Community Feedback Poll~

[Gank83]

There is one reason and one reason only why the new upgrades exist. In order to merge Ran and Jin, they had to offer them because Ran has them and the folks that went to Jin did so either because they did not want to play in a game where they exist or because they could not get an upgrade themselves when they were originally offered and were being outclassed at every turn in Ran. If they didn't offer them, every single person playing on Jin woujld have thrown up their hands and walked ouit the nearest door.

Instead...only 95% walked out the nearest door lol. Remember the entire purpose of Jin had been to be an upgrade free server...

So what did PWI do? Well they offered them relatively cheap to everybody - to the Jin folks because they didn't have any and to the Ran folks because the new ones were built on a higher weapon tier. When I say cheap, remember how much the original 4-part upgrades cost to make. At $20 US/part, the new ones were a steal by comparison. Why they continued to offer them for months after the merge completed is (to me) nothing more than taking advantage of tactical profits driven by and market demand.

"Cheap?" Maybe by Rohan standards...but what most people see is wtf 100+ to make one weapon? Plus what my other gear will ultimately cost...how about I just go buy a couple brand new games that don't involve any pay to win, or go join a sub game with no pay to win instead of paying that "cheap" price for a single pixel item.

Janus is irrevocably broken with all the the attack enhancements everywhere. There is no way in hell these guys will ever be able to balance that pile of slithery snakes.

The only thing that could rival the stupidity of upgrades is when they went full retard with scrolls. If they never went above 10% scrolls they'd have sold just as many, and the game would have played so much better.

[BananaBandit]

"Cheap?" Maybe by Rohan standards...but what most people see is wtf 100+ to make one weapon? Plus what my other gear will ultimately cost...how about I just go buy a couple brand new games that don't involve any pay to win, or go join a sub game with no pay to win instead of paying that "cheap" price for a single pixel item.

Remember back to how much it cost to make 'upgrade v1' what was it - $75 for 2 of the pieces and $90 for the other 2? that's $330 just for parts of a single upgrade. THEN you had to forge them. If you consider spending a total of $80 for all 4 parts of even better upgrades, yeah I would call that dirt cheap in comparison. And trust me plenty of folks bought them including all the core of E2N who came over from Jin.

Do I call it cheap in real life terms? Hell no. You can buy a REAL brand new genuine hand-forged folded carbon steel Katana, including shipping, for less it would cost you to make one a current single 4-piece upgrade pixel sword. I'm not kidding - I actually own one. No those things are only 'cheap' in official Rohan terms and only when comparing them against the cost of the originals.

[Demonic6000]

Remember back to how much it cost to make 'upgrade v1' what was it - $75 for 2 of the pieces and $90 for the other 2? that's $330 just for parts of a single upgrade. THEN you had to forge them. If you consider spending a total of $80 for all 4 parts of even better upgrades, yeah I would call that dirt cheap in comparison. And trust me plenty of folks bought them including all the core of E2N who came over from Jin.

Do I call it cheap in real life terms? Hell no. You can buy a REAL brand new genuine hand-forged folded carbon steel Katana, including shipping, for less it would cost you to make one a current single 4-piece upgrade pixel sword. I'm not kidding - I actually own one. No those things are only 'cheap' in official Rohan terms and only when comparing them against the cost of the originals.

tho you could buy those with our so called "e-cash", and at those times ppl could sell reg stuff for hihger prices. But still - True. tho again i think those pieces were 3.7k rp and 4.2k which is less than 4.5k a piece now. And epics were 23k rp.
I also look on this thread skeptically, and can you guys blame me? We did get a lot of promise and stuff about giving our suggestions to help and improve gaming experience, but none of those were fulfilled.

Ask anyone, game was the best pre-crafting/epic/upg/heroic. Just after they've taken out staffs for buffing blunt. Those times when 800 pollution was the shiet! Now with all the inflated stats from accs/weaps/talismans/walters/tropheys/titles/scrolls/ you can wipe with that dmg lvl 30, maybe (if he is not using twins).

We seriously need class balance (why did str scouts/dekans disappear? where are humans/rangers/giants in Boss fights). Why did PPL under assassin effect drop stuff? Where did agi dhans disappear to? it is all stat-inflations. Why do we even have frozen/darkness/divinity/blazing skill in the game. Seriously. It does 0s.

Story short, i also don't believe in miracles after so many let-downs. By this stage I'd call myself an idiot for believing in changes after 3 shams. Sadly but all the stuff ppl suggested were turned upside down, thrown in the faces of playerbase and given a taste of urine in such a way, that the "upside down thing" seemed nothing compared to what was to come.

Karazy or w/e your nickname is (at this point im alrdy too given up on everything in here to actually look up how your name is actually written just to get on somebody's good side and maybe be Heard), don't take it personally. people were fooled too many times to just believe in actual Balancing and suggestions to be fulfilled in such a manner as players would like it to be. Tell US ALL please what are you going to change for 100% on what are you working atm, and do you have the power to do as you like concerning this matter, or is it that the last word will be after PWI CEO? And we all know what that last word sounds like.

[Gank83]

Story short, i also don't believe in miracles after so many let-downs. By this stage I'd call myself an idiot for believing in changes after 3 shams. Sadly but all the stuff ppl suggested were turned upside down, thrown in the faces of playerbase and given a taste of urine in such a way, that the "upside down thing" seemed nothing compared to what was to come.

We know what's going to happen. Monday GM will be like THANKS FOR INPUT GUYS LOCKING THREAD NOW...and then in a couple weeks they will announce another upcoming pay to win event...even though the results of the poll and discussion in this thread show the biggest thing people want to see is a balance patch.

[bloodybladez3]

tho you could buy those with our so called "e-cash", and at those times ppl could sell reg stuff for hihger prices. But still - True. tho again i think those pieces were 3.7k rp and 4.2k which is less than 4.5k a piece now. And epics were 23k rp.
I also look on this thread skeptically, and can you guys blame me? We did get a lot of promise and stuff about giving our suggestions to help and improve gaming experience, but none of those were fulfilled.

Ask anyone, game was the best pre-crafting/epic/upg/heroic. Just after they've taken out staffs for buffing blunt. Those times when 800 pollution was the shiet! Now with all the inflated stats from accs/weaps/talismans/walters/tropheys/titles/scrolls/ you can wipe qirg that dmg lvl 30, maybe (if he is not using twins).

We seriously need class balance (why did str scouts/dekans disappear? where are humans/rangers/giants in Boss fights). Why did PPL under assassin effect drop stuff? Where did agi dhans disappear to? it is all stat-inflations. Why do we even have frozen/darkness/divinity/blazing skill in the game. Seriously. It does 0s.

Story short, i also don't believe in miracles after so many let-downs. By this stage I'd call myself an idiot for believing in changes after 3 shams. Sadly but all the stuff ppl suggested were turned upside down, thrown in the faces of playerbase and given a taste of urine in such a way, that the "upside down thing" seemed nothing compared to what was to come.

Karazy or w/e your nickname is (at this point im alrdy too given up on everything in here to actually look up how your name is actually written just to get on somebody's good side and maybe be Heard), don't take it personally. people were fooled too many times to just believe in actual Balancing and suggestions to be fulfilled in such a manner as players would like it to be. Tell US ALL please what are you going to change for 100% on what are you working atm, and do you have the power to do as you like concerning this matter, or is it that the last word will be after PWI CEO? And we all know what that last word sounds like.

Stat inflation its self isn't bad as long as its equal for all stat builds. The only exception to this is the Templar, because BM increases Melee exponentially as Int goes up. If its exponential, it will never be balanced across the entire spectrum. Just look at exp gain. At 1-10 it's too fast. 11-20 is ok. 21-30 is ok, but 35-39 seems just right. 40-50 is slow, 51-60 is very slow, 61-70 is even slower. 71-99 is a sanity-sapping experience. Everything above this is hazardous to your health, especially your EYES!! You might be thinking... just us a HK... well that's not actually playing the game. If it gets bad enough to where the OFFICIAL DEVELOPERS create a BOT, then it's blatantly obvious that the system is flawed. The point is, in the long run, increasing exponentially does NOT and won't ever turn out well, for EXP rates AND BM.

As long as BM gets stronger exponentially, it will be flawed.

[sunnyangel]

Stat inflation its self isn't bad as long as its equal for all stat builds. The only exception to this is the Templar, because BM increases Melee exponentially as Int goes up. If its exponential, it will never be balanced across the entire spectrum. Just look at exp gain. At 1-10 it's too fast. 11-20 is ok. 21-30 is ok, but 35-39 seems just right. 40-50 is slow, 51-60 is very slow, 61-70 is even slower. 71-99 is a sanity-sapping experience. Everything above this is hazardous to your health, especially your EYES!! You might be thinking... just us a HK... well that's not actually playing the game. If it gets bad enough to where the OFFICIAL DEVELOPERS create a BOT, then it's blatantly obvious that the system is flawed. The point is, in the long run, increasing exponentially does NOT and won't ever turn out well, for EXP rates AND BM.

As long as BM gets stronger exponentially, it will be flawed.

Thats not true lol stat inflation is why we cant balance this game anyways. No other class aside from Templar, Avenger and Noir can deal with an 7x+ dd 500k hp char with teardrops and holywine.