this game SCAMMED me! :(

yesterday i buy 5 SES and it was "ok". i mean 4 failed, 1 worked. but today i buy 5 ancient ses, 3 failed, 1 work and i got 1 left. the ancient ses cost me 1250 RPs and when i check the skill it says it only lasts 1 month? what?.. that's 12 $ only for a month of having a stupid skill raised! and it's not even a good one. so is there a way to at least make that skill permanent? how should i know ancient ses is temporary? there was no description that i could see when i bought it from exchange market. i will not make charge-back on my paysafecard because i know i'll get banned this way. but now idk what to do. i'm willing to pay more just to make that skill permanent.. so that it's not a complete loss. skill is phantom crow btw. i didn't have any other skill raised to 6 before because i'm lvl 20. i thought ancient ses is like normal ses except it gives better chance! wtf

when u make skill to lvl 6 its permanent
when u make skill to lvl 7 its Only for 30 days....

always read all the info before u buy something on em ,

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Originally Posted by elico007

when u make skill to lvl 6 its permanent
when u make skill to lvl 7 its Only for 30 days....

always read all the info before u buy something on em ,

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i wanted to buy permanent costume and it says they got 3 sockets? so if i put spirits stones in sockets will it be permanent? or temporary too? and can i remove items from sockets if i get better spirit stones later?

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Originally Posted by gunwind

i wanted to buy permanent costume and it says they got 3 sockets? so if i put spirits stones in sockets will it be permanent? or temporary too? and can i remove items from sockets if i get better spirit stones later?

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sockets are 30 days also.

You better leave that game now while you can and save your money for better things.

I kekked seeing this topics title, I kekked hard.

https://media.serious.io/fee7c6762e76453a/serious.gif

(it's your own ignorance that scammed you)

this is rohan.

I don't see reason to complain for failed SES as they're bought on EM and not IM. IM ones are 100% guarantee unless otherwise specified and are a permanent lvl 6 boost.
Lv 7 (ancient SES) is never permanent and is only 30 days.

Everything you buy from the EM is done so at own responsibility. If there is no description, it is up to you to investigate. It's always viable to send a support ticket to request for a full stat overview of EM items, or to make a forum post in order to have your questions answered. "Assuming that", is not a valid excuse for a refund in any way. Besides, you got exactly what you paid for - no reason for a refund.

I also don't understand why you would upgrade a "not even a good skill", rather than the good ones.
Not to mention that having lv 7 skills at character lvl 20 is redundant and rather a waste of money to begin with, anyway.

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Originally Posted by gunwind

yesterday i buy 5 SES and it was "ok". i mean 4 failed, 1 worked. but today i buy 5 ancient ses, 3 failed, 1 work and i got 1 left. the ancient ses cost me 1250 RPs and when i check the skill it says it only lasts 1 month? what?.. that's 12 $ only for a month of having a stupid skill raised! and it's not even a good one. so is there a way to at least make that skill permanent? how should i know ancient ses is temporary? there was no description that i could see when i bought it from exchange market. i will not make charge-back on my paysafecard because i know i'll get banned this way. but now idk what to do. i'm willing to pay more just to make that skill permanent.. so that it's not a complete loss. skill is phantom crow btw. i didn't have any other skill raised to 6 before because i'm lvl 20. i thought ancient ses is like normal ses except it gives better chance! wtf

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Welcome to Rohan. It has been this way at Open Beta. It has been this way for 8 years. It will be this way until they say good night and shut the doors for good.
SES are permanent. ASES are 30-day. always has been, always will be. There is no scam there. Spirit stones and patterns are 30 day. dungeon mounts (if you can get them) are 30 day. The longest running hunter kits are 30 day. Temporary costumes are 30 day.
EM SES and ASES (dropped in game) have a low (10-25%) chance of success for a reason. Because they are freely available as mob drops. The IM ones - the "Radiant" SES/ASES - have 100% success rate. Perhaps instead of spending more for ingame ses from EM or farmed, you simply buy the IM ones rather than complain about games of chance.

Now rather than rant about how you were cheated, you simply asked questions in here before you spent your rohan points on stuff you were uncertain about. We would have helped you understand the commercial nature of the game.

To your post about permanent costumes further along:

There is no such thing as permanent stones for sockets. All of them have a max of 30 days. Costumes use patterns that you get from the IM.

Bottom Line: This is not TERA or Aion or any other game except Rohan. It's rules of play and business model will different than other games. You need to come to an accommodation with them just like you have to in any other game. In the case of timed items like ASES, spirit stones and PATTERNS, PlayWith has to make their moneh somehow. How else do you expect them to keep this game running if you are not buying items like these on a month-to-month basis?

At the end of the day there is no such thing as a truly free to play online game. Anybody that says different is feeding you lies. However if you are truly interested in playing for almost free, you can farm and sell stuff in the EM to make ecash to use in buying IM goods.

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Originally Posted by gunwind

yesterday i buy 5 SES and it was "ok". i mean 4 failed, 1 worked. but today i buy 5 ancient ses, 3 failed, 1 work and i got 1 left. the ancient ses cost me 1250 RPs and when i check the skill it says it only lasts 1 month? what?.. that's 12 $ only for a month of having a stupid skill raised! and it's not even a good one. so is there a way to at least make that skill permanent? how should i know ancient ses is temporary? there was no description that i could see when i bought it from exchange market. i will not make charge-back on my paysafecard because i know i'll get banned this way. but now idk what to do. i'm willing to pay more just to make that skill permanent.. so that it's not a complete loss. skill is phantom crow btw. i didn't have any other skill raised to 6 before because i'm lvl 20. i thought ancient ses is like normal ses except it gives better chance! wtf

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In the IM there is radiant ancient ses thats 100% 30 days lvl 7. The ancient ses that you purchased has same probability as ses.


Also why would you want phantom crow 7? str avengers suck now XD

@Costume question:

Costume is perm but the patterns you purchase from the IM. Example you might want 1 str 1 vit 1 melee attack whereas some1 else might want 1 int 1 vit 1 hp etc. You buy the patterns on the IM and you can switch patterns in and out IIRC.

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Also why would you want phantom crow 7? str avengers suck now XD

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When was thew last time you rolled a dhan from lvl 1?

Because the guy rolled a dhan, he is lvl 20 and frankly AGI is useless on a dhan at <lvl 50. Str and PP is all he really has to use on a noob char and an extra 2 points in crow & PP are worth their weight in gold at that level.

Depending if you run on EM or not.
Agi twins remain the cheapest twins to buy (you can buy 4 of them for little as 150-200RPS - which nets you almost a guaranteed full set hart+keena... although I needed 8 attempts on my Earths, but w.e.)

RPs doesn't appear to be the problem for OP as he can waste it on useless SES's and ASES's. I'd rather waste it on permanent stuff, but that's just me.
Anyway, 300 AGI at that lvl is a little above OP, not mentioning a 1500% AGI crit boost (or 2000% for the matter). It also nets you enough evasion for that level mobs. In the meantime, Earth twins can be saved for.

Your only issue would be enough crit %.

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When was thew last time you rolled a dhan from lvl 1?

Because the guy rolled a dhan, he is lvl 20 and frankly AGI is useless on a dhan at <lvl 50. Str and PP is all he really has to use on a noob char and an extra 2 points in crow & PP are worth their weight in gold at that level.

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Commiting a 7 on a skill you shouldnt have to get to lvl 50 is just absurd.

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

Commiting a 7 on a skill you shouldnt have to get to lvl 50 is just absurd.

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Wacked out but then again, half this community is so yea, I didn't expect any different.

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Commiting a 7 on a skill you shouldnt have to get to lvl 50 is just absurd.

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I have to agree on this >.>

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

Commiting a 7 on a skill you shouldnt have to get to lvl 50 is just absurd.

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Originally Posted by snipers334

Wacked out but then again, half this community is so yea, I didn't expect any different.

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Originally Posted by RBNXD

I have to agree on this >.>

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But remember that you still have to GET to level 50 and since it is on the 1st page anything that speeds that process - especially with a dhan is a bonus. After all we are talking about irohan here not some pserver where leveling is so quick you don't even need to look at akhma.

But hey, top each their own. It's not like anybody around here levels from 1 anymore (except maybe fresh fish the boat like the OP).

its not that hard to hit 50 seriously.

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its not that hard to hit 50 seriously.

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Not if you are a casual player only spending an hour or so per every other day on it. Not everybody spends every waking hour playing an old worn out game like Rohan.

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe

Not if you are a casual player only spending an hour or so per every other day on it. Not everybody spends every waking hour playing an old worn out game like Rohan.

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With the lvl 15 costume? cmon that thing is immortality!

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

its not that hard to hit 50 seriously.

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I've never levled a character past 50 from scratch.

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Originally Posted by Chawizzawd

I've never levled a character past 50 from scratch.

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Not even that noob warlock?

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Originally Posted by Chawizzawd

I've never levled a character past 50 from scratch.

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Talking about the past:

step 1: make a lvl 1 char
step 2: step 2 wait for a login event with good rewards (hk/scrolls/seals/pets/costumes)
step 3: login your lvl 1 char
step 4: get all fancy rewards
step 5: lvl your char without armour to 50 eZ, np _XD-PRO-x3 ok?

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Talking about the past:

step 1: make a lvl 1 char
step 2: step 2 wait for a login event with good rewards (hk/scrolls/seals/pets/costumes)
step 3: login your lvl 1 char
step 4: get all fancy rewards
step 5: lvl your char without armour to 50 eZ, np _XD-PRO-x3 ok?

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Dude that is a brilliant idea o.o

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its not that hard to hit 50 seriously.

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I know someone who has been 75 for a year. It's hard when you're a free and casual player or simply just a noob. XD

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Originally Posted by aliencreature

I know someone who has been 75 for a year. It's hard when you're a free and casual player or simply just a noob. XD

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that is just pure laziness. And dont worry I am an expert on that front too.

free is nice but if you want to be one of the OP you need $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Dude that is a brilliant idea o.o

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You have no idea how many of these things I did in the past at different accounts, rohan was easy life you don't need to spend $ you just need to play it smart. However currently there is a lvl requirement on events so you can't log lvl 1 chars anymore and claim rewards (I think). Same goes for rohanopoly if it ever returns, lvl requirement (already was like that the last time, opposed to when it was just released I think).

In the past you could also make an account, make a lvl 1 char, not log it in for say 4-5 months then they'd pop a ''return to rohan event'' the account would get loaded with gifts, you log it in and BAM easy lvl 80 free with 100% ses/ases/costumes and so on.

People dont know how easy they have it.

I used to have 8 accounts illegal bot just to farm edwin/bedron parts how else do you think botsmall sam got all his 27 kids into college?

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People dont know how easy they have it.

I used to have 8 accounts illegal bot just to farm edwin/bedron parts how else do you think botsmall sam got all his 27 kids into college?

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yet your whole life sums up to rohan lmao xD


shawn like :|

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yet your whole life sums up to rohan lmao xD


shawn like :|

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Katar mastery only works with dagger now i rage quit!

jk I got 10 wizzies going all day!

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Not even that noob warlock?

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Bought it.

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You have no idea how many of these things I did in the past at different accounts, rohan was easy life you don't need to spend $ you just need to play it smart. However currently there is a lvl requirement on events so you can't log lvl 1 chars anymore and claim rewards (I think). Same goes for rohanopoly if it ever returns, lvl requirement (already was like that the last time, opposed to when it was just released I think).

In the past you could also make an account, make a lvl 1 char, not log it in for say 4-5 months then they'd pop a ''return to rohan event'' the account would get loaded with gifts, you log it in and BAM easy lvl 80 free with 100% ses/ases/costumes and so on.

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Dude ik i am just trying to be ignorant ><

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe

When was thew last time you rolled a dhan from lvl 1?

Because the guy rolled a dhan, he is lvl 20 and frankly AGI is useless on a dhan at <lvl 50. Str and PP is all he really has to use on a noob char and an extra 2 points in crow & PP are worth their weight in gold at that level.

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Actually with less gear agi is better than str. Yes you have the for sure crits from PP but spending a lil time you can make a 2-4% crit dagger since pre 50 katars dont yield much benefits.

Agi now would be incredible right now 1100% agi towards crits.... O_O nuts!

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Originally Posted by StrOwnz

Actually with less gear agi is better than str. Yes you have the for sure crits from PP but spending a lil time you can make a 2-4% crit dagger since pre 50 katars dont yield much benefits.

Agi now would be incredible right now 1100% agi towards crits.... O_O nuts!

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You don't get enough agi <50 to really be viable. Keep in mind too that the new skill changes are now level-graduated in that you can't max out points in worthwhile skills/buffs at low levels. Previously as soon as a skill opened you could max it out if you wanted.

I might roll a dhan again to see how well agi works at the lower end. But I'm not expecting anything exceptional.

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe

You don't get enough agi <50 to really be viable. Keep in mind too that the new skill changes are now level-graduated in that you can't max out points in worthwhile skills/buffs at low levels. Previously as soon as a skill opened you could max it out if you wanted.

I might roll a dhan again to see how well agi works at the lower end. But I'm not expecting anything exceptional.

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I am 1 shooting mobs 30-40 lvls higher than me with craftman katars+3(lvl35) 7% crit, 50% hp, 6% hp leech, 2% mp leech, agi twins, 2x +5 artisan SDV lvl30, Ench Pluion set, Chimera accs set. O.o

am lvl35 atm full agi

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe

You don't get enough agi <50 to really be viable. Keep in mind too that the new skill changes are now level-graduated in that you can't max out points in worthwhile skills/buffs at low levels. Previously as soon as a skill opened you could max it out if you wanted.

I might roll a dhan again to see how well agi works at the lower end. But I'm not expecting anything exceptional.

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Agi Dhans are really OP PJ, should be easy to lvl one.

And honestly back in the day I started rohan with an agi dhan main, It worked back then already without all the fancy stuff. Now if you get agi twins and a dagger with some crit & abs you're good to go solo hk 1 shotting mobs easily.

Also PVP wise agi dhan is the best character lvl<50 in my opinion.

Agi dhans are fiiiine :P