upgrade weap damn so op 60-70dd.+ 100+ health,,,opa weap is not even close,, we new beginner or returned player demand a new set of upgrade ....or sale new stone 50+ or 60+ dd at least we can figth bit longer to upgrade weilder char
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upgrade weap damn so op 60-70dd.+ 100+ health,,,opa weap is not even close,, we new beginner or returned player demand a new set of upgrade ....or sale new stone 50+ or 60+ dd at least we can figth bit longer to upgrade weilder char
Abyss set can get up to dual stats 112 each if really working on it... Really damn hard... But I already saw club with 112 Meele 8x magic and 5x dd.
Dmg is crazy.
anybody who tells you that regular is the same as upgrade is lying to you because they want you to think you have a chance.
i dont think so, abyss 50+dd has no chance in 70 dd multiple stats.
I didn't say you have chance.. I just ment that for farm dmg is actually better.
And then with time you can buy your upg with farming a lot.
upgrade weapon are so damn expensive, farming of crones is one option but this is butthurt farming. im a return player not played for a year, the reason i stop is those upgrade wielder char., now playing for almost 2 month but then again in again the same experience no enjoyment only those char with ups enjoyed pk and kill me in pa
I have upgrade dagger for sale
Between Opaniel and Abyss weapon, which one better ?
Pls advise me.
tks
Abyss much better than Opaniel weapon, if it has a max stat like 112%HP or melee/magic, and 50%+dd +The 4 socket for 4 Trans stones u can put on it, Just like what i saw in CS a Abyss Katar with 112%HP, 12%MELEE, 11%MAGIC, 50%DD, +(Transtone stone for 4 socket, 18%Critrate, +30%PenDD,+33%AS+45%Mobility) its clear that its much more better than Opa, However its no match compare to Upgrade which have 70%DD, 60MELEE, 32%Critrate, HP110%, 50%AS, as long as Upgrade weapon exist people will keep complaining about it.
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamui0924
Example with xbow , i feel when forged Trans Opa xbow and up plus, it give you a lot of dex and vit on it.
It still lose so % RA increase
those ppl who does upgrade weap are the same ppl who are against the selling of upgrade weapon they are afraid of there ups weap never been sold anymore or become more cheaper price, look at the price at em now its over price its x5 the original price because of the ppl demand
You know what is the saddest part here is that GMS are ****ing dumbass, everytime you ask them about releasing of new upg, they will only tell you this ( upgrade are not sell because we afraid that it will give negative impact in game, we still evaluate the possible solution for this) meee.... what WTF is the point on that they already release a upg why not they release again they have made a damage already. and it cant be fix anymore unless they remove all upgrade that exist in game, or to sell upg regular in IMQuote:
Originally Posted by chamores
yes i agree with that solution so the new player will enjoy the game as well not only those pro player always bragging they are gods of rohan. but the gm always denying new commers, the gm always focus on balancing the character rather than atracting the new players , so many new ppl stop playing after learning that they have no chance of winning upgrade weapon wielder
1. but balancing the characters attracts new playersQuote:
Originally Posted by chamores
2. If removing upgrade weapons will attract more players, then why Jainus' population is greater than Isen's population?
before the upgrade weap sale isen server is already lesser ppl and i personally came from isen i play more than a year despite of less population the pk is so active new players dont like that. jainus is the old server and so many server merge in one oviously population is great, and one thing a newplayer is always looking for game is the population the farming and jainus is more population the new player choose jainus because i new player want to see the game very alive and more selling of items so i can make items in no time. the selling in isen is so rare very hard to find the recipe you neededQuote:
Originally Posted by yinggamer
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by chamores
So it's not a guarantee that deleting upgrades will attract more players.
I agree with you on one thing though. We need another upg sale for glacial is too old now. The idea of farmable upgrade parts base on Fox's idea is even better.
yes exactly! deleting is not the best solution, selling another set of upgrade can attract more ppl i have known ppl who want to play rbf from sea server and those who quit before waiting for the upgrade sale if theres any in im.Quote:
Originally Posted by yinggamer
I want a new Upgrade specially a Upgrade Abyss thats look bad ass :)
Yes this is true abyss weapon even with double stats and socketed can not compare to 3.0 katar. But it’s unfair to say that all Upg are on the same level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamui0924
3.0 katar is the dumbest **** GMs have ever done to this game.
32% crit
65+% DD
All other upgs are either
24% crit 8%DD
Or
12% crit 65+%DD
It is fair to choose either max crit or max DD but dhans have best of both worlds which is why even after nerf they are still OP.
People claim they are not OP anymore are delusional. We are only able to compete with Dhan same lvl and same gear atm, bc of the infinite crit scrolls from events. Without scrolls you have no chance 1vs1. Obviously with loop or wiz crit immune you have chance.
3.0 katar is main reason that new UPGs will still not even solve the issue.
They will never release katars like that again. And still people who want to play Dhan will cry that 4.0 not as good as 3.0
If 4.0 has similar stats as 3.0 then they might as well have a maintenance where all people are changed to dhans, and change this game name to Dhan Fued.
Back on the subject of abyss weapons. It will take a lot of time but I have seen double max stats on parts. 112% melee and 112% magic attack on a temp or sage can definitely compete with upgrades. You will wreck anyone in 2 seconds no matter their HP/DD
Actually a 112% melee and 112% hp zhen still destroys 2.0 zhen damage 56% melee. Fully socketed abyss would be fun to try.
Like I said earlier many Abyss weapons double stats and socketed, can compete and be better in certain situations, nothing however can compete with 3.0 katar
Still not a fair comparison to all other upgrades
The main issue in this game is that to farm abyss mobs you need Upg 70DD +10DD from trans bonus for total of 80DD.
And on top of that nice pve def%
why would they introduce a (decent) alternative to upgs that you have no way in hell a chance of farming unless you have full party with upgs and maxed gear.
The GMs are too incompetent to properly test the abyss mobs and see any problem.
see upgrade is always on top, its better to flood more upgrade weapon in game so the new player can also compete with those ppl call themselves gods of rohan i hate to admit but i cant do nothing if upgrade wielder bully my characterQuote:
Originally Posted by thatniqqa41
It is better to sell upgrades - the people who have the only upgrades don't want you to compete fairly so they wish that there is no sale.
A little bit off topic but is there any chance we'll witness the return of the MIGHTY LATVALA?Quote:
Originally Posted by walkingdeadnyc
GM`s dont care about players game suck for everyone no upg why u think in Yolo is more ppl them here if they are 100 players here there is like 300 there
WoW...... I wish I could like this comment. My heart is fullQuote:
Originally Posted by petebebz
A lot of you guys cry for upgs bc you think if you have an Upg also you will have a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by chamores
There are many other items that a fully geared character needs to be OP and all of them cost a **** ton of money.
Magical Tali, Walters, Verdicts Set, Opa/Abyss Armor, Trans Guarder, Abso Set +18
Each of these have similar cost to an upg, Some even more, Abso Set +18, and Verdict Set is over 99k ecash each
New upgrades won’t do **** to the prices of these other items.
Also Magical Tali and Walters +10 has been said already will be coming in the future, these will be insanely expensive.
If you think all you need is Upg to compete with the top players in pvp you are very very misguided and don’t realize how much gear it takes.
If they release new upgs or not it doesn’t change much.
If you want to be top you have to spend literally thousands of dollars.
If not be happy in bottom/middle or don’t play the game.
There are certain classes that can make it in pvp without upgs.
Avenger with Ultimate skill and opa katar can 100% kill anyone with Upg as long as the rest of their gear is on an even level, which still costs thousands
Edit: I’m not saying they shouldn’t sell 4.0. But I am saying a lot you guys think Upg sale will solve all your problems but you don’t realize how much everything else costs also.
This game is P2W, has always been P2W, and will ALWAYS be P2W.
Dont need your explanation dude, people already know that, all they want is for the release of new upgrade in game as simple as that. Why you keep telling us a story that is not relevant to the topic. Would you think people only want a new upgrade so they can Competent in other player maybe its one of the main reason, but Majority of people here want upgrade so they can farm on new map ex Abyss, and beside they want something new in game. your playing safe in this conversation but obviously your one of the Rohan god that have stock tons of upgrade and you afraid the release of new one will depreciate the value of your upgrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by thatniqqa41
you dont have to educate us about the game i know this game is p2w . you think not selling upgrade anymore can solve the problem, idiot as ever where was your brain as long upgrade weapon exist the complain of ppl continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by thatniqqa41
Can you guys read? I said they should probably release 4.0, however there will still be problems, everything else still expensive and then a lot of you will still complain that you can’t have 3.0 katar.
When they release 3.0 many of them sucked ass compared to 2.0, I agree they should release 4.0 but it will not be that simple. These GMs already **** this game up so bad with many bad choices I bet 100% that they don’t do 4.0 in a smart way if we do get it.
The only really fair thing to do is to put ALL past upgs on sale in IM Epic, 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 and maybe new 4.0.
This is the only fair solution, even then 90% of players would switch to Dhan and use 3.0 katar and there would be no variety and many would quit.
Yes you idiot derp derpQuote:
Originally Posted by chamores
Even with 4.0 the complain of ppl continues watch and see lol
How about putting a Crit rate Cap on dhan is that not a good idea like example 35% is the cap for dhan more than crit rate on that wont considered, this is the true nerf on dhanQuote:
Originally Posted by thatniqqa41
most of the complainant are new beginer every month new beginer come and play , but after learning there is upgrade weapon and the price is insane high in em then the new ppl will start complaining bout the upgrade weapon. all new ppl wants is upgrade sale in im it was a dream for us to wield upgrade weap in affordable price like u get them before.Quote:
Originally Posted by thatniqqa41
Sell those 4.0 upg, plox. I want a staff ._.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chamores
Stop assuming things about me. I was not around for upgrade sale. I know what you new people want, I am just telling you it is not so simple as that. The backbone that keeps this game running is not new ppl, it is the vets that regularly spend hundreds on the game. This is not opinion this is fact. This is why GMs haven’t released new Upg.
If they do release new ones, they will piss off many of the big spenders, AND you new guys still have issue of other items costing insane amount or 4.0 possibly not being equal to 2.0 or 3.0.
Either way this game is beyond ****ed, there is no perfect scenario, it’s too far gone, if you are waiting on the GMs to fix the game then I’m real sorry to tell you it won’t happen.
Here is a much more likely scenario which will play out:
-4.0 gets released for $150 each and all noobs are happy and vets mad
-Walters +10 and Magical Tali +10 come out and cost over 99k ecash to buy and even more to make them.
-Eventually they release even more OP Rings than chakra and screw over anyone who spent money making +21 verdict set.
-Vets spend their life savings for these new items so they can poop on the lesser spenders again
-The lesser spenders quit cuz they don’t wanna spend thousands
-The vets are bored of the game but won’t quit because they feel dumb to spend so much and quit shortly after.
-everyone logs in only for PA, at which point 90% of mains are AFK because its not fun anymore
Everybody lose except Playwith Interactive.
We end up in exact same situation as we are now, it is a rut that can not be escaped.
Try to do your best to enjoy this game as it is now, I don’t think it will last much longer.
If the upg wep was a problem.... Why isen server is dead?
The real problem is the main chars are keep to be the same and its boring... Dhan.... Temp...ds...are the only chars who can do dmg.... Trinity class are ****ed up and everywhere cus of that... It's really boring to see same classes all over again.... The balance patch so far doesn't being anything new... And that the real problem.
What mine noir can tank abyss spot hmm
With ruler 2dhan hard to kill me
whats your point? You can tank with upg yeah so can many othersQuote:
Originally Posted by iceboyhn
Noir damage is a also a complete joke in abyss bc the mobs pdef is too high