Quote Originally Posted by Mctwattybollox View Post
Its from the treasure chest that you need both silver and gold coins to open. I think you might be able to get it from from just the one that requires gold coins to open, but its a much lower chance. I opened 30 (silver/gold) treasure boxes recently and only 2 mud talis (13% drop rate). I don't know if I was unlucky but it used to be a much higher chance than that.

Im not sure if I've just been unlucky but also the minibosses seem to have been removed also? I've run round R5 a ton of times lately and not found a single one............. unless someone started farming them regularly lol.
You can get them from the gold chest, the minibosses no clue on best bet is to HK in one of the miniboss rooms.