Change server option please GM and Ohm blessing event upg sale maybe?

So I was thinking here while doing some stuff online and I know some other games have the option where you can go back to the server you choose for different characters and stuff. On this one you have to exit completely out of rohan and do it all over again some times when you run more than 1 client it crashes so would that be a option for future help with our players. And its been a very very long time since we havnt had upg sale, that would be great cause I see alot of people now selling their old stuff since this balance patch came out. Well just wanted to post this for future reference hope to hear back from some of the departments there :)

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Originally Posted by sheljamforever86

So I was thinking here while doing some stuff online and I know some other games have the option where you can go back to the server you choose for different characters and stuff. On this one you have to exit completely out of rohan and do it all over again some times when you run more than 1 client it crashes so would that be a option for future help with our players. And its been a very very long time since we havnt had upg sale, that would be great cause I see alot of people now selling their old stuff since this balance patch came out. Well just wanted to post this for future reference hope to hear back from some of the departments there :)

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this would be a great idea! maybe they are working on this one...not impossible to happen.

To change characters on the same server you do not have to exit the game completely. There is a change character icon that lets you choose another.
You do have to exit completely to select a different server. The design of the current client is such that it is not possible to split apart the login, server selection and game playing parts.
If it were designed in a modular fashion, it would be possible, but sadly Rohan's designers did not know how to make their programs modular when they designed this client. To change it would require a full redesign and rewrite of the client. I cannot see PlayWith investing that much money in this game to do this redesign.

Upgrades: I do not expect to see another Upgrade sale happening. The current staff do not like upgrades and do not want to continue their use beyond those that already exist. Myself and a few others are submitting proposals to PlayWith to create Weapons that would help those that cannot afford upgrades, but would still like to play in the Jainus server. We will need to see how far our contacts in the support team can drive this with their bosses.

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe

To change characters on the same server you do not have to exit the game completely. There is a change character icon that lets you choose another.
You do have to exit completely to select a different server. The design of the current client is such that it is not possible to split apart the login, server selection and game playing parts.
If it were designed in a modular fashion, it would be possible, but sadly Rohan's designers did not know how to make their programs modular when they designed this client. To change it would require a full redesign and rewrite of the client. I cannot see PlayWith investing that much money in this game to do this redesign.

Upgrades: I do not expect to see another Upgrade sale happening. The current staff do not like upgrades and do not want to continue their use beyond those that already exist. Myself and a few others are submitting proposals to PlayWith to create Weapons that would help those that cannot afford upgrades, but would still like to play in the Jainus server. We will need to see how far our contacts in the support team can drive this with their bosses.

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it isnt that big deal to add 1 button "change server"

and about upgrades, I agree that they should sell them all the time and make even cheaper for newcomers - This would be finally BALANCE PATCH - make all things accessible to everybody !!!

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Originally Posted by jiryBB

it isnt that big deal to add 1 button "change server"

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Adding a button that says "change server"? No, not too tough. It is what happens after you click that button that is so tough. ;)

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe

Adding a button that says "change server"? No, not too tough. It is what happens after you click that button that is so tough. ;)

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every single average programmer would be able to do that

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Originally Posted by jiryBB

every single average programmer would be able to do that

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You're obviously not one of them.

aah dont make that big :)
It would be at character selection screen, you wouldnt have to rebuild whole server, that button could do only 2 things, 1st to logoff you from current server and 2nd direct you to server selection screen.
I see it as very simple couple lines only implementation

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Originally Posted by jiryBB

every single average programmer would be able to do that

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Originally Posted by Baked12345

No it is not :D It would take to rebuild the whole server just to have that button.
If you have some background at programming, you'll find it soo difficult to do that.
It's not just buttons and stuff we're talking lol

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Originally Posted by jiryBB

aah dont make that big :)
It would be at character selection screen, you wouldnt have to rebuild whole server, that button could do only 2 things, 1st to logoff you from current server and 2nd direct you to server selection screen.
I see it as very simple couple lines only implementation

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Really? Can you by chance do it even if you had their source code?
How is your session management knowledge when sharing session data between different physical servers?

I really would like to see what you think the rohanclient.exe architecture is.

(just as an FYI I have been a senior software developer specializing in client server development architecture for over 30 years)

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe

Really? Can you by chance do it even if you had their source code?
How is your session management knowledge when sharing session data between different physical servers?

I really would like to see what you think the rohanclient.exe architecture is.

(just as an FYI I have been a senior software developer specializing in client server development architecture for over 30 years)

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With my little knowledge of programming I know it's hard making those changes with current architecture :)

of course I dont know their source code, but yes, I believe its as simple as I said. You can simply close current session and open newone.
but better would be to remake whole client instead of such things

to close the current session you need the authentication data to re-establish a new https session with the web server. The only server that ever sees that data is the web server - whose session ends as soon as you have chosen your game server. There is no physical or logical connection between the game server (aka map server) and the web server. By the time you close the game server session there is no web server to go back to. The client needs to restart in order to set up a new web session via the log-in.

There are very few people left within PWI that can do the restructuring necessary to do unauthenticated invocation of the server list. As you say it makes more since to remake a new client from the ground up (wouldn't hurt considering the obsolete geomind graphics engine they are using). They are better off making a REAL Rohan 2 (not that silly RTS/MOBA one they are working on).

hmm thanx for explanation how this client authenticate itself :)
even if it directs you to login screen would be helpful (because of loading time)

anyway they said they are working on new client, so lets hope it will be better and stable :)

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Originally Posted by jiryBB

hmm thanx for explanation how this client authenticate itself :)
even if it directs you to login screen would be helpful (because of loading time)

anyway they said they are working on new client, so lets hope it will be better and stable :)

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Let's cross our fingers :p

I really hope they are working on a new client. The old one is so obsolete and has so many issues it stopped being funny years ago. Hope the redesign ditches that horrible GameGuard rootkit in favor of something that actually works.

I have no problem with client side antihack systems - as long as they do their job without intruding in my gaming with endless false positives.

Yeah like blocking some programs like Skype while I am running rohan. I have to completely close it and then start the program :(

Everybody hates Gameguard - even in every other game I have seen that uses it, not just Rohan.

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe

(just as an FYI I have been a senior software developer specializing in client server development architecture for over 30 years)

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So you were working in client server development architecture in 1985? And now are you drinking whisky with french ambassador?

And you think I wasn't? I gave up whiskey almost as long ago while our friend the french ambassador was prolly nothing more than a gleam in his daddy's eye. ;)

In 1985 I was developing the ATM subhost network for CIBC using 3600 Assembler at the ATM and subhost controller. Subhost attached via SNA LU-0 to an IMS backend. ATMs via B-Loop. Client server my friend ;)

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Originally Posted by Baked12345

Ooooh too good to have you here Penguin.
I just can't take too much of this programming stuff that is why art is my forte. lols

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Lol what art?:confused: