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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadwin83 View Post
    Problem is only ones doing those 18-25k regulars is templars.
    Not really a problem not every class is equal and templars have NO OTHER SKILLS to use with the resistance buffs and battle.
    You say you want more tankiness...considering templars are the most played and the highest dps class...fixing blunt mastery automatically makes everyone more tanky by default as the damage ceiling just got lowered.
    The talismans were made because FIXING BLUNT MASTERY CANT BE DONE WITHOUT KOREA. Whereas talismans can be made here and I like this mentality better bringing the other classes up sounds better than hitting one with the nerf stick.
    You say str defenders should get more attack speed. Well you just said your 10 second burst on a str defender is killing full vit toons. That's already enough damage...why do you want more? If your killing full vit toons in 10 seconds or less...wouldn't more damage just mean your going to be killing non-full vit toons in 3 seconds or less? Wouldn't that just make str defenders OP? Oh wait...you want more because they do useless damage compared to blunt mastery still.
    Str defenders biggest weakness is attack speed. Just because I (who is rather well geared) can kill a full vit dino in a well placed combo where nothing gets resisted doesnt mean the average defender can do the same. Attack speed is a top priority as far as buffing defenders goes its just way 2 slow especially since defenders dont use epics like certain templar players do. Also it will help get more defenders to use a shield so that they can use more than just rush blue drain and fixation. The 115 shield skill is OP and shield burden's duration is so long that it can act as a root if coupled with frozen ice/shield strike/fainting pierce debuff/slow. That OP templar got reflect AND obli? dw I got dis whirlwind that priest and a shield push to boot now take out their pt while I blue drain this priest slap her with my shield and hold her down for 15 SECONDS.
    As soon as you get over the idea that everything is broken but blunt mastery...when in fact blunt mastery is the most broken thing...you'll realize...everything else doesn't need fixed...fix blunt mastery and a lot of other things that don't get much play anymore are already in a decent place as far as balance goes.
    Like I said before the talismans are something that can be done locally and bringing the other classes up is good enough because there is nothing wrong with those classes people just are not brave enough to play them.
    And no...not every class has something they are good or unique at. When templars do so much damage...that means all the other dps classes SUCK AT DAMAGE. But the reality of it...even though they might have relatively balanced damage...they suck compared to broken blunt mastery damage. Even with your str defender example...what's the difference between a str defender and templar. Str defender = more cc/blue drain, templar = heals/debuff/reflect. Then it clicks in...when you take the dps disparity into account...who the heck really cares about the extra cc/blue drain when templars just have them dead? The only thing good/unique about a str defender gets made totally irrelevant by ridiculous blunt mastery dps...and that's the case with too many builds right now.
    Ok 1st off healing is not something a templar does in fact its not something a priest does either (exception: perfect healing). I know its there I know players COULD use it but you got 100k hp/mp heal every 10 seconds and 100k hp heal every 20 seconds nobody is healing these days. Secondly defenders have their CC AND they have DPS. Are they king of the hill for DPS? nop and are templars king of the hill for CC? absolutely not. All classes have unique abilities that are great for pvp and people get so caught up on the DPS factor that they dont wana try it out. You think temp is OP dps? what happens when a warlock comes and takes away 80% of your attack speed, cuts your DMG in HALF, removes 30% HP off the top and goes for the 60% all stat nerf because nobody carries detox anymore? But nobody wana play warlock ****s OP. That priest tanking 1/2 of rohan with her teardrop holywine perfect heal spam? what happens when mike the ranger hits her with the silence shot and the antipot? fking dead is what happens. Every class has a use all the talismans should be is making them better at it. No talisman is going to bring class diversity thats a mentality problem and people need to realize that if they had at least 1 of every class in a pvp at the same time some key targets would get gimped the **** out. I mean you hate templars so much and the 2nd most popular class (priest) counters them, a single warlock can counter them, a single predator can counter them and the more unique disables you have the better.

    WTF is self proclaimed best templar in rohan gonna do when you hit him with frozen ice (-60% attack speed), prevent pet (-20%), slow (-60%) AND heavy weapon (-70%) ???? *longest CD=heavy weapon at 120 secs with 70 sec duration*

    WTF is self proclaimed best templar in rohan gonna do when you hit him with transformation? (60 sec duration 120s cooldown)

    WTF is self proclaimed best templar in rohan gonna do when you hit him with vacuum? (45 sec duration 120s cooldown)

    They got 2 options: spend 10 gs to buff ohn's blessing (75 rps per cast) or get a debuff removal totem (but only idiots let a totem stay up).



    I know you have not been on ran in a long time but pvp with a templar is a ticking time bomb. You are spaced apart from the enemy guild charging your chrono to max you got 3 reflects (including using it without chrono) to kill 2 sometimes 3 UPG priests (and 1 gets away scott free with shelter lvl 7), and as many people as you can before its doom time and you cant hit ppl or you are getting gimped out the ass with disables or you are focused and killed. If there was more class diversity pvp would be a whole lot easier for everyone but people have the same broken mentality as you which is oh if it doesnt kill like a temp its useless.
    Last edited by ShadowAce; 10-06-2014 at 03:04 PM.

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