Elemental Attack for Guardian

Which is best elemental attack for your guardian ?

Between Frozen or Darkness

Frozen : 100% boost in Frozen Elemental Attack, 50% boost in Defense. 8% chance of 30% drop in Mobility for 7 sec.
- When you combo.. you don't need enemy run of of your combo's range, So Frozen is help with some chance to drop mobility on your enemy.

Darkness : Boosts Darkness Elemental Attack Rate by 100%, Defense by 50%. 8% chance of 30% drop in attack speed for 7 secs.
- When you vs player.. you attacking enemy and your enemy also attacking you too in same time, So Darkness is help with some chance to drop attack speed on your enemy.

What you gonna choose?

Frozen every time but why are we talking about this when everyone has max elemental resist XD

Um Frozen is better than Darkness but with as sunny said with the amount of elemental resistance in game because of high Int and Psy from accs there is no need for it maybe for under geared player :l

It's always nice if you explain to people why one is better over the other - y'know.


But I won't.

Darkness is better, frozen is useless, because you hit people mainly when they are under stun, and when they are not you will get stunned back, so having opponent giving you less dmg is better in my opinion. Besides there are always pvp's when you duke things out, so its not running around contest.

Meh Darkness 30% atk spd drop doesnt do much when everyone has insane amounts of atk spd almost 24/7. Frozen will slow your targets up for some seconds and that will keep them away(HalfElfs) or from running. Remember it all depends on your playing style :)

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Originally Posted by Demonic6000

Darkness is better, frozen is useless, because you hit people mainly when they are under stun, and when they are not you will get stunned back, so having opponent giving you less dmg is better in my opinion. Besides there are always pvp's when you duke things out, so its not running around contest.

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By that logic you dont need to slow ppl's aspd when they are stuned either making the best element the bot element (blazing) hue

Max elemental resistance just help protect you with elemental attack only (you got 0 damage from elemental attack)
But max elemental resistance is not help about effect drop mobility and drop attack speed

Even you has max elemental resistance, you still can get effect from drop mobility and drop attack speed.

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Originally Posted by NoobDealer

Max elemental resistance just help protect you with elemental attack only (you got 0 damage from elemental attack)
But max elemental resistance is not help about effect drop mobility and drop attack speed

Even you has max elemental resistance, you still can get effect from drop mobility and drop attack speed.

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Thats not how it works you fool. Show us the sauce of when you have done 0 elemental damage but have gotten the effects off.

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

Thats not how it works you fool. Show us the sauce of when you have done 0 elemental damage but have gotten the effects off.

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by that logic you are asking him of the same info you are implying. He said 100% resistances doesn't make you immune to its effects.
And i said in my opinion ... so even if you get stunned that 5 sec atspd drop may be helpful while you are under stun and he starts kicking your butt. Everyone knows that running away from a guardian or defender while he is executing his combo on you is useless, because you will get hit more times in stead if you would use stun, so fuk frozen for 99 times of the pvps.

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Originally Posted by Demonic6000

by that logic you are asking him of the same info you are implying. He said 100% resistances doesn't make you immune to its effects.
And i said in my opinion ... so even if you get stunned that 5 sec atspd drop may be helpful while you are under stun and he starts kicking your butt. Everyone knows that running away from a guardian or defender while he is executing his combo on you is useless, because you will get hit more times in stead if you would use stun, so fuk frozen for 99 times of the pvps.

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come on how much of a fool do you have to be to hate on frozen element.


The problem is you are putting yourself in the shoes of a main DPS and a guard at the same time (this doesnt work) guardian is a dps support you are not the one who follows the main targets you are the one who picks off the target next in line.

Scenario:
Your temps are focusing priest #1 and your DPS reflect ends in 5 seconds

Options: Kill priest #1 or Peel priest #2

You would pick an imaginary option #3 which is to attack one of their temps when the only logical answer is to peel priest #2.

And why can't you follow the main targets? Have you been playing human race lately? they rape templars like paper

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Originally Posted by Demonic6000

And why can't you follow the main targets? Have you been playing human race lately? they rape templars like paper

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Only ****ty ppl die to guardians by themselves.

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

Only ****ty ppl die to guardians by themselves.

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Have u played Rohan after patch? Currently guardians rape/win over temps, many people use the race change. Temps are like useless now, in fact I had seen knightDreams wondering around maps like a headless horseman.

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

Only ****ty ppl die to guardians by themselves.

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Guardians are front liners now it seems, raping everything in-front and around them :l
You should consider checking current mass pvp now there are more happy faces playing now :)

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

Only ****ty ppl die to guardians by themselves.

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Lol Tina, 1 of our main guards alone raped 3 of e2n main temps in a matter of seconds. It was one of those "wtf" just happened moments that kind shocked us all lol

And people like me (yes, Im one of those *****ty* players) get raped by good geared guards now. They are pretty dam op atm.

I will be sure to login and see but they should be way easier to deal with in a real pvp scenario. (If those exist anymore)

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Originally Posted by xXxAurorAxXx

Lol Tina, 1 of our main guards alone raped 3 of e2n main temps in a matter of seconds. It was one of those "wtf" just happened moments that kind shocked us all lol

And people like me (yes, Im one of those *****ty* players) get raped by good geared guards now. They are pretty dam op atm.

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hummm, now I understand why I saw KnightDreams wondering aorund maps like the headless horseman hahaaahaahha

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

I will be sure to login and see but they should be way easier to deal with in a real pvp scenario. (If those exist anymore)

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Guards are indeed main DPS since the patch but you have a point. Guard is MORE than just DPS, this is the reason I started one after debuffs got nerfed. They have a great skillset for peeling and DPS making them fun to play and usefull in many situations.

Debuff used to destroy almost every class, now you can play without worrying too much about it except Giants Pillage which will be nerfed to 30mints cooldown :P

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

Only ****ty ppl die to guardians by themselves.

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Hey, you fool
90-95% of ppl in game they got gears better than you
you calling ppl die to guardians "****ty"
and if they die to guardians how about your ****ty char with ****ty gears?

PS. At the moment Frozen is 2 votes, and Darkness is 1 vote

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Cataclysm only removes Reflect/Magic Mirror/Madness/Shadow/(special buffs) read the description. It wont affect Humans nor other HalfElf skills.

k talk to me ppl you are telling me at a serious pvp like ruler main dps is 3 guards 1 def and 2 priest? no fking way.

Can guards kill temps? sure but there are many ways to react to that considering guards are not temps.


Avenger peels guard> pouches when blessing is up or even better sealing with storm assault.

Warlock break ability and now what guard? also since no1 has detox on them anymore broken treasureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee frozen ice etc.

Anyone with a paralyze aka other guards defenders avengers dont give a **** about blessing?

Roha shelter from defender right before that knight symbol sweet spot?


and if all of this isnt enough a temp can also just hit him back?


If this isnt the case some1 explain to me how 3 templars with lvl 7 equality and glitched group euphoria ever not have enough time to react to a guard solo peeling.

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

k talk to me ppl you are telling me at a serious pvp like ruler main dps is 3 guards 1 def and 2 priest? no fking way.

Can guards kill temps? sure but there are many ways to react to that considering guards are not temps.


Avenger peels guard> pouches when blessing is up or even better sealing with storm assault.

Warlock break ability and now what guard? also since no1 has detox on them anymore broken treasureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee frozen ice etc.

Anyone with a paralyze aka other guards defenders avengers dont give a **** about blessing?

Roha shelter from defender right before that knight symbol sweet spot?


and if all of this isnt enough a temp can also just hit him back?


If this isnt the case some1 explain to me how 3 templars with lvl 7 equality and glitched group euphoria ever not have enough time to react to a guard solo peeling.

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easy, I extend u an invitation to log, if im telling u I saw temps wondering around maps like a extremely bored,is because something happened.

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

k talk to me ppl you are telling me at a serious pvp like ruler main dps is 3 guards 1 def and 2 priest? no fking way.

Can guards kill temps? sure but there are many ways to react to that considering guards are not temps.


Avenger peels guard> pouches when blessing is up or even better sealing with storm assault.

Warlock break ability and now what guard? also since no1 has detox on them anymore broken treasureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee frozen ice etc.

Anyone with a paralyze aka other guards defenders avengers dont give a **** about blessing?

Roha shelter from defender right before that knight symbol sweet spot?


and if all of this isnt enough a temp can also just hit him back?


If this isnt the case some1 explain to me how 3 templars with lvl 7 equality and glitched group euphoria ever not have enough time to react to a guard solo peeling.

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Um consider entering PA and checking it out not everyone strategies as hard as you so prob that is whats going on :l
You didn't take into consideration Stone Skin if that is even useful this days
But hey I'm just a crappy Scout that dies to 1 Air Burst :P

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Originally Posted by RBNXD

Um consider entering PA and checking it out not everyone strategies as hard as you so prob that is whats going on :l
You didn't take into consideration Stone Skin if that is even useful this days
But hey I'm just a crappy Scout that dies to 1 Air Burst :P

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I only talk about serious pvp I know places like SA PA bind wars etc anything can happen already :P

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Originally Posted by RBNXD

Cataclysm only removes Reflect/Magic Mirror/Madness/Shadow/(special buffs) read the description. It wont affect Humans nor other HalfElf skills.

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I don't think he can read he always asks stupid questions...

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Originally Posted by snipers334

I don't think he can read he always asks stupid questions...

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Lol!!!
Btw I went to KRohan and the details says that Erase, Dispel Magic, Area Spell and Cataclysm removes all (OP) skills that means all stun/root resistances/removers, Madness, Shadow, Magic Barrier, Mana Guard, Magic Guard, Magic Reflection, Magic Mirror, Reflect, Stone Skin, Rohas Blessing, Mana Shield, Group Critical Immunity, Rumirs pt Disorienting Resistance, Stun/Root Resistance/Release Buff and Noirs Reflect and damage immune etc etc etc.
...well sh1t! At least you keep your buffs but damn.

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Originally Posted by RBNXD

Lol!!!
Btw I went to KRohan and the details says that Erase, Dispel Magic, Area Spell and Cataclysm removes all (OP) skills that means all stun/root resistances/removers, Madness, Shadow, Magic Barrier, Mana Guard, Magic Guard, Magic Reflection, Magic Mirror, Reflect, Stone Skin, Rohas Blessing, Mana Shield, Group Critical Immunity, Rumirs pt Disorienting Resistance, Stun/Root Resistance/Release Buff and Noirs Reflect and damage immune etc etc etc.
...well sh1t! At least you keep your buffs but damn.

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doubt it will work for all of those buffs just coz......rohan. For real tho it would still not help scout coz even when people don't use any of those buffs coz they get debuffed scout is still a very easy kill lol abd honestly playing a 115+50 scout just as debuff support for those skills.......

Well I'm worried as we speak because looks like in Korea the HalfElf DarkElf patch has been finished and there is no defense skill fix/addition for Ranger nor Scout just insane damage boost which prob we will see in the Dhan and Dekan patch too.
Hopefully I'm wrong qq
But yeh a second liner with no defense is as good as dead specially if the Guild/Party mates don't care about him. Sad story for Scouts :(

Btw I got my Vit Twins, finally I'm not a 1 shot in PA just a 2 shot qq