why do have party if thersno party buff this game getting worse and worde

soon this game going go down cause the keep nerffing chacters an party buff
no since having dang party with out party buffs messed up psy sheild how we gonna do those harder dungeons with out party buff not gonna spend more money till they fix it worthless also dang upgrade weaponis worthless now every one one hits my chacter but i can only hit them for 100 plz to many hackers in this game >.< its geting rediculous really 8 yrs in this game it just keeps get worse not better imnot gonna waste another dime niether is my husband hope yur happy

Slangs everywhere

party not balanced with out party buffs someof us are pve players

Defender has EMPOWER party BUFF
-30% boost in attack force and 45% boost in PDEF (lvl7)

Guardian has CRITICAL AURA party BUFF
-7% increase in Critical Attack and 25% boost in attack force (lvl7)

and these 2 classes are updated balance classes already.

@ GarciaSmexy - I guess your talking on the recent UPDATE balance patch.

Too many people seems to use the Wiz Shield to do everything else with other characters and stuff. What they haven't seen is that the boost every class is getting they wont need to use the same strategies from the past and it will be easier to grind all over the game.

Hmm I guess some players forgot to check on the other classes as they updated them...

Recently when you have those party buffs from the Human... its seems nice to grind all the time :D

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Too many people seems to use the Wiz Shield to do everything else with other characters and stuff. What they haven't seen is that the boost every class is getting they wont need to use the same strategies from the past and it will be easier to grind all over the game.

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I think you are playing this game more on the forum, than playing the client.
What strategy should you apply when the warlock shield is 40 sec?
Come with your impressive strategy and tell us how you farm alone with the warlock self buffed? considering that temp buffs and alm will not be available anymore.

The change is weird for sure. I guess they aren't supposed to farm as much solo anymore :/
Without shield a mage is fked in pve. Sad but true.

They changed it more to the pvp part. Don't think it's such a good idea though.

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I think you are playing this game more on the forum, than playing the client.
What strategy should you apply when the warlock shield is 40 sec?
Come with your impressive strategy and tell us how you farm alone with the warlock self buffed? considering that temp buffs and alm will not be available anymore.

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Solo? Shouldn't, anyway.
Other than that? VIT twins, AD weapon, max pdf armour with crit. DD (mix up with min.dmg if you do receive min. dmg from mobs 3/2 is a good ratio), costume+patterns (=240 pdef + 180 VIT) , HP absorb - time your aoe's for optimal leeching, along with your HP coil.. etc. etc.

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Solo? Shouldn't, anyway.
Other than that? VIT twins, AD weapon, max pdf armour with crit. DD (mix up with min.dmg if you do receive min. dmg from mobs 3/2 is a good ratio), costume+patterns (=240 pdef + 180 VIT) , HP absorb - time your aoe's for optimal leeching, along with your HP coil.. etc. etc.

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You are from the French or Flamish part in Belgium? :P
Otherwise try a warlock with vit twins and than come back and edit your post.
With vit twins your dmg will be very bad that you will not be able to kill the mobs with high hp.
We talk here about a medium player not crazy items.
Otherwise I bring you to the point to see that their balance patch it so impressive that now you have to pay to win against mobs (costume + patterns)...

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You are from the French or Flamish part in Belgium? :P
Otherwise try a warlock with vit twins and than come back and edit your post.
With vit twins your dmg will be very bad that you will not be able to kill the mobs with high hp.
We talk here about a medium player not crazy items.
Otherwise I bring you to the point to see that their balance patch it so impressive that now you have to pay to win against mobs (costume + patterns)...

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Flemish part here :) .

I'd also care to disagree with your statement. I have played the "weaker classes" of the game for the past couple years (I invite you to try a scout pre-changes for example). I have also played both wizard and warlock without any 'good' gear at all.
Having vit twins may reduce your damage, but it will not make it anywhere near bad. Mind you, you should also sport an INT-twin set in addition (after all, you can wear 2 sets).

Current damage output from skills are overall high enough to kill mobs with ease. With or without VIT twins. Medium player or not, having a dedicated farm weapon is and has always been a necessity if you cannot afford an upgrade/epic weapon. It's how the game has always been played prior to these weapons, anyway. Eventually, AD weapons are fairly cheap to make in comparison to DD ones.
Naturally, this same weapon should sport the MA/INT stats in addition to your 3x AD 1xedoneh-hp/mp leech.

Scouts have had it way harder, so have other classes.
Mind you, dhans used to only get a party if they were having either scrolls or seals - talking about 'p2p'.

The costume is also a one-time buy and still a better investment than most other choices at the moment. Plus it's not an extreme maintenance.

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soon this game going go down cause the keep nerffing chacters an party buff
no since having dang party with out party buffs messed up psy sheild how we gonna do those harder dungeons with out party buff not gonna spend more money till they fix it worthless also dang upgrade weaponis worthless now every one one hits my chacter but i can only hit them for 100 plz to many hackers in this game >.< its geting rediculous really 8 yrs in this game it just keeps get worse not better imnot gonna waste another dime niether is my husband hope yur happy

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Game is evolving into something new. A game that does not change over time is boring and becomes boring to play. Now you have something new to learn how to play. Either learn to play with the new game mechanics or find another game to play.

I for one welcome the changes where winning or losing it is all on you. No excuses like "You won because you had almy and dex and str buffs and I didn't" anymore.

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I think you are playing this game more on the forum, than playing the client.
What strategy should you apply when the warlock shield is 40 sec?
Come with your impressive strategy and tell us how you farm alone with the warlock self buffed? considering that temp buffs and alm will not be available anymore.

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Since when is a Warlock supposed to be an effective solo farming class? If you want to farm alone use the same strategy as any other DPS class.

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Game is evolving into something new. A game that does not change over time is boring and becomes boring to play. Now you have something new to learn how to play. Either learn to play with the new game mechanics or find another game to play.

I for one welcome the changes where winning or losing it is all on you. No excuses like "You won because you had almy and dex and str buffs and I didn't" anymore.



Since when is a Warlock supposed to be an effective solo farming class? If you want to farm alone use the same strategy as any other DPS class.

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So for you the warlock is in the same category of dmg per second class as guardian, templar or dhan?
I will try to explain to you. If you don't understand I will explain again, and again...
Guardian is str... usually. Str gives defense. So when you buf put a point to str, buf your defense is also increasing. It is ok so far?
Guardian have protection which for a +9 glacial it is giving a lot of defense.
Templar have mb, which interestingly is not 40 sec like is the warlock shield...
Now warlock is int build and int don't give pdef gives only a bit of mdef. Don't have any protection to increase the armour defense, no skill to transform his int in pdef, only a shield that now is 40 sec.
PS: Play the client not on forum...

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So for you the warlock is in the same category of dmg per second class as guardian, templar or dhan?
I will try to explain to you. If you don't understand I will explain again, and again...
Guardian is str... usually. Str gives defense. So when you buf put a point to str, buf your defense is also increasing. It is ok so far?
Guardian have protection which for a +9 glacial it is giving a lot of defense.
Templar have mb, which interestingly is not 40 sec like is the warlock shield...
Now warlock is int build and int don't give pdef gives only a bit of mdef. Don't have any protection to increase the armour defense, no skill to transform his int in pdef, only a shield that now is 40 sec.
PS: Play the client not on forum...

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LMFFFAO!
You have some serious balls to tell the old man how to rohan. Here is a though if you dont mind play your warlock full vit and know how to time your CC skills and shields. When you have mastered that pls do come and tell us how it went :)

Btw dps locks dont work with how much dps is in the game go full vit for better results ;D

Hi yeah I guess you missed the memo.

Empower
Crit aura
Priest and templar ultimate skill
Loop
group alm
Group mortal immune (kappa)

need I go on?

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So for you the warlock is in the same category of dmg per second class as guardian, templar or dhan?
I will try to explain to you. If you don't understand I will explain again, and again...
Guardian is str... usually. Str gives defense. So when you buf put a point to str, buf your defense is also increasing. It is ok so far?
Guardian have protection which for a +9 glacial it is giving a lot of defense.
Templar have mb, which interestingly is not 40 sec like is the warlock shield...
Now warlock is int build and int don't give pdef gives only a bit of mdef. Don't have any protection to increase the armour defense, no skill to transform his int in pdef, only a shield that now is 40 sec.
PS: Play the client not on forum...

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A good warlock dont need int shield for starters we got upgrades, dark message got buffed, you have mirror and fake death, mad speed with sprint scroll and dragon lvl 3 and above all else you have unlimited venges that only cost 300k

Lets be serious here warlock number one line of defense is keeping the dps that can kill you disabled. Aside from break ability which you reserve for priests you got slows, stuns, stat drains, lvl drop, prevent pet you need to blow your load of disables then die and venge back in.

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A good warlock dont need int shield for starters we got upgrades, dark message got buffed, you have mirror and fake death, mad speed with sprint scroll and dragon lvl 3 and above all else you have unlimited venges that only cost 300k

Lets be serious here warlock number one line of defense is keeping the dps that can kill you disabled. Aside from break ability which you reserve for priests you got slows, stuns, stat drains, lvl drop, prevent pet you need to blow your load of disables then die and venge back in.

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Thx for the complete explanation >.<

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

Hi yeah I guess you missed the memo.

Empower
Crit aura
Priest and templar ultimate skill
Loop
group alm
Group mortal immune (kappa)

need I go on?

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You mean have the pt back up the Lock as he is the main DPS? Idk but isn't a Guardian more effective main DPS in a pt?
Ohh and you forgot Rumirs 25% all pt stat boost to >.<

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A good warlock dont need int shield for starters we got upgrades, dark message got buffed, you have mirror and fake death, mad speed with sprint scroll and dragon lvl 3 and above all else you have unlimited venges that only cost 300k

Lets be serious here warlock number one line of defense is keeping the dps that can kill you disabled. Aside from break ability which you reserve for priests you got slows, stuns, stat drains, lvl drop, prevent pet you need to blow your load of disables then die and venge back in.

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Your reply is very "kid without a candy" like... - we don't need shield because we have upgrades - :)))
No more comments from my side...

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LMFFFAO!
You have some serious balls to tell the old man how to rohan. Here is a though if you dont mind play your warlock full vit and know how to time your CC skills and shields. When you have mastered that pls do come and tell us how it went :)

Btw dps locks dont work with how much dps is in the game go full vit for better results ;D

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I can understand that when the arguments are missing, the balls appear... I would suggest to have a decent and polite debate on the subject, otherwise I can also write about your mother hairy mouth, but than the discussion will go too low... so let's remain in the polite zone.
Your suggestion on vit warlock is very interesting, considering the warlock having many skills related to vit :)))
I also suggest you to try psy guardian and int dhan, they are very good...
So you are those playing Rohan these days?! lol

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I can understand that when the arguments are missing, the balls appear... I would suggest to have a decent and polite debate on the subject, otherwise I can also write about your mother hairy mouth, but than the discussion will go too low... so let's remain in the polite zone.
Your suggestion on vit warlock is very interesting, considering the warlock having many skills related to vit :)))
I also suggest you to try psy guardian and int dhan, they are very good...
So you are those playing Rohan these days?! lol

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That dhan will actually do fairly well, tbh.

Anyway, if you as a sole warlock player, are set on keeping your lock as is without taking the advise of people who actually (know how to) play the class - be our guest. Just don't ask for silly skill changes, when you don't use the potential of the ones already ingame. There are many useless skills in the game, the ones of warlock aren't nearly it.

Please try to keep everything in one post only. Ohh and i see sunny not wasting time on you, you're the lost cause here anyways GL with your psy guard and int dhan then :)
Have a good day sir. ;D

Thx Peagle

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Your reply is very "kid without a candy" like... - we don't need shield because we have upgrades - :)))
No more comments from my side...

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Int warlock with no upgrades kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk lol delusional!


and trying to downplay vit warlock thats literally the build do you think ppl care that your pollution mind does even 6k ticks (which it doesnt) all we care about is that you do your fking job which is:

1: Break ability priests
2: Blow your crowd control load all over those guardians and dhans
3: Die
4: Venge back in and repeat

do you see anywhere in there an oh I use my lvl 7 energy sphere 4 second cooldown 4k magic damage nuke or I use grasping root then magic push like im in pve mode NO!

Those skills only exist to kill mobs dont get **** twisted now.





Also if your name is kadefag then dont even bother commenting.

I noticed some people are having hard time adapting to new changes. Hey! Aren't we the ones who asked for improvements? Anyhow these guys arguing about warlock int shield should leave the old ways and learn to play the new skill and strategy build for this class. Some people are just so stuck in the past, they can't even move forward.

the people having a hard time with the new changes are those that have no idea how to adapt to new playing strategies.

It takes time and effort to adapt - just like the time and effort you expended learning the original play strategies. This is exactly why the new changes are a good thing. It turns Rohan into something new.

Embrace the changes. Love the changes. Live the changes. Be the changes.

I didn't said that the changes in general are a bad thing. Actually I like the changes. My only question was how you farm with a 40 sec shield, nothing else.
And of course the low educated people from your side started writing about balls, kadefag (wtf is this?!) and so on...
What is funny is that one of you is saying that warlock is a DPS class, another one is saying that vit warlock is the best because you can play like a retard kid giving brake ability, die and than veng... ridiculous and idiotic playing style...
It is interesting that you have a group mentality, you 3 or 4 guys writing here. If some1 from outside have different opinion, all of you jump on him to say how wrong is he.
But each of you write thing in contradiction with the other one, but at the end you kiss each other... which is funny...

Y'know you are free to read/dismiss our opinions to your heart's content. You can also respond with alternate views all you want. Keep in mind that this is a discussion forum and any opinions expressed are subject to refute. If you have a viewpoint to present, then by all means do so. Just don't expect everyone to agree with you and present alternate viewpoints - which you can of course refute with your own view.

Welcome to forum pvp. Have you bought your upgrade yet?

On topic:

This game is designed to have a support (job)class and dps (job)class for each race. Take a step back and look at each race with a game architect's view and you will see that for yourself.

that game ded rek lmao only top kek playin here and nolifers

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This game is designed to have a support (job)class and dps (job)class for each race. Take a step back and look at each race with a game architect's view and you will see that for yourself.

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Thx old man you couldnt said it better.

Just to keep the doubt clear dps = pvp class, support = pve class.
Dont mind the forum warriors they are here to help and annoy you.
Any other doubts feel free to ask :)


Ohh well just to clear things up here is another comment >.<
The reason sunny and I say that Warlocks are full vit support is because no matter how good you are as a Warlock(Full Int DPS) there is no way you are gonna survive the amount of AoE DPS from Preds, Scouts, Zerkers, Guards, Defs, Temps, Savages in any battle field and not to leave the obvious point out Skill Defense(SD) and High DD fks up your DPS completely so the only way you as a Warlock will be able to be useful in any battlefield is as Full Vit(For survival reasons) CC(Yeah your arsenal that is way more annoying than wizards if you know how to) Support(Sadly but true). Doesn't matter how much magic atk you have you will always be over powered by the rest of the DPS classes because casting time and animation is a b!tch. I have mained Full Int Warlocks in the past but in pservers they are reliable in all the ways but once you are soloing any DPS class the thing starts to get difficult if your skills are in cooldown. The only kills i can remember as DPS have been when one of my guild mates got Net Binded by a priest and I had to finish the kill, some random Scouts, Dhans, Rangers and a couple of resurrected Templar kills other than that I have to say I was more of a Support CC Kill finisher roll in my guilds.

Sorry for the long post >.<

What long post?

Almost long post then?
xD

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Thx old man you couldnt said it better.

Just to keep the doubt clear dps = pvp class, support = pve class.
Dont mind the forum warriors they are here to help and annoy you.
Any other doubts feel free to ask :)


Ohh well just to clear things up here is another comment >.<
The reason sunny and I say that Warlocks are full vit support is because no matter how good you are as a Warlock(Full Int DPS) there is no way you are gonna survive the amount of AoE DPS from Preds, Scouts, Zerkers, Guards, Defs, Temps, Savages in any battle field and not to leave the obvious point out Skill Defense(SD) and High DD fks up your DPS completely so the only way you as a Warlock will be able to be useful in any battlefield is as Full Vit(For survival reasons) CC(Yeah your arsenal that is way more annoying than wizards if you know how to) Support(Sadly but true). Doesn't matter how much magic atk you have you will always be over powered by the rest of the DPS classes because casting time and animation is a b!tch. I have mained Full Int Warlocks in the past but in pservers they are reliable in all the ways but once you are soloing any DPS class the thing starts to get difficult if your skills are in cooldown. The only kills i can remember as DPS have been when one of my guild mates got Net Binded by a priest and I had to finish the kill, some random Scouts, Dhans, Rangers and a couple of resurrected Templar kills other than that I have to say I was more of a Support CC Kill finisher roll in my guilds.

Sorry for the long post >.<

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Pfft! That ain't long. You want long? Get Unka Dekon in here to post one of his infamous Walls. But atm he is a lil miffed about the GMs telling him not to expect upgrades being sold again in the foreseeable future.

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I didn't said that the changes in general are a bad thing. Actually I like the changes. My only question was how you farm with a 40 sec shield, nothing else.
And of course the low educated people from your side started writing about balls, kadefag (wtf is this?!) and so on...
What is funny is that one of you is saying that warlock is a DPS class, another one is saying that vit warlock is the best because you can play like a retard kid giving brake ability, die and than veng... ridiculous and idiotic playing style...
It is interesting that you have a group mentality, you 3 or 4 guys writing here. If some1 from outside have different opinion, all of you jump on him to say how wrong is he.
But each of you write thing in contradiction with the other one, but at the end you kiss each other... which is funny...

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Its clear you havnt been playing this game for a long time.

Its funny how you call vit warlock playstyle idiotic playing style. Its called winning wana experience that some day? Nothing idiotic about doing what has to be done to win and thats what warlocks entire purpose is.


Dont hear the answers you wana hear? then go play a dps int warlock and see how it works out for you.



Also its easy to farm with 40 second shield for one new mobs require skill defense and abs, everywhere else armor def crit drop master race carry.

It may be that I didn't played for a long time. But I am sure that you play more on forum than the client.
However what is fascinating is that there are the same you, 3 or 4 guys writting all the time on the forum... interesting...
and all of you saying the same things... giving a flat and non-diverse range of opinions on the forum...
Imaginating a SF scene, I have the feeling that in fact there is only 1 guy writting and 4 USB cables get out from his pc and enter in your 4 heads.
It is impressive how lack of diversity you can have, how much copies of the same pattern you are...
amazing how this game make you 4 to think the same...
just for your knowledge, this is the characteristics of an ideology.
All the fanatics are the same... So many Mr. Smith...

Ok sunny and sniper from now on ill be a diverse opinion. I will say completely the oposote of what you guys say even if i am completely wrong kkk good ^^

Go full int warlock youll wrek everyone out there and be a god. Make sure to use your skills on everyone and everything nothing will stop you :)

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It may be that I didn't played for a long time. But I am sure that you play more on forum than the client.
However what is fascinating is that there are the same you, 3 or 4 guys writting all the time on the forum... interesting...
and all of you saying the same things... giving a flat and non-diverse range of opinions on the forum...
Imaginating a SF scene, I have the feeling that in fact there is only 1 guy writting and 4 USB cables get out from his pc and enter in your 4 heads.
It is impressive how lack of diversity you can have, how much copies of the same pattern you are...
amazing how this game make you 4 to think the same...
just for your knowledge, this is the characteristics of an ideology.
All the fanatics are the same... So many Mr. Smith...

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I think full agi warlock is the best - considering new changes to skills and keeping incoming balance patches in mind - agi accessories will also have a great resale value in the future.
Having very high evasion, due to very high agility, will also improve your overall survivability in terms of PvE-ing. Mobs doing a lot of misses, will make your non-existent 60sec warlock shield no longer a necessity and as such, make this complaint futile.

Don't mind any of the above, they don't know how to play this anyway. At least I'm having my hunterkit play for me - so I know what I'm talking about.

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I think full agi warlock is the best - considering new changes to skills and keeping incoming balance patches in mind - agi accessories will also have a great resale value in the future.
Having very high evasion, due to very high agility, will also improve your overall survivability in terms of PvE-ing. Mobs doing a lot of misses, will make your non-existent 60sec warlock shield no longer a necessity and as such, make this complaint futile.

Don't mind any of the above, they don't know how to play this anyway. At least I'm having my hunterkit play for me - so I know what I'm talking about.

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Let's continue the discussion having a beer in Gent :)

Having a drink in koekelare atm hehe on a visit :P