Quote Originally Posted by BananaBandit View Post
And Ran/Jin is different? Sorry but when I see images like this of templars on Ran hitting 320K shield strike pvp damage, that is like hitting a bug with a sledgehammer.
Upgrade or not, you get hit by that sh!t - you die.

Er, that's on Jin before the new upg's were added and muki has that OP dual stat club, but yes in some cases you will be one hit or two hit on Ran/Jin as well, but compared to Isen I would much rather play in Ran/Jin. I tried both and in both had what passes as good end game/pvp gear and Isen is terrible.