What do you think about this talisman, should it remain the same or should it change to for example 1000 vit instead of 200k hp.
With this change also releasing items/talismans that give PVE attack/defense to compensate for PVE.
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What do you think about this talisman, should it remain the same or should it change to for example 1000 vit instead of 200k hp.
With this change also releasing items/talismans that give PVE attack/defense to compensate for PVE.
who was the genius that decided giving a talisman with 200k flat HP was a good idea.
It ruined PVP, there is no fun in wacking in on eachother while each having 1 million + HP. Some friends quit already because there is literally zero PVP going on. I can't be arsed to rpk anymore because it takes so long to kill players with 1M+ HP + HP absorption (AOE) + heals.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
I dont whant this talisman its not fair i can if im lucky get last tali in first stage 20k hp and what is that!
And get very few Badge of Victory have hard time to transcend armor and weapon.
then vote lol, completely disabling it is no option but changing it may be possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by meowbud
400k hp are better than 200k hp ! The best will be to delete all rohan class and just build one, so the game will be balanced after 10 years . And stop to post **** ideeas !
Watever ur smoking, u better stop using it. Its bad for you. HahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by rechi
Yabut one step at a time this is like a damage control change over a complete overhaul of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by rechi
pff Aug 2018 ... ! hahaha ,its free to give a opinion about bad ideeas
Obviously an alt account cmon when was the last time you saw a BRAND NEW PLAYER in this game?Quote:
Originally Posted by rechi
I honestly want to hear the thoughts and reasoning of the people that want to keep the PA tali the same. Lmao
This pa talisman was a epic fail update ever..
its not better if PA tali give 10k psy ?
I wonder this as well, people quitting over it since there is no PVP lolQuote:
Originally Posted by apple5
Told u florian... There is no pvp and you've been arguing with meh. This topic won't change anything. The only thing which has been done so far is that they removed kd's shield.
you name pvp when u killing low lvl ppl ? or when ppl dont have enuf hp to survive to atack back ? or u are so mad because u cant kill so easy as you want .Most of ppl got an advantage to farm mirrors or last map whit pa talisman that s the true . you are looking to kill a pro rumir whit out party ? poor guy there must to be a class who survive to asasin class or ranger combo .Quote:
Originally Posted by White Arctic Fox
I think it kills PVP in so much that at the end of the season, everyone has close to 1m hp or more. It also puts classes that rely on combos at a severe disadvantage (e.g. rangers and guardians), preferring classes that continually dish the same amount of damage over time. It also makes it so that endgame PVP is only accessible for the most hardcore of players that can regularly log in every single day to ensure they get the max badge - so not only do you need OP gear, but also the ability to log every single day, maybe being able to take a 1 week max vacation over a 3 month period. Any "casuals" who log in a couple times a week are severely put at a disadvantage and it shows with their refusal to join any PVP.
I think the badge should be capped at 50k at the upper limit, or as you said add vit instead of flat HP. I also think there should be no PVP defense, and scaling of PvE defense with badge progression instead - giving an incentive for those who just farm to keep coming to PA as well.
Anyone who votes to keep the PA tali as it is now is retarded.
Voted.
i need the pa tali because i am using a normal weapon and the hp where low . whats so dificult to understand ? do you think all rohanian has upgrade weapons and good accesory ? must to be retard to think by this way .
What the hell is the problem in the earth to have additional 200K HP? 1,000 Vit is nothing compare to the damage of Monster in New Map, it will add approx only 20K Hp and 3k pdef. In fact this 200K Hp talisman will get only if you attend PA and enjoy for only1-2 weeks before the PA season end and will reset again once the new season of PA begin. Complaining about PVP because you can't 1 hit your opponent, that is ridiculous!! This will test everybody how good you can use proper combo or the skill and coordination of party to wrecked your opponent effectively without relying so much in 1 shot skill.
well most off ppl whit out hp talisman are dieing by aoe on PA and some retards have fun by this way or to kill a full party . thei want pvp but i saw there e2n and syndicate where ever got the town because thei have no enemy . the enemy are here complaining all the time for everything . GMs whil ignore u anyway because thei need new ppl on rohan and to give a chance to them for survive . i hope 400k hp talisman will come :D :D
Wonder who these 7 people that voted for it to stay as it is. if snow white has the 7 dwarfs this poll got 7 stupids. xD
Here's your 7:
constantinescu
madian
olsen
rechi
robi17
runeee
yubyta
There is PVP if you make it, but you only afk in town and complain ''no pvp'' (for months already, even when the PA badge is reset and I used to pvp/rpk daily). The reason I don't pk/pvp right now is because I'm busy IRL and the time I have is not worth trying to kill people with 1M+ HP, it takes too long and is thus boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraszer
Couldn't agree moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Reapmaster
Because 200k flat HP gets boosted by every % HP boost you have. For Jainus this s 110% hp weapon, 20% guarder, 50% pet, (40% guard for example). people reach 1 million hp no problem, which ****s up the game. If you want to manage PVE you should simply release PVE % attack and defense. This can be tuned separately from PVP, the PA badge should give 1000 vit as max which is plenty of boost for low lvls who want to do PA, and also a nice boost for max geared players but it's not THAT much that if you're a casual player and you can't log every day you basically get anally raped because you have maybe 20k hp on your badge and all the other players have 200k (with 200% scaling ends up to be 600k vs 60k hp).Quote:
Originally Posted by dayday31416
So you wonder what the problem is?
1. People literally quitting because they can't compete with others players who can go to PA every day
2. 200k hp scales up to 600-800k hp and makes every other flat hp item useless
3. 200k hp scales up to such hights that with HP absorption on guarder & healers like Rumir/priest in party, you become somewhat immortal, which makes pvp no fun.
simple, dekan/Rumir players who only benefit from the PA badge because they get a huge amount of extra damage/tankyness. From a selfish point of view, it's better for them, but it ruins the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by snipers3379
*Checks out the Rohan forums for the first time in a year or so*
"I wonder what the Rohanians have been up to during the last time I've been here"
something something 200k HP Talisman something
"Guess I didn't miss anything"
Hai
[QUOTE=White Arctic Fox;362447]There is PVP if you make it, but you only afk in town and complain ''no pvp'' (for months already, even when the PA badge is reset and I used to pvp/rpk daily). The reason I don't pk/pvp right now is because I'm busy IRL and the time I have is not worth trying to kill people with 1M+ HP, it takes too long and is thus boring.
I am very barely post in the 4rum, but short and details is change this PA tali completely!!
Vote to change it!!
Im not posting very often and barely playing but as Ive read this Tali should be PVE oriented modifiers and maybe some PVP defense like 5% idk something very low.
HP gives DKs and Tanky classes too much advantage specially now that every class deals damage.
As everyone knows this is a PVP oriented game so GMs should encourage PVP oriented fixes and events that's the only way this game will keep running.
Farmers keep the economics running.
Hate and PvP a reason to log in at least.
I knew that already on how much boosted will be, no need to specify that details. What I'm talking about is 200K flat hp will be enjoyed only in a short period of times (approx 1-2 weeks) within 3 months and take the advantage to farm in New map.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Arctic Fox
Removing 200K flat Hp is a selfish idea and will benefit only those who have max gear.
The 100k hp talisman is just as bad as the 200k one, instead of 1 million + people get 700-800k HP and you can have that for like a month.Quote:
Originally Posted by dayday31416
The only selfish thing is to keep the PA talisman and not give noobs/people who can't log every day to do the PAs a chance to compete in pvp and pve. I have max gear (and thus max scaling on the talisman) why would I give a f*ck about nerfing the talisman if it literally benefits me more than most other players? I can easily switch class and play something that will kill everything even if you have 1M HP (avenger). I care about the survival of this server and about giving new players a chance, you seem only intrested in having the most HP/Power for yourself like every other a$$hole, but I already knew you were one of those people when you started to tell my alt acount that ''I don't know sh1t about rohan and I don't care about the community''. You can suck it :)
Also as I mentioned in my proposal there will be PVE attack & defense talisman/items to compensate for the HP loss. This makes you able to tune PVE separate from PVP and develop a healthy scenario for both. You are however too dense to understand such simple things
uhh guys u really mad because some noobs got hp talisman . GMs not looking only for pvp and u have to understand the economy game cant work whit 10 pro players who like to 1 hit everyone . Everytime same troll gay where crying on this forum for more benefit for 20 players lol . GMs make a promise to help noobs and this never come . 200k hp for a normal player are a litle bit help after 2 monts of pa to enjoy 1 mont of this **** . Artic stop to be a beggar lol ,u never going to make pvp just killing ppl then playing on alt or running fast on sz . i m sick of ppl like u . i dont want to use a parable for this situation because u re post will be deleted again :))) for real u re atitude are ignorant and violent and i recomend you to go at doctor .:D
I got almost max gear too with my 7 chars +50 in fact it won't really affect even the PA talisman will be nerfed!! But OMG, crying about the 200K flat hp is selfish idea. Don't mind those PPL who can't log in for PA and don't have PA talisman, this is different situation and out of context. The reason why GM made this 200k HP tailsman to force every PPL to join in PA.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Arctic Fox
Instead of removing 200K flat HP, change the 15% PVP to PVE, this is plain and simple!! I don't see any problem in 200K flat HP, unless you are noob in real PVP.
The way I see the Post of the other PPL in jainus. you are just AFK and lowbie killer. You are crying now because you can't kill them, The truth is the idea of removing 200K flat HP is for your own good not for the server. and it is selfish idea that affect the majority and normal PPL.
Forums are still where its at.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrontlinerCDV
We need drama can you speculate as to the possibility of eyeball stealing darkii's epic sword through your access to darkii?
i have 2 mil hp still die to avenger so first they should nerf thier dmg then do something with PA tali. No pa tali u will kill players in seconds...
Just on the off-chance that you're being serious about this being an actual rumor among a few individuals some 7 years later and not making **** up for the sake of it:Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
I didn't disclose Darkii's password with anyone, in fact I never disclosed anyone's password with anyone whatsoever unless I had been given the expressed permission to do so, and I always respected the wish of not-disclosing the password. Shannon didn't have access to Algis even though Algis himself stated that he'd be ok with that. However, since 99% was a group effort and the upper echolon Ex-Lahians asked us not to disclose the password we never did.
Looking back I'm not even sure my if I had the logins to Darkii in the first place anymore(though I do believe I did) as I had been given access to a variety of accounts during my time. This is not me bull****ting, just what I can honestly still remember, it's been 6+ years after all. I also do know I had access to 3bood's Wizard one time when we were leveling in Ronelia, but I most definately did not have any logins for any other account among our "Arab" group outside of this one or these two.
As far as Shannon is concerned, I had given her access to my Defender when she was still a member of ..........- ****, it's been so long I can't remember anymore -, before we had even discussed adding her to 99% and she was with Frank and those other retarded American players from Post-Nemesis. I remember the name Enmity but I don't know with 100% certainty if that was the name they had Post-Merge. In any event, she never had the password unless Darkii gave it to her himself - or somebody else did - and even if she had access to the account, it wouldn't have been in her character to steal at all, case and point being that she didn't do that even when I was considered an opponent like I mentioned 2 sentences before.
You got other rumors running around now that we're no longer here to torment our opposition day-in, day-out?
I totally did not expect a response LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by FrontlinerCDV
Lets just say that rumor started with the biggest not female drama queen in rohan whos name starts with a D.
You should know me better than that. I've never had a reason to lie or pretend or to feign who I was or what to expect of me. You want to know something about me, I'll tell you, never had an issue with being honest.
So yeah if it's Darkii who thought I/we did do that, let me just say that an Epic Sword would have been of no value to me, same with Shannon. I have no idea how and why the Sword is no longer where it was supposed to be, I certainly didn't take it away that night otherwise it would've been put back, but, believe it or not, I'd never stoop as low to steal virtual goods in the first place even if I had remembered the account data.
Taking a wild guess I had access to about 20 accounts with endgame gear during my stay, several of which geared with the best **** the game had to offer up until 2/3 months before we decided to quit. You'd think if I had it in me to betray everybody I wouldn't have settled for an epic sword when I got a 71% DD mace and more at my finger tips. I can tell you that nobody was happy with what I did that one night - and that very much includes myself - but if you for a moment exclude that instance you're going to find a clean track record. People put their trust in me, and that's who I always was and wanted to be recognized for if nothing else.
No it wasnt Darkii although that would have been a good guess. Its someone who quit after Darkii :PQuote:
Originally Posted by FrontlinerCDV
Hm, no clue on that one then.
Oh well dont worry about it then.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrontlinerCDV
What happened to eyeball anyways? finish the story :P
<.< I'm sure you know that one of the most annoying things to me is when somebody refuses to spill the beans just 'cause. The only other meaningful option with a D who I can remember is DarkPulse but he was a chill lad so I doubt it.
I wasn't aware there was a need to "finish" a story. From what I know, Shannon continued playing for a short while after the rest of us quit, I think I talked to her once or twice after I said good bye to the game, might have been more, I'm certain it wasn't a whole lot though, as we had no reason to talk to each other. Skype one day refused to work for me as well, and I could not get that fixed until over a year later, when I contacted Utara to see if he was still alive(which he was at that time).