Banned for buying and selling character

[EaglePhoenix]

Well yes, I do suppose if you now put up any gear at 100 rps with the title "Transfer, don't buy" - no one can legitimately buy that without getting a ban.

This is good news, though. I have this account with plenty IM stuff on it - one of my main chars is on another account zzz

[knuffl88]

It can be abused to RMT though. Set it up for low rps, set the title to "Char transfer" or so - and only the one who payed for it will buy it.
Could end funny if the seller reports the buyer anyway. Lolz.

[ronaldo01]

Going off of the content of about 95% of your posts, no more than you were. I can assure you.

Let me attempt to break this down into a grade school level of understanding for you.
Putting your char on EM is like leaving the SZ. You are no longer protected by game mechanics.
When you leave SZ, if you dont want to die, you protect yourself with armor, DD, weap, rings, etc... on EM you would protect your assets by setting a reasonable price.
Setting price at 1,111 is like leaving sz with no weap, no rings, and wearing only E.Fro armor. Sure, some people wont be able to kill you... but there will still be people who can.
Leaving SZ to buff someone would equate to putting it on EM for sole purpose of transferring. Since leaving to buff you would have no intention of PvP. So it would be unfair if someone attacks you, according to your logic.

But, hey, w/e. I guess bending rules and favoritism is a perk of being a GM.
So, because of the outcome of this, if I were to simply place a 115+50 char on EM for 100 RPs with the title as "Transferring accts, dont buy" and someone buys it, they would then be banned and i would get my char back?
I'd be fine with that. Will save me a few RPs next time i want to transfer beze/rulers/chars to other accts.

+1. Welcome to Rohan, Were 50% of GM's " changes " to the game and " suspension " of players is pure bs without logic or legit evidence, I wish i could be a GM aswell and ban players for ridiculous reasons.....just cause i was feeling angry and salty this morning hahah,

[EaglePhoenix]

It can be abused to RMT though. Set it up for low rps, set the title to "Char transfer" or so - and only the one who payed for it will buy it.
Could end funny if the seller reports the buyer anyway. Lolz.

That we already have now, but why would they do it that way. If you RMT you do not discuss it over forums/PM's or ingame messages as those can be used against you. No, you use skype/fb or whatever and just trade over passwords.
You can still essentially report them for "they hacked me", since fb/skype does not count as proof.

If anything, both will get banned due to suspicions and you still won't get your account back. Neither as buyer or as seller.
Now, as buyer you have to work with Paypall, as you then just chargeback - amirite?

[knuffl88]

That we already have now, but why would they do it that way.
Well why not? If you don't want to sell the whole account - only one char of it?
If you RMT you do not discuss it over forums/PM's or ingame messages as those can be used against you. No, you use skype/fb or whatever and just trade over passwords.
The trading agreement is for sure somewhere else, I never said sth different xD
You can still essentially report them for "they hacked me", since fb/skype does not count as proof.
That works if you're selling an account - not only a char / ruler / beze whatever thing ^^

If anything, both will get banned due to suspicions and you still won't get your account back. Neither as buyer or as seller.
Now, as buyer you have to work with Paypall, as you then just chargeback - amirite?
Well Idk if using PayPall is a good idea - whatever you want to sell / buy. They do not support virtual items afaik. So you don't get support there

Just to make sure: I do not RMT. Just thinking how the stuff could happen. o.o

[CPG215]

It can be abused to RMT though. Set it up for low rps, set the title to "Char transfer" or so - and only the one who payed for it will buy it.
Could end funny if the seller reports the buyer anyway. Lolz.

I would not know how viable it really is... but I would imagine if it were suspected of RMT, they can always check IP addresses of the account it came from and the one it had went to. If they matched, then it would be a true char transfer from one players acct to their other acct.

[knuffl88]

I would not know how viable it really is... but I would imagine if it were suspected of RMT, they can always check IP addresses of the account it came from and the one it had went to. If they matched, then it would be a true char transfer from one players acct to their other acct.

And what if you're saying you're using two PCs?

[EaglePhoenix]

Just to make sure: I do not RMT. Just thinking how the stuff could happen. o.o

AFAIK, the whole of PWi's services are virtual items - chargebacks are "a thing" for sure. As for the one character/account thing.. IMHO if you RMT, you have no interest for RPs and as such, it's usually done when one quits the game altogether.
However, point taken, let's assume that's not the case and they indeed want to sell just one character ..

.. that's exactly why the above is a bad idea, and thus the 'protest' so to speak. It makes no sense and essentially just creates a backdoor for everyone wanting to either RMT and/or avoid the EM taxes. Whatever way you look at it, it's still a loss marketing wise.
Which is also a reason why bans are usually not discussed on forums and limited to tickets only.

That being said, OP still deserves a ban. Not for 'sniping' (unless otherwise proved), but for blackmailing (proved). Which, in fact, is a criminal offense.

[CPG215]

And what if you're saying you're using two PCs?

External IP addresses will be the same, unless connected to different modems... which in most typical households isn't even viable.

[EaglePhoenix]

And what if you're saying you're using two PCs?

In 2 different countries? Unless they're neighbours, of course.

Everyone in this case, understands why OP got punished and why the 'victim' received back his characters. That is not at all the issue, at least not for me.

It is only that this creates a grey zone and leaves either a backdoor or makes people feel they are treated differently, depending on how much money they spend.