GM Issue

i want to ask why my friend got banned and u say because he cheat aspd ??

he max aspd is 180 and use dragon armor from item cash +10 aspd and u say he cheat ??

if u have a personal issue with my friend dont use u authority because u are GM and banned people with no reason...

my friend play never use cheat and u say cheat... and he ask u prove what prove u have to make clear if my friend cheater ???

and u warning him if ask one more time u will banned he's ign forum to??? are u GM or u just a child 5 years old ?? are u proffesional staff ??

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Um, probabbly you should try to ask explanation from your friend on attack spam matter. Maybe he is not using cheat, but he's using macro function provided by gaming keyboard / mouse. Eventhough, it's not really a cheat, but the data can be similar as a cheat. Furthermore if your friend is one of those afk'ers in west red soil , cross mountain or cros forest; traininig their battle pet i think the perma ban serve him right as his action actually disturb other people gaming experience.

Ps. I am not accusing, just probably the case have different scenario.

Pss. Will b a good idea if you also post what ur mail to gm, and maybe the community can help ur friend solving this matter.

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Originally Posted by jhembut

Um, probabbly you should try to ask explanation from your friend on attack spam matter. Maybe he is not using cheat, but he's using macro function provided by gaming keyboard / mouse. Eventhough, it's not really a cheat, but the data can be similar as a cheat. Furthermore if your friend is one of those afk'ers in west red soil , cross mountain or cros forest; traininig their battle pet i think the perma ban serve him right as his action actually disturb other people gaming experience.

Ps. I am not accusing, just probably the case have different scenario.

Pss. Will b a good idea if you also post what ur mail to gm, and maybe the community can help ur friend solving this matter.

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no... my friend not stupid enough for using cheat.. he spend every month in this game is $200... if he cheater are u thinking he will spend every month $200 for this game ???
and what for he using aspd cheat if he class is jester(gambler) already got 180 aspd ??? max aspd in this game is 150 what for he using aspd or attack cheat ??

he never go to red soil he only online for lvling and afk in city sometime... and i know very well he never use cheat... and he not using makro keyboard or mouse makro for that... i know him very well... thats why i tell him to ask a prove from this GM.... but this GM cannot give him a solid prove and only say aspd cheat bla bla bla... and warning him if send ticket again he will got banned in forum to... thats why i say this GM is childish... u not a proffesional staff dude...

he is not stupid enough for spend $200 every month only for using cheat and got banned... thats why i say maybe this GM have personal affairs with him... or maybe this GM have a friend and dont like my friend and tell him to banned it and use reason cheats aspd bla bla bla..

Good luck with this. GM word is law here and nothing you say or do in these forums will change that. Your friend is screwed.

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe

Good luck with this. GM word is law here and nothing you say or do in these forums will change that. Your friend is screwed.

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yeah.... i know that... and now maybe i will think twice about play this game anymore... already spend to much and got like this... very disappointed see like this..

This game is dead, and the GMs are the undeads. Of course undeads don`t have mind to think

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Originally Posted by sanzobe

no... my friend not stupid enough for using cheat.. he spend every month in this game is $200... if he cheater are u thinking he will spend every month $200 for this game ???
and what for he using aspd cheat if he class is jester(gambler) already got 180 aspd ??? max aspd in this game is 150 what for he using aspd or attack cheat ??

he never go to red soil he only online for lvling and afk in city sometime... and i know very well he never use cheat... and he not using makro keyboard or mouse makro for that... i know him very well... thats why i tell him to ask a prove from this GM.... but this GM cannot give him a solid prove and only say aspd cheat bla bla bla... and warning him if send ticket again he will got banned in forum to... thats why i say this GM is childish... u not a proffesional staff dude...

he is not stupid enough for spend $200 every month only for using cheat and got banned... thats why i say maybe this GM have personal affairs with him... or maybe this GM have a friend and dont like my friend and tell him to banned it and use reason cheats aspd bla bla bla..

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Doesn't want to be a jack azz, but do u know him in real life and playing next to him everytime? My understanding is; if he not even trying to have his own opinion in the forum, means he probbably know what he did wrong, but ashamed to admit it to his fellow gaming friend.

As much as we hate GM inconsistency, probabbly we should admitted the player bhavior in the game is also horrible to the point myb ill quit this game not because of the game inconsistencies but because of the player behavior

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Originally Posted by mcderpherp

This game is dead, and the GMs are the undeads. Of course undeads don`t have mind to think

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Well said buddy lol

Yeah that's me, but my english not good, so i ask my friend to make thread. I never use cheat, and GM say i use cheat aspd. For what use aspd cheat, my aspd already 176 with gambler buff + apos. And when i said give me a proof that i using cheat, GM respon really not profesional. Hey dude, i spending money in this game, and you banned me because you say i'm using cheat without give a proof. Really bad business !!!!

Thats why i ask u to provide what did u wrote to gm. A bad english can lead to alot of miss comm, a continuous rage will not bring you anywhere.

This is my first email
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I really shock, i never do anything illegal, so i ask what kind illegal activity.
And this is second
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GM answer really nonsense, my job is gambler, and yeah my aspd hit 176 with costume and costume set + apo buff and gambler buff. So i ask him to recheck my char.
This is third email
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i know i can't debate with GM, i will always lose. So i ask him give me the proof that i using cheat. The police can't send someone to the jail just because the police say you;re thief. Police need give the proof, am i right ?
This is last email
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All i said about last email is really unprofesional.

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Originally Posted by vinatin

This is my first email
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I really shock, i never do anything illegal, so i ask what kind illegal activity.
And this is second
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GM answer really nonsense, my job is gambler, and yeah my aspd hit 176 with costume and costume set + apo buff and gambler buff. So i ask him to recheck my char.
This is third email
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i know i can't debate with GM, i will always lose. So i ask him give me the proof that i using cheat. The police can't send someone to the jail just because the police say you;re thief. Police need give the proof, am i right ?
This is last email
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All i said about last email is really unprofesional.

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Here is the thing. This is not a country or city that has police and courts. It is an online game provided by PlayWith Interactive. People are allowed to play here as long as they agree to the Terms of Service - which is accepted by continuing to create an account. In those terms of service you agreed to there is nowhere stating that they must prove or even explain anything to people that they block from playing. This game could disappear from the Internet without any notice or explanation - with no legal requirement to provide one. Your account and/or IP can be blocked at any time - and they would not even have to tell you why. They most certainly do not and will never prove anything to you or me if we are banned. In fact in the almost 9 years I have been around here they have never provided proof for a ban or blockage. This is just he fact of life anyone must accept if they want to play here. They don't care how much you have spent on your account. If they want to shut it down, they will and no proof is needed (though to do so on a 'big spender' I am sure the GMs must provide a good reason for doing it to their management).

Call it unprofessional if you like, but this is their universe. They are the Alpha and the Omega here. We are the peasants that pay the taxes - they are the lords that collect those taxes.

If legit I am sorry your friend got banned for what he says is a misunderstanding. But that is how the online gaming world rolls.

I play online gaming already 15 years, and i know what it is, and I never got banned in any other game i play. I know this is a business, and i don't mind to spending money to buy cash. I just want they give me a proof if i using cheat, just that. Because i never using cheat, never. If the GM see my aspd 280++ maybe 1 week ago, i just want to tell, i go survival, and got aspd buff and raise my aspd from 140 basic to 280. You know somekind of slot machine give you aspd buff. Everyone can wrong, this time the GM is wrong, just open my char, case closed.

If me ill ask to show the screen shoot for better understanding of the case. Every reported case should have screen shoot, and again if u fell u're not guilty u shuld try and ask this first time. Btw did u have other account ? And if yes; is your other account got banned ?

Either you guys did not read what I posted or you failed to understand it.

Ynk / PlayWith Interactive never has nor will it ever provide proof to you or anyone else if they ban you. Nor are they abliged to do so by the very Terms of Service (ToS) you agreed to when you made your account. You can complain until doomsday it will never happen. Nor will any other game operator ever provide proof for banning your account because if you read every game's ToS carefully they have the right to toss you out of the game any time for no reason provided to you whatsoever.

It does not matter if you have 5 years, 10 years or 50 years playing online games. That is the way it is in every game, and any other online service that lets you create an account, that I have seen (and I have been "online" since before there WAS a WWW - and I still have my old 300 baud modem / FIDO BBS software listings to prove it).

End of story. Doubt me? Go read it for yourself -> http://portal.playrohan.com/Common/Html/tos.html

@Jhembut, no i dun have any other account.
@PenguinJoe, It's not easy if you not doing anything wrong but get banned like this. If you already spending time and spending money, and get banned like me, you can't just say ahhh okay forget it just make new account. I dun think you can go easy on that. i'm not doubt about what you say, but i dun think you're a player, maybe you're one of their staff. If you're player, you will scared that will happen to you someday.

There's another thread like this where the playere ban get lifted after throughly investigation by fellow players. Here's what i think you did wrong:
In ur mail to gm u only sayin u never using cheat but there's no good explanation on what went wrong with this case. What i think u should do is: explain to gm that u have 140 aspd unbuffed so the logic of using aspd buff is not making any sense. Regarding auto skill explain u are an gambler and auto skill is not making sense as u never train ur battle pet, you can support this argument if you don't have battle pet gaius as it's pretty useless to use auto skill on bpet without gaius.

As ur id already get banned might as well try to fight back what u think is right. If u not try u definetely lost but if u try u have chance to fix this nuisance. Please bear in mind if u ever use any cheat even only a tiny bit; you should really forget this resolution.

As words of encouragement:
1. I did manage to help my friend getting back his lost item after gm wrongly accussed him for wrong report.
2. There's a case similar like this when a player get banned for map hack in catacomb, after sending the proof provided by other player, his ban is lifted after couple days. If u search the forum throughly u might find that thread.

@Penguinjoe : yes i'm aware of that TOS, but what u did here is not helping anyone. As much as i concern you are not Seal player nor you understand how the system actually works. Please try to dig a little bit to the forum, you might found the thread i mean on point no 2 above.

you can use more valid method for checking your aspd, like math or investigating how does your aspd get that high in details. there is a game that have the same ToS and the law is absolute you cant change the ban by sending "im not using cheat". but its all came back to the GM for the ban just send them more solid proof calculating how does your aspd go that high with in game screenshot per buff effect.

maybe next time before you play or hunting around, make sure you screen shot all your item with the attack speed option too and calculate it so you can prove to GM that your character is legit and clean. for example : shoes of wanderer.G+7 gives 25 attack speed with additional option 10 attack speed so the total is 35, and so on, and so on.
have a good day.

but still, maybe this method should be used by all people before playing in seal to keep away from weird banning. first ever "must screenshot to keep away from ban" game

Here's a little advice from me. Unless you're taking part with the developers, treat this game as a game, not a business. Just because you spend a lot of money on this game, doesn't mean you can get a special treatment from the GM team. You're a player, like the rest of us, the difference is you buy something from them, while some of us didn't. Does that makes you immune if you break the rules? Of course not. And newsflash, you're not the only one who spend money on this game, so be a little humble about it. Many people spent money on seal eternal destiny, yet it still got reset to seal blade of destiny, without any explanation. We just being informed that seal eternal destiny will be reset to other kind of seal game. Some of us dissatisfied with this and some of us just go with the flow and enjoy the next game without bragging about "money spender's" privilege. If you have complaint about GM, then do it right, accusing them as unprofessional or such won't get you anywhere. Good luck with this issue, I hope you get a satisfactory closure.

Now about the GM issue. I do have a little issue about today's GM. They're too quiet and I can hardly socialise with them. I know it's just a matter of personal character or maybe they're just too tired or busy to talk with us. But that's not how the community works. Although some people will oppose my suggestion, I'll recommend you(GM) to stop some weekly event(s) and create interesting monthly or bi weekly event instead. Maybe with that, you'll get more time to know us players and having fun again with this game

I'm not sure if you guys noticed that the animation of a gambler attacking a target is different when viewed from another screen. The attack speed seems really high if you are the observer compared to the rate of speed if you're watching your Gambler from your screen. Now, the GM's will check your equipment just to be sure and if the numbers doesn't add up then you get banned for cheating.

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Originally Posted by amalager

I'm not sure if you guys noticed that the animation of a gambler attacking a target is different when viewed from another screen. The attack speed seems really high if you are the observer compared to the rate of speed if you're watching your Gambler from your screen. Now, the GM's will check your equipment just to be sure and if the numbers doesn't add up then you get banned for cheating.

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agreed. i've been accused of using cheat because of different view of attack speed that show up in other players screen.

he / she may doesnt understand that high aspd meta abuse

it just like rapid shot meta from gunner which is more like a bug

we already tried to show it to GM. but they didnt believe it

better direct it to their dev instead to GM. GM just a customer service

dear GM, my item missing from mail. it assume has taken more than 30 days after retrieve to sender. please bring it back. my id: Usunimed nick: Betty Server: Duran

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Originally Posted by amaterasuou

Just because you spend a lot of money on this game, doesn't mean you can get a special treatment from the GM team. You're a player, like the rest of us, the difference is you buy something from them, while some of us didn't. Does that makes you immune if you break the rules? Of course not.

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How about these guys :
[Gambler]Marcellusss[Messiah] : able to doing insane damage, like 18.000++ or 1 hit kill u.
[Gambler]Blazeheart[Messiah]: same as marcelluss but I think he's worse.
he can kill everyone in 1 shooted. even someone who wearing HTBS normal DICE.XG+12 + DScaleDClaw with 40.000++ HP can be 1 shooted. Amazing...
why I keep telling this? bcuz im wondering, how is that possible ?
Where are they now ? still alive and u can meet them at elim sometimes. Where's GM ? they just don't care......maybe....
are they spend money ? Probably. one of them have the best gear in seal.
ARE THEY IMMUNE FROM RULES ? YES, THEY ARE. NO ONE CAN TOUCH THEM. THEY ARE INVINCIBLE.

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How about these guys :
[Gambler]Marcellusss[Messiah] : able to doing insane damage, like 18.000++ or 1 hit kill u.
[Gambler]Blazeheart[Messiah]: same as marcelluss but I think he's worse.
he can kill everyone in 1 shooted. even someone who wearing HTBS normal DICE.XG+12 + DScaleDClaw with 40.000++ HP can be 1 shooted. Amazing...
why I keep telling this? bcuz im wondering, how is that possible ?
Where are they now ? still alive and u can meet them at elim sometimes. Where's GM ? they just don't care......maybe....
are they spend money ? Probably. one of them have the best gear in seal.
ARE THEY IMMUNE FROM RULES ? YES, THEY ARE. NO ONE CAN TOUCH THEM. THEY ARE INVINCIBLE.

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I think Marcelluss got banned during the Team Battle event.

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Originally Posted by robrian03

I think Marcelluss got banned during the Team Battle event.

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Meh .. he's very much alive & kickin' ..

It's just yesterday he's using MP selling IM ..

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Originally Posted by robrian03

I think Marcelluss got banned during the Team Battle event.

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u missing my point. they should be banned permanently......from this game.
I think GM and Staff still positive that they are clean and not using any cheat engine/Bug or something like that. GM and staff should send ticket to YnK in KR and ask them, "hi, is this damage possible as a Gambler'? Im pretty sure they have a lot of proof to send.

Just think about other players who get 1 shooted by them, like this : "WTF, I spend a hundred or thousand just to get 1 shooted?, What is wrong with this game?"

for GM and Staff, is this fair for the others ? they spend their money in this game just to get killed in 1 hit by a GAMBLER ? very very bad business......

Well the one that I'm seeing in game is Marcellusss with 3 s at the end...