Information Gathering of Current Classes

[sunnyangel]

You dont understand anything :| its like talking to a wall.

The ones that I am selling are not as weak as you make them out to be and people have to suffer with not having the same things as other players all the time.

An example weapon: (Note: The split and Enchanted pieces are the upg ones so elite 16% and broken 17% will be used)
Glacial Split Sword:
63% melee
80 all stats
45 str
70% hp
*DD Rolls done by RANDOM.org* 7+7+13+6+18=51% dd

The only value that is a little low is the %hp and that is because we dont want over the top dekans a max of 104% hp will suffice compared to the upg's max of 120%.


Its like you selectively read only the things you are interested in which drives me nuts.

The second thing I would do is merge jin and ran because this two separate worlds concept is hindering balancing efforts. Once we are all united & on the same page it will be easier to understand the problems.

Forget that part? Its easy to balance the game around upgrade DD its called sell the damn upgrades on both jin and ran. Its fools like you who hinder balance, selling two upgrade parts opens up the most roads for people to earn the upgrade parts.

They could sell any of the following items:

1) The two weapons (Elite and Broken)
2) Accessoreis for ancienting
3) Crystals for reinforcing
4) Crones for refining
5) Improved option stones if you farm in r5 like me.

Along with anything else that sells on the EM. Not to mention they could just buy it for RP.


As far as merges "destroying jin" you dont know what you are talking about and have no justification for that claim. Jin's increased drop rate means that jin players have more rulers than ran players (also the fact that there are a large chunk of ran's rulers collecting dust on old chars). The only difference between jin and ran is that ran players have higher reinforced gear (which can be fixed in 7 days with a reinforcement stone/delux pres sale).

Playwith should seriously consider this it could generate a lot of money for them compared to the silly treasure pocket event that failed on every front.

Also combining the two servers together makes other things cheaper (Chim eye/ear for example) the only part that troubles me is all those tali weapons that are going to go to waste. Maybe we should have a tali exchange for some stuff lolz

[Gadwin83]

Its like you selectively read only the things you are interested in which drives me nuts.

What is a value you think is fair for a templar regular to hit people on the high end of the upgrade dd spectrum that is still a threatening amount of damage without being massive overkill to someone with average dd? I've asked you that like 18 times, if its so easy to balance around upgrade dd why can't you just give me a simple numerical value for an answer. I don't want any words, just give me a number please.

Forget that part? Its easy to balance the game around upgrade DD its called sell the damn upgrades on both jin and ran. Its fools like you who hinder balance, selling two upgrade parts opens up the most roads for people to earn the upgrade parts.

If it is so easy to balance the game around upgrade dd then please give me a value you think will be fair for a templar regular to hit someone with 50dd that is also fair for people on the upper end of the dd spectrum.

As far as merges "destroying jin" you dont know what you are talking about and have no justification for that claim. Jin's increased drop rate means that jin players have more rulers than ran players (also the fact that there are a large chunk of ran's rulers collecting dust on old chars). The only difference between jin and ran is that ran players have higher reinforced gear (which can be fixed in 7 days with a reinforcement stone/delux pres sale).

Yeah let's just forget that piece of Rohan history where epics/upgrades demolished the playerbase and the only reason divinity(jin) exists was to get some of these players back.

Also combining the two servers together makes other things cheaper (Chim eye/ear for example) the only part that troubles me is all those tali weapons that are going to go to waste. Maybe we should have a tali exchange for some stuff lolz

So people on Jin who already spent tens of thousands of rps to reinforce gear to the +8-12 range all get the shaft, because its much easier/cheaper to do on Ran and for the same investment we could have already had +14-18 gear, and every weapon on Jin who people spent tens of thousands of rps to get parts/forge/enhance, other then maybe craft clubs(depending if/how they fix blunt mastery), become absolutely worthless. But don't worry, it might make chim acc devalue a little. Oh wait...why would anyone on Jin who has already invested in chim acc want to see them devalue anymore when they are already cheaper then +4x stat acc or good dual stat acc were before chim were introduced? All your proposal does is give Jin the double bitch slap, once because all their gear is suddenly worthless/worth a lot less, and twice because they would have to dump tens of thousands of rps/hundreds of dollars into buying upgrades and reinforcing gear to a level they probably could have already had it at with the same investment it took to get it to a lower level on Jin.

All this when the major reason why we can't balance at all between servers is because of upgrade dd, which gets even more comical when I've already proven again and again you can't even balance upgrade dd between average upgrade dd and the upper end of the spectrum. That is, unless your willing to give me a value you think is fair for a templar regular to hit someone in the 85+dd range that is actually able to kill them, but isn't massive overkill on someone with 50dd.

And then...there is also that whole factor that everything our version of the game sees has to go through Korea. Korea is balancing around the same dd range Jin has. Why on earth would the gms want to deviate further from the Korean version? Skill defense is a prime example...its a nice change on Jin, but stupid on Ran...well that is unless you think the only way to ever die should be by blunt mastery auto attacks.

[sunnyangel]

What is a value you think is fair for a templar regular to hit people on the high end of the upgrade dd spectrum that is still a threatening amount of damage without being massive overkill to someone with average dd? I've asked you that like 18 times, if its so easy to balance around upgrade dd why can't you just give me a simple numerical value for an answer. I don't want any words, just give me a number please.
This is a stupid question you should not need an answer for this.


If it is so easy to balance the game around upgrade dd then please give me a value you think will be fair for a templar regular to hit someone with 50dd that is also fair for people on the upper end of the dd spectrum.
Another stupid question.


Yeah let's just forget that piece of Rohan history where epics/upgrades demolished the playerbase and the only reason divinity(jin) exists was to get some of these players back.
Another stupid point hello earth to retard there would not have been a problem if YNK kept them on sale instead of enforcing the scarcity of the item.

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Some people were at the right place at the right time others were not its the way life works. Stupid players like you stuck in the past....just ruin the game completely. What was yesterday is different from today and will be different from tomorrow if I have any say in it. You are not the spokesperson for jin and the endgame pvpers have already spoken they want to merge with ran. Who do you think makes YNK more money? your little HK buying ass or 50-200 people that have high upkeep chars? As far as people spending more or less money (for gear) you knew what you signed up for. If you stayed on ran you could have had better rings you left to lvl faster and pick up obsolete glacials and get 1 hit in the process. Dont act like YNK owes you **** all if anything you owe YNK an apology for intentionally sabotaging a thread aimed at balancing the game.


And one more thing before I sign off for the night...

If you are going to use THH's ideas at least suck his figurative dick first you brain dead ****.