we cant farm there what that heck u guys smoking ISEN DONT HAVE UPGRADES FIX THAT **** AND PIRATE STILL THERE AND NO POWER ARENA EITHER AND THEY DONT SEND NOTHING FOR LOSE THAT PA
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we cant farm there what that heck u guys smoking ISEN DONT HAVE UPGRADES FIX THAT **** AND PIRATE STILL THERE AND NO POWER ARENA EITHER AND THEY DONT SEND NOTHING FOR LOSE THAT PA
Yeah the new spots are to hard on isen :(
heul doch:)
I think we have to do it with opa sets and onyx set xD
I actually feel for you Isen players. I'm on Jainus, have an upgrade and so does my party (4 of us, Priest, Rumir (+50 with 1000k title), Noir (+50 with 1000k title) and Pred) and its still tough for us atm on this new Infinity map. I died within the first 5 minutes of being here due to not being prepared for the dmg (30 to 70k hits) and hk pulling me all over the place due to dam range mobs again. The Dhan in my pt is getting 100k whacks from magic mobs and even killing the mobs is taking foreverrrrr. All mob dmg goes right through my Soul Mediation and even looking away from the screen is dangerous lol
(Edit - Our Rumir went to look for a safer spot n we all got wiped lol! Magic mobs doing 90k hits on me too)
I can't imagine you guys over there at Isen trying out this place :/
They really didn't think this out too well!!
This two new maps is impossible to farm at isen GMs no understand isen need own balance for hp mobs/dmg maybe they understand but they not care we not have extra DD we not have 110% hp extra takes forever to kill a mob...i rly hope you guys can fix this everyone on isen and most of jainus is obligated to make a predator to can farm in that places i'm rly not enjoying
I run a party made up of a Pred, Temp, Rumir, Priest, Guard and Def. No mind you the Pred is in +12 -13 Opa set +18 opa katar =12 abso set and +12 rings, temp in +6 opa set, +17 club, +6 and 12 abso set and +6 Blade rulers, rest of party in 10x pdef onyx and onyx weapons. i lead in and kill my way to a spot with the temp on mana shield cus well she can tank, can get set up adn live for about 30 mins, then rebuffs happen and well im ****ed at that point all party goes down lol. the temp and pred can kill the **** pretty quickly together, but in the end that dage form ranged and mage mobs win out.
try 2 priest with obligation 7s =24/7 obligation means forever damage cut by half or more.
a tip that people rarely think is, GIVING DELAY to each buff so you wont rebuff all in one go.This is very important.
2 rumirs with 7s heal and loop will ensure survival.
the other 2 can be preds because their dps aoe damage and heal traps(add more survival.
idk the damage of marea disciple type mob yet(I am lazy to check), but mybe reach 100k? i tried gail disciple before GM reduce their damage and they hit me 100k. Im wth upg.
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2gsnbth.jpg
that is my pred without oligation and no pve pendant. with upg tho.
so maybe if we use enough support pt its managable
As for ISEN i feel sorry guys. :P
Staggering buffs is defenatly somethign that needs to happen, problem is when u trygin to stagger buffs on 6 toons and u need to make sure that they aint buffing at same time either takes a whiel to get them set lol.
permanent 7s when :P
topkekkest keks kek
On Jainus, it's very possible to farm at this map as long as you have your party structured correctly. 2 predators, 2 rumirs, a priest, and another char (a temp for group euphoria, a guard for extra crit rate, or just another predator). It's fine for the moment, though it could be better. What I'm concerned about is, outside of everyone (or close to everyone) having upgrade weapons, we're also carrying extra hp from the Power Arena talisman. The extra 100k-200k hp does wonders as it stacks with buffs, giving everyone over 500k hp.
What happens when December 11 comes around and everyone is back to 200-300k hp though? I'm sure it's craptons worse for Isen, but even on Jainus I imagine it's going to be quite difficult once the Power Arena season resets.
why do poeople still play this game. get a life instead of struggling vs mobs in a game.
whos ready for evil santas with more HP/damage than bez on steroids? L U L
lol so funny xmas hopefully will be good as it once was *still waiting*
i use half party for last map : temp/priest/rumir .all whit Onyx set , temp/upg 1.0 , priest /upg1.0 , rumir / opaniel sphere . only temp has good accesoryy priest and rumir whit pendat +6/8 and i am ok ,. sometime i die by lag ,delay or bug mobs .... :D . whit a full party i think its much better to kill faster because the drop are really rare ....
about ISEN idk what to say......i think its suicide :D
You guys wanna farm the new map at ISEN?
Here is what you do, you make a party of 6 with:
1 defender
1 dragon sage
1 templar
1 priest
1 predator
1 Rumir
(pred/priest/def are full vit, Rumir full psy, sage & temp full intel)(all class but temp/priest/def require opa guarder with 10% hp abs)
You do not want to make this party comp with max gear = fail
bye bye ty for your rage.
Why such a retards play in isen, I still can't understand? Nubs I still remember Ran-Jin merge and ppls from jin (without upg's) wiped the a$$es of ran (upg ppls), same situation is now, you QQ too much, perhaps GM should rename Isen into QQsen, you all either lack of simple logic, either the only ppl who QQ on the forum from isen are some keyboard wariors who played rohan ages ago and heard from some noob that mobs in new map are hard AF, well let me remind you what rohan can offer you because you are probably too blind to see:
1 - ruler weapons (hmmm... this is many times better than upg)
2 - party play system (duh... wtb brain)
3 - support characters such as: priest, rumir, defender / heavy cc wizz / ranger for mobility (you noobs probably die on your way running to the starting point of your hk) (all seem to be playing dhans nowadays)
4 - hand play (you F@ktards always QQ that rohan is ruined with the introducing of the hk - HK has many bugs and you can't expect hk to play better than you, because HK is like a cocroach moving your character - do you have bigger brain than a cocroach???? - than try fingerstyle
5 - pve gear: now someone from the previous coments said that he went to the new map with rulers rings and died - have you heard of pve pendants, pve title, have you tryed +sing your elemental talisman? (WTB BRAIN)
6 - Item Mall boost system (7's, costumes, !scrolls from events!, stones for armors and weapons)
7 - Boosting gear options: +sing your rings (have you heard, chakra set exist? you don't have to be pro for farming boxes and getting +12 tickets) and armors and weapons, talismans, etc... you can even craft the ARS yourself
8 - i can go on forever, but let me tell you something interesting
NB just yesterday I've made a party in which I was the only one having upgrade weapon (my zhen, i'm vit DK Kaname), the rest were not even +50 with glacial and onyx weapons and we farmed on hk whole night at the newest abyss map, if you use your logic, you can do really well and + opaniel armors exist in isen way before they were introduced in jainus ( only coudn't be transcended as I am informed), now imagine 1 guy with a ruler weapon + bunch of idiots with twice better gear from my noobs- I did it
9 - you have short memoryes: when warehouse was introduced who could farm there, when mirror maps were introduced who could farm there??????????????????????
You are a bunch of loosers, pls report me, i bet Gm will give me rps for those precious advices
10 - pets: lol there is a pet fox alike, omg, lol there is CDR pet lol lol lol isen ppl are aliens from out of space with brain capacity lower than a mosqito
11 - a person who joined rohan 2 weeks ago QQ why he can't farm in the new map while braging that he created the best guild in ISEN - Leviathan, well GJ for the guild, but you joined rohan 2 weeks ago and you qq about some BS, don't expect someone will take you serious
PS: that shanon11 guy had created an awesome begginer's guide and guide for ppl returning to rohan, altho not complete, because hey, he can't give you the items in your mouth, you have to play for it (LOGIC) and even if he writes 20 full pages of info still won't be complete, anyway you should have a look at it
Omg this noob on about "ruler weapons" dude they are very rare on isen and they only last for 2 weeks, and then they gone they are NOT perm weapons and to top it off u can only stone them with the stones they give you, and hey noob its a matter of HP, we dont have 100-120% hp on weapons here in addition to our normal attack, on top of that our DD maxes out at 57% and that assumes you get MAX rolls on all 3 forges but to do max dd you need to lose the life saving leech, but then guarders oh wait for 95% of the ppl that dont have a trans Opa yet that only 5% not nearly enough to counter the damage these mobs give. the hurt 20-30k normals and 70k crits is enoguh to wipe any one out fast. now right now most of us have a lot of hp cus its nearing end of PA season and we have commander and supreme commander badges adding 100-200k hp but come dec 11 when that goes away most of the ppl here will drop below 100k hp and will get 1-2 shot. and vit pred vit priest are u mad? vit pred gonna do no damage so its useless except for trap, vit priest cant heal for **** so obligation only, vit def well yea that is a typical build but agian an emp pet. Temp only good if its REALLY Well geared, and your also talking about the pay to win aspect, not everyone can afford to spend $100's a month on lvl 7s and patterns and ****, so keep ur **** about Isen to yourself as u obviouly dont play here and have 0 idea on the actual state of play.
I actually know more about this game than 99% of the people you have met, will meet or yet even have to be born trolol. The fact that you think priest can heal in the new map is already hilarious since the cast time is long enough for mobs to wack you down. The only way you survive in the new map is due to the absorption stone on your guarder. As for vit pred/priest/def, it's the logical and most economic thing to do since they can survive 1 or 2 hits before temp/sage take the aggro and heal trap heals them back % wise healing so the more vit, the better the heal.
What noone seems to understand is that PDF & MDF still matter in this game, it's a stat that's forgotten because everyone only focuses on damage drop/HP/PVP def and so on. However with the 200% def ulti and 200% int = FLAT pdf/mdf on dragon sage, in combination with 45% pdf boost from emp, priest ulti and so on and so on you can reach over 100k PDF/MDF on your dragon sage. At this point it can tank mobs no problem. Since your Rumir/pred/priest/def do not deal damage but are vit/tank and support they will not take much mob aggro. Your templar and sage are your DPS of which you max out the gear of your sage which means you can reach up to 1 million melee on your sage and kill the mobs really quickly as single DPS in your party.
It's simply 1 hypercarry sage with 5 supports that have the pure focus on the sustain of your party.
There is one person in this entire game who has this setup that I designed and it works PERFECTLY. I calculate everything through, I test everything and I know everything. So the only thing that's left for me to say to you is git schooled and git good or gtfo.
*drops mic*
http://i63.tinypic.com/idugjq.jpg He's not exaggerating on those stats on sage either. Even though I can't reach that 1mil melee yet XD
I'm in Isen Server, but my own party (Predator, Rumir, Priest, Ranger, Guardian and Defender) managed to survive now in New Map maybe because my 4 chars are already Supreme Commander and can kill even the bosses in Trans Dungeon +50. In my own opinion the ideal party for New Map is 3 Predator, 1 Rumir, 1 Priest and 1 Ranger. I include ranger to increase the mobility of the Predator when they run from one mobs to another.
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Its all well and good to say if you build your party right then you won't have issues or something along those lines. And sure that would work in the "perfect" Rohan world but unless you have a very dedicated group of the same people OR your own army of chars with all the right gears, time and so on, what are the chances of being able to form such party everytime you want to farm these new maps? Not very likely. And with the sh1t stat rates on drops atm? You're going to be farming for 6 or longer months just to get new armors and by then new stuff will be out (knowing this company)...
Yeah you are right the drops is very rare especially the max stat but can still farm 300-400 million in 10 hrs due to high value items dropped (abys weapon). That's why I suggested 3 predator in a party to kill fast and increase the efficiency of farming.
I have 7 chars +50 and 2 of them have 1k title and I still have 1 set of proofs for 1 k title selling in EM. That's why I made 1 party character in my own to farm anytime I want without relying to other PPL.
You're on pendants, those don't work for sage/temp. You need chakras or even rulers +18 are better than pendants. that way you can reach 1 million+ melee
Yea good luck with your farm party when PA reset, the only way to farm is the way I suggested, unless you want to depend on PA badge, spend insane amounts of money on gearing all chars with max gears and still die.
LOL
It's not supposed to be easy, these maps are the latest content that's added to rohan. There will not be any new armour/weapons for a LONG time. With time people will get better rings, gear, higher reinforcement lvl on everything and so on. This will make them able to farm in these new places. This content was never added to instantly make people able to solo in those maps but rather to progressively work towards challenging PVE.
it shouldn't be available for all players, only the best of the best should be able to farm there. As the game progresses things will get easier and it will get more accessable for a multitude of players. It's the isen players on this forum that are a bunch of toxic and braindead monkeys and thus I **** on them and their server.
As for their opinion, sorry to tell you but you're wrong, their opinion doesn't really matter much, why you may ask? Their server is nearly abandoned, it's simply not worth($) the time to re-balance every update for the ISEN server. You saw what happened to Origin when it failed and the company demanded it a loss? it closed! ISEN players HATE upgraded weapons and HATE rpk so they do not want to merge with Jainus, meaning they remain a minority which doesn't get factored in by PWI. You either adapt and survive or you refuse and eventually, die.
This is fair? Well if you ask me, they stayed onboard a sinking ship and demand to go down with it, so everyone who's still playing at isen, refusing to merge, yea they kind of got what they asked for so I can't feel sorry for them. As for what PWI does, I would do exactly the same, it's in the best intrest of the company to invest time and thus money into servers that also generate money/profit.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying isen will close, nor merge, I have no clue about that. I'm just explaining the how it works in the real world, if you deem it fair or unfair is entirely up to you.
"it shouldn't be available for all players, only the best of the best should be able to farm there. "
lol what kind of elitist bs is that? wow Flo. Tell me when do the little guys get a shot? They changed inter, they changed Mirrors, they added 2 new maps that regular players have difficulty playing on...when do the common folk get a dam break or a change. That's all coming, is it?