Atzigan can we have an official response on what safe refine levels are

[BananaBandit]

tbh just by editing the client we should know the actual rates imirite ? I think I still got some edit tools that i haven't deleted and if nothing changed i should be able to find where the numbers are hidden =D

You can look at them using updated tools, but not change (edit) them. If you try to edit them, the loader will wipe your changes since they don't match the server image.

Um I think someone got close to the rates already. Even if from +0 - +5 feels like 100% and then drops from +5 - +6 its just luck bro. 4 items broken already from like 20.

The base rates are a bit of a roller coaster ride. Whether that is on purpose or a bug isn't for me to say.

[RBNXD]

It does feel like a roller coaster ride. xD

[carnettsc]

You can look at them using updated tools, but not change (edit) them. If you try to edit them, the loader will wipe your changes since they don't match the server image.

Technically you still can "trick" the client. But that's not the right place to discuss about it. I do believe some people understood how to do it and were tricking the client with a server proxy sending near 100% rates to +18 rings to the client.

client with edited rates -> server proxy sending edited rates (you match the image of the proxy) -> server. It's typically a MITM attack to tamper rates that was working. idk if this was fixed or not, though. Or if the GMs were even aware of that "program" that was reported. I know some people, back there were one year / one and half that had like 8 or 9 rings +18 on Jin while they were known to spend nothing in the game.

[RBNXD]

Yeah i've heard of this but you shouldn't be getting a free ban ticket just to get a +18 or some.
GMs will investigate you and you'll end up banned prob 4 ever. Better stick to the game rules. Dont risk it. ^^

[defender06]

Let get this straight guy this ain't no JIN or RAN server anymore it Call JAINUS SEVER so wake up people .......so it have new rate deal with it it a Game..... Dont like it dont enchant it.....there ur answer people Ran Nomore JIN nomore ....

Example RAN rate - JIN Rate = new rate

[NaiLcuTTeR]

I think last week after blessing event finish I tried to go higher than +9 all 3 attempt failed. I did use premium at +5 because you know ran rate is gone. as I read others people comment it is in fact it will broke at +6 probably 50/50. even with the blessing event, I did broke 2 items out of 5 at +6. this game is base on luck. but this is a game there is no base on luck in a game more likely base on program. Q.Q

so yeah suck it up. for me I don't like it.

[bacnab]

I am to lazy to read everything so sorry if someone answered already but here:

Rings/Craft Gear:

No safe reinforce level if you fail from even 0 to +1 it will break. Before on Ran the rates were good so +4 was basically 100%, at the moment Jainus does NOT have Ran rates so there is probably no safe + anymore.

Ancient/Ench Weaps or Armors:

These are safe from 0-5 even if you fail it won't break. After +5 however any fail will break the item unless you are using premium preservation stone.

[iamcoffeelover]

Hey StrOwnz,
The rates have never been announced before and will possibly not be officially announced as we are unable to do so.
Goes against our rules. However, there's a post somewhere where BananaBandit gets very close to pretty much how it's working at the moment.
There is a slight chance that the rates will receive a small increase to what they currently are, but we can't make constant changes on a weekly basis.
I will let you guys know once we plan on doing some changes.

oh yeah! And i also believe that refining an items is a luck!

[BananaBandit]

oh yeah! And i also believe that refining an items is a luck!

It kinda is. I've refined a lot of stuff too (after all I had to get those upgrades I forged down to a usable level). Sometimes my luck was bad and I failed 4 out of 5 times and sometimes it was good where I didn't get a single fail out of 5 tries. Just load up on crones -- they are selling for 100rps for half a billion crones. You can afford a few failures

[aliencreature]

I reach +8 once without fail