), whenever they deem fit and think it might cause stability issues with their OS. They will also not notify you if they did so and you will just one day be searching through your shortcuts, wondering where that program went to. Ie.: GPU-Z, etc. ..

    When complaining about that, they will just point you to the EULA, which you did agree to without even reading.

    - After updating, they tend to reset all privacy options you so carefuly and explicitly put in place the first time which, albeit, takes quite a bit of time if you do it thoroughly.


    I am not upgrading to win10 anytime soon and am luckily not being reminded of it every other start-up, due to my own placed settings in my current win7. I may update once dx12 is out there and working/supported, and then only after there have been enough win10 privacy/settings workarounds released.
    Yeah, I've read about that as well and people are really pissed off about it. That's why I won't be upgrading my Win 8 OS anytime soon. Simply put: If it's not broken, don't fix it. If your current OS and setting works for you then save yourself from all the trouble and keep it that way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix View Post
    My biggest gripe with win10 is the following:

    - MS reserves the right to delete any software on your computer (whether or not illegaly obtained, paid for or whatsoever), whenever they deem fit and think it might cause stability issues with their OS. They will also not notify you if they did so and you will just one day be searching through your shortcuts, wondering where that program went to. Ie.: GPU-Z, etc. ..

    When complaining about that, they will just point you to the EULA, which you did agree to without even reading.

    - After updating, they tend to reset all privacy options you so carefuly and explicitly put in place the first time which, albeit, takes quite a bit of time if you do it thoroughly.


    I am not upgrading to win10 anytime soon and am luckily not being reminded of it every other start-up, due to my own placed settings in my current win7. I may update once dx12 is out there and working/supported, and then only after there have been enough win10 privacy/settings workarounds released.
    This is why I didn't upgrade mine to win10. Hope they'll fix this ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlindMansWife View Post
    It works with windows 10 with no problem.Sorry you have updated from windows 7 or 8.1.My computer bought two weeks ago came with windows 10.So yeah sorry about your luck
    But does your "Abour WIndows" show you on build 10582?


    Quote Originally Posted by Holmez View Post
    Well yeah. So its safe to stay on win 7 or win 8/8.1.. INCA corp are working to get the fix anyways... LOL damn microsoft ahahahahha
    Quote Originally Posted by AliceinUnderland View Post
    This is why I didn't upgrade mine to win10. Hope they'll fix this ASAP.
    The source of my earlier post is from an article where it seems to be that Microsoft is taking the hard line of forcing the windows 10 update on those with earlier (legal) windows versions. Including tactics like downloading it into a hidden directory on your C drive without permission and sneaking in the install as a part of the usual innocent updates. As I mentioned there are ways around it and if you are using a corporate or cracked Win 7/8/8.1 you'll be left alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinJoe View Post
    But does your "Abour WIndows" show you on build 10582?






    The source of my earlier post is from an article where it seems to be that Microsoft is taking the hard line of forcing the windows 10 update on those with earlier (legal) windows versions. Including tactics like downloading it into a hidden directory on your C drive without permission and sneaking in the install as a part of the usual innocent updates. As I mentioned there are ways around it and if you are using a corporate or cracked Win 7/8/8.1 you'll be left alone.
    Here's mine.Sorry i don't share my serial number/product key.You posted your's. lol

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    What's your suggestion guys? Should I upgrade my PC to Windows 10 or should I stay on my Windows 8?
    What's the pros and cons :'(

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    Well yeah. So its safe to stay on win 7 or win 8/8.1.. INCA corp are working to get the fix anyways... LOL damn microsoft ahahahahha

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    It works with windows 10 with no problem.Sorry you have updated from windows 7 or 8.1.My computer bought two weeks ago came with windows 10.So yeah sorry about your luck
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