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I bought Jikael of Chaos Greatsword.XG+9 at market price of 950 million. GM says it's illegally refined. They removed my weapon. But doesn't give me back the cegel I spent on purchase.
I would like to know. gm this is right or wrong.
is this real. This is so unfair.
Why is this happening. It's not your fault.
Dear GM
I think that's so unfair,.. Please reconsider for those decision because the buyer can't verify is that legal refine or not when they making transaction,..
Regards
yes. Why is this happening. It is recommended that gm reconsider the above decision. . This is so chilling
new GM management is BAD. We dont know what item is ilegal or not, and yet GM Remove the item that player buy and not Compensate the price player spend on buying those item,.
i mean if GM want remove is OK, but If player buy it with cegel or item / item mall by trade what so ever, GM should give back ALL the item use for trade.
few years ago old GM do this for item that SCAMED or ilegal, gm remove it, and compensate all the item that used to buy.
but now GM kinda lazy and just remove item, blindly.
HOW we know where the item from?is that illegal item or not? why this game not safe by player? this GM decision is Bad and disapointing.
this make seal BOD player just lost the item with out compensation. so stupid.and lazy how this handled. not recomend to play this game with this kind of management.
Wow, one GM edited fchrulrz comment but not bother answering
big question though, why don't they remove it when the weapon is owned by the seller? why remove after the illegal weapon sold to others?
Greetings,
First of all, we do not discuss confidential information publicly, as the GM Team cannot respond properly without releasing personal information from the user. This is why I edited some comments here. If any player has a concern regarding their case or any issue, we invite you to send us a ticket to clarify as much as possible the situation.
That being said, the HnC hacked equipment is a very complex issue that we are still dealing with. We cannot share any information regarding this to prevent alerting cheaters and users who have taken advantage of this issue.
Be sure that every case in been analyzed individually, we do not take the same resolution for all the cases.
For the GM Team, there is no margin of doubt whether a weapon has been illegally refined or not.
If the user chooses to lie regarding the way he got access to the weapon, the investigation is terminated immediately and no compensation is provided.
We handle all equipment cases with special care and can tell if the user has been aware that was supporting illegal actions or not. The GM Team only acts on confirmed information.
yes, gm should be do this job when fresh, a few days after this happen, not like 3-4 months AFTER, then remove the item. player seal BOD already have and BUY/ Trade with CEGEL/ items/ item mall. GM Remove and not compensate them so disapointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke1606
when we ask GM to check that Transaction, GM the one asking us the DEETAILS months Ago, how can we know the details? what ign and when trade also dont know, we play this game for Fun, safe , and enjoyment. not to remember something useless like that.
this new GM's works different from old GM, old gm better to handle something like this.
Well, in your case, i stand with GM. Cause GM was softly said to "stay away" from HnC weapon G to XG. And many user have warn other player to not buying hnc at this time. And i believe u are not dumb enough to believe that HnC weapon XG priced at 950 mil cause VSTB at Market priced at 200m++ each��
I just bought it one day and it was deleted by you. I asked the seller and he said he used it for two months. what do you say about this
in my Case is hnc. G = 1,5b price++ , meanwhile that " Suspicious" hnc. G people sell around 500-700m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relinquriboh1
i mean as player, you buy the hnc.G but got removed. with out compensation the 1,5b cegel. that you collect. you get angry right?
after 3-4 months we buy the item and even refine it to G+10/12, GM not compensate all the cegel, astb2, VSTB materials, that used on that item,. thats bull****.
also, that item in game , we dont know ilegal or not, its same. the game supose to be SAFE and fun to play. not like this suddenly remove without compensation the price we BUY on market. by trade/ pull on vending.
if want remove its okay, but full compensation about price/ cegel/ item/ item mall we used to buy that ITEM. FEw years Ago GM gunrock and shriimp handle this kind of thing like that. now new name GM or just old gm with new name, handle things like this remove without compensation and replay playr ticket with same COPY- PASTE answer. saying diffrent case, different way to handle? dont lie la.
after 3-4 months we buy the item and even refine it to G+10/12, GM not compensate all the cegel, astb2, VSTB materials, that used on that item,. thats bull****.
Yes. Why did you block my account just two days after I bought it. and removed the weapon? Why is it not deleted in the hands of the seller.Quote:
Originally Posted by GMHamt
I was watching him set up a stall in the city. He sold it for a month and you didn't delete it. Why did I delete it as soon as it got in my hands. You also don't refund my cegel?
Is this fair?
the item by Trade to us player in game, i mean how do you know that item ilegal or not? this game and system should be safe for us players.
the feature Trade, and premium kiosk, is there for us to trade with other people with Fairy price, and both have good agreement.
in some ticket GM said that item directly from ilegal refiner, so cannot give compensate. i mean how the hell we know its come from? is there lebel say " made by illegal method"???
all item same, even with vending, people like to TRADE because its cheaper 10% than vending TAX.
if proof ilegal bla bla, oke la, but the amount cEGEL, items, item malls that spend on that ITEM shoudl be COMPENSATE FULL<<<!!!!!! if you think thats illegal what so ever,
also this happen like 3-4 months maybe more, WTF now you do something like this? and delete item without compensate? and not fast to working about that? how many times the item already move one to another?
or just lazy?
what you are doing is wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by GMHamt
There's no compesate? I think u must see GM post a few month's ago. GM noted do not involved about HnC things at THAT time and this time ofcourse. BASED on GM STATEMENT if you BUY the HnC before GM make any decision about this HnC things, GM will considered you are participating to CONTRIBUTE the ILLEGAL activity involved the HnC equipment.
To see the different the LEGAL HnC and ILLEGAL HnC, take a look at the PRICE first. Also GM also KNOW the history of the equipment was refined. You must noted this. So if you SMART BUYER u must have critical mind about this and frequently ask to other player about the issue at the game.
Why did he set up a stall for a month. You do not delete. We have to delete it after our players have purchased it. Isn't this your responsibility?Quote:
Originally Posted by Relinquriboh1
The seller possessed it for more than a month, displaying it on vending, then when you bought it, boom illegal itemQuote:
Originally Posted by suixi
so much for "no margin of doubt whether a weapon refined illegally or not" lol
please do a better management in the future, many of us already spend more than 10k rps after playing this game for years, especially lately there has been many rps spending events, but I don't see improvement in game management....
not improvement, but backwardsQuote:
Originally Posted by Luke1606
the most logic and fair GM do is remove item while all cegel nor item that spend on that item compensate full,
and thje one ILLEGAL refiner what soever they call, should be banned permanent and not get any cegel / item they receiver removed.
not player that buy it. so different how to handle this case from old GM, old gm more good handle this kind problem. and give fair compensate not as lazy and do nothing GM now.. so suckz
i do agree with relinquriboh on this kind of cases. GM made an announcement about the HnC .G/DG/XG issues and HnC.G weapons cost more than 1,5billions cegels. if youre legit made it from scratch. even if u succeed from +9-+12 the other mats cost more than 1.5billions cegels ..smhQuote:
Originally Posted by suixi
at market that time illegal hnc.G is around 500-700m, so buying at 1,5b-2b its consider normal, when you refine your self ytolo +10 and use astb1/2 to +11 then +12 using few vstb,
and selling price sometimes lower than the actual cost you using. consider , want sell fast/ change equipmenet.
why at that time 3 months ago gm not do anything? and just by now gm do something?? there is still lot hnc .G/DG/Xg ilegal around and people keep safe, why not wipe all the ilegal
hahaha, gm remove hnc.G/XG that we buy in game with CEGEL, and just remove without compensation, the CEGEL we used. WTF this GM do? so unprofesional work as GM, not like old GM who know how to works.Quote:
Originally Posted by GMHamt
hei GM, come share ticket HERE. you asking the transaction that 3-4 months ago, and remove the item, HOW THE FK player know exactly Date? or ign who we trade? you the one removed it, if as GM dont know exactly the item trade or something. dont just stupidly random remove the item without checking log/ proof you have. so unprofesional GM work
this GM already fail to check the illegal item/ what so ever happen with hnc in the market.G/DG/XG. and randomly remove item, and ASKING player when refine, who you trade/ exact date.Quote:
Originally Posted by lalinado
why the fck we shpould know about that? every time trade we need SS save the date?? isn't game supose to be fun? why so complicated like this, GM randomly remove item, asking player and not giving back the cegel/item used for trade. so freaking stupid.
not recomend to play this game with this kind of management.