Why now we get x1 Alm scroll From Last Man standing event

ok this post is to Gms why we getting now x1 scroll of ALm from LMS Event whats the point of this . the only good thing about goin lms was this stack of x25 scrolls dat we love to use while we lvl up or while we PVP now u guys gave us x1 of this -.-! seriously!!! we have expensive prices no melee scrolls /magic scrolls in the Item mall anymore and now you take from us the x25 stack of ALM Scroll. I just have to say this is Lame and Anoying for all the rohan comunity...................

they prolly ****ed up the number when putting it to our accounts relax, they'll fix it send a ticket.

@Shawnc1186 no i've already ask the GM's why they rewarded 1pc AM scrolls, 1pc Physical Blow Scroll and they made it clear that it is 1pc not 1stack. No wonder they made Last Man Standing event as daily event

Oh so is no more x25 reward? :/

Nah they are doing you a favor by running the event /s

Noone replied my question

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Originally Posted by lordzymeth27

@Shawnc1186 no i've already ask the GM's why they rewarded 1pc AM scrolls, 1pc Physical Blow Scroll and they made it clear that it is 1pc not 1stack. No wonder they made Last Man Standing event as daily event

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oh well, they're slowly driving out the last people who play this game with this greedy bullshi.t. so who cares anymore

I dont know why but I think we are the ones who are getting greedy having so much alm scroll and not telling them that they are providing too much items. People, we need to adapt as well and be grateful to what we already had from the times that they are giving us so much things to us in-game just for joining an event.

I bet new GM was giving rewards thats why 1scroll only.

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Originally Posted by shawnc1186ishere

oh well, they're slowly driving out the last people who play this game with this greedy bullshi.t. so who cares anymore

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Salty Saltin much? xD We were giving out 1x of prizes for a while, you know that. We then began giving out the 25x as an experiment, but the experiment is now over. I'm doing a restoration for a guy with 25!!!!!!! stacks of these items. That isn't right. People are just hoarding them and not actually using them. I am wanting to give out items to players who are actually going to use them and enjoy them. Hence the introduction of the IP system, but hey, we're just being super greedy right? xD Anyways, I am exploring the options we have on prizes. If it were up to me, I would be giving out WAY more exciting prizes, the issue with that of course are the players who try to take advantage. If you want to blame anyone for as to why we are switching back to 1x, blame the people who participate in the event only to win the items, put them on an alt, and then save them for later, possibly never.

I am still playing around with the prizes and rewards available but I want you to think about it this way. Before my experiment, we were giving out 1x to 30 different players, so that's 30. We THEN switched from giving out 1x to 25x. So the number we were used to gifting our players basically went 25x what we used to do. So we went from giving away 30x of an item to 750x of an item! I was HOPING that it would promote more player interest in the events that we host, however the case ended up being players became more focused on the items than the actual event. That is not the result I am trying to cultivate. I want people to play the events because they are fun, with the prizes being kind of extra incentive to play well. You can expect shifts in the prize pool in the future, but for now general player behavior has shown us that we can't just be giving away items all willy-nilly.

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Originally Posted by Karazy1337

Salty Saltin much? xD We were giving out 1x of prizes for a while, you know that. We then began giving out the 25x as an experiment, but the experiment is now over. I'm doing a restoration for a guy with 25!!!!!!! stacks of these items. That isn't right. People are just hoarding them and not actually using them. I am wanting to give out items to players who are actually going to use them and enjoy them. Hence the introduction of the IP system, but hey, we're just being super greedy right? xD Anyways, I am exploring the options we have on prizes. If it were up to me, I would be giving out WAY more exciting prizes, the issue with that of course are the players who try to take advantage. If you want to blame anyone for as to why we are switching back to 1x, blame the people who participate in the event only to win the items, put them on an alt, and then save them for later, possibly never.

I am still playing around with the prizes and rewards available but I want you to think about it this way. Before my experiment, we were giving out 1x to 30 different players, so that's 30. We THEN switched from giving out 1x to 25x. So the number we were used to gifting our players basically went 25x what we used to do. So we went from giving away 30x of an item to 750x of an item! I was HOPING that it would promote more player interest in the events that we host, however the case ended up being players became more focused on the items than the actual event. That is not the result I am trying to cultivate. I want people to play the events because they are fun, with the prizes being kind of extra incentive to play well. You can expect shifts in the prize pool in the future, but for now general player behavior has shown us that we can't just be giving away items all willy-nilly.

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Karazy we talk a lot, and I can see your point of view obviously as a GM. I GM'd for retail Lineage 2 for many years. But as a player you would find little things like this ANNOY the small population that is left. That's all I'm saying. People are hoarding them because of the WAY YNK is and they KNOW YNK going to take it away at any moment. And what did they do? Take it away. I'm waiting for the Daily Rewards to be deactivated too. Which is another thing that is keeping a lot of players with minimal income playing the game the way Rohanopoly USED to do. Trust me I can promise you you will never understand the players point of view until you're an actual player. People enjoy the stacks of x25, it's fun to be able to use them in PVP without WORRYING when you're going to run out. Hell, with the new strong mobs in dungeon it even helps with pve too. Now that little bit of convenience is gone. My suggestion = put them back. But will any GM listen? No.

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Originally Posted by Karazy1337

Salty Saltin much? xD We were giving out 1x of prizes for a while, you know that. We then began giving out the 25x as an experiment, but the experiment is now over. I'm doing a restoration for a guy with 25!!!!!!! stacks of these items. That isn't right. People are just hoarding them and not actually using them. I am wanting to give out items to players who are actually going to use them and enjoy them. Hence the introduction of the IP system, but hey, we're just being super greedy right? xD Anyways, I am exploring the options we have on prizes. If it were up to me, I would be giving out WAY more exciting prizes, the issue with that of course are the players who try to take advantage. If you want to blame anyone for as to why we are switching back to 1x, blame the people who participate in the event only to win the items, put them on an alt, and then save them for later, possibly never.



I am still playing around with the prizes and rewards available but I want you to think about it this way. Before my experiment, we were giving out 1x to 30 different players, so that's 30. We THEN switched from giving out 1x to 25x. So the number we were used to gifting our players basically went 25x what we used to do. So we went from giving away 30x of an item to 750x of an item! I was HOPING that it would promote more player interest in the events that we host, however the case ended up being players became more focused on the items than the actual event. That is not the result I am trying to cultivate. I want people to play the events because they are fun, with the prizes being kind of extra incentive to play well. You can expect shifts in the prize pool in the future, but for now general player behavior has shown us that we can't just be giving away items all willy-nilly.

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w.e. only more people will leave, especially any new players that need the scrolls to get started on the servers. If anything this really hurts any potential new players the most and will be more likely to leave ROHAN altogether.

Karazy sorry but players don't join Your events cuz we don't have any chance to win most of them. So make events for All from lvl 1-165 witch same chances and not only for those with 4x upg and +18s everything.
I will never win in pvp / boss event so idc about x1 or x500 scrolls.
This is rohan true problem now, thats why not many from "fresh blood" want to stay longer in game. Gap between free and pay2win is 2big.

@GadFlly1
sry but those fresh players don't have a chance to win those scrolls anyway, new players quit cuz they have no chances vs pay2win ones thats all, scrolled or not still 0chances.

U know that this game is pay2win so dont complain much more about that. Quit game. YNK will release more upg-weapons, armors,rings.... to get $ from you. However, the service and the purposes are different : they dont listen to players, they care less than before they did. That is why ppl dont want to play this game. END of game.

Regards GM Karazy

Maybe you should come join LMS event, After you join once you will understand everything
Come join once and don't let anyone know that is you
And use your GM power make your secret character (for come join and test on LMS event) max out of everything
Make your character to 115+50
Make your weapon to 73-74 (max dd)
Make all your accessory to +18
Put Medal+7, Put Magical INT/STR+7 (depend what class you will play)
Put all talisman to your character too (Improve General Talisman, Gold Trophy, Token)
Use costume + scroll

So now you MAX of everything and ready for LMS event, Join and see by yourself if you have chance to win or not ?

I can tell you, you still have no chance to win event

The winner and winner prize is LOCKED by big guild only
If you not believe me try open history of LMS winner (3 years ago until now)
Winner and winner prize stay in big guild only

People in big guild used raidcall / skype / ventrilo for calling target (they are teamwork), They wipe out everyone until only guildies left and share winner and winner prize to guildies

That why sometime you see vit priest, vit defender won the event

Other people not in big guild have no chance to win event, What they can do is just join LMS event for participant prize

They are just collect ALM scroll for use later (not they fault), People can't play 24/7 because of work, school, university, sleep, etc.

Participant prize is helpful on warehouse dungeon, mirror dungeon, element dungeon stage10+, ash keena dungeon, power arena, survival arena, grind, farm, pvp

Come join LMS event just once please and you will understand everything

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Originally Posted by NoobDealer

Participant prize is helpful on warehouse dungeon, mirror dungeon, element dungeon stage10+, ash keena dungeon, power arena, survival arena, grind, farm, pvp

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This.

I know of many players that dont spend alot of cash in game that do go to LMS just to get the scrolls so they can use in warehouse/ Mirrors so they can have a better chance of surviving the pve. These places are alrdy tough enough on the average player. Take away what little help they do get and what chance do they stand? Once their stock pile of scrolls has ran out, what will they do then? These scrolls help out alot more than some would think.

Its not about "greed" for every player. Some people do rely on these items to help them get by.

But well, the change has been made. Just gotta suck it up now ><

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Originally Posted by Karazy1337

Salty Saltin much? xD We were giving out 1x of prizes for a while, you know that. We then began giving out the 25x as an experiment, but the experiment is now over. I'm doing a restoration for a guy with 25!!!!!!! stacks of these items. That isn't right. People are just hoarding them and not actually using them. I am wanting to give out items to players who are actually going to use them and enjoy them. Hence the introduction of the IP system, but hey, we're just being super greedy right? xD Anyways, I am exploring the options we have on prizes. If it were up to me, I would be giving out WAY more exciting prizes, the issue with that of course are the players who try to take advantage. If you want to blame anyone for as to why we are switching back to 1x, blame the people who participate in the event only to win the items, put them on an alt, and then save them for later, possibly never.

I am still playing around with the prizes and rewards available but I want you to think about it this way. Before my experiment, we were giving out 1x to 30 different players, so that's 30. We THEN switched from giving out 1x to 25x. So the number we were used to gifting our players basically went 25x what we used to do. So we went from giving away 30x of an item to 750x of an item! I was HOPING that it would promote more player interest in the events that we host, however the case ended up being players became more focused on the items than the actual event. That is not the result I am trying to cultivate. I want people to play the events because they are fun, with the prizes being kind of extra incentive to play well. You can expect shifts in the prize pool in the future, but for now general player behavior has shown us that we can't just be giving away items all willy-nilly.

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But most of them are playing that even for the reward not the fun as you said.
At this point i can only say that it were a good decision changing this.

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Originally Posted by NoobDealer

Regards GM Karazy

Maybe you should come join LMS event, After you join once you will understand everything
Come join once and don't let anyone know that is you
And use your GM power make your secret character (for come join and test on LMS event) max out of everything
Make your character to 115+50
Make your weapon to 73-74 (max dd)
Make all your accessory to +18
Put Medal+7, Put Magical INT/STR+7 (depend what class you will play)
Put all talisman to your character too (Improve General Talisman, Gold Trophy, Token)
Use costume + scroll

So now you MAX of everything and ready for LMS event, Join and see by yourself if you have chance to win or not ?

I can tell you, you still have no chance to win event

The winner and winner prize is LOCKED by big guild only
If you not believe me try open history of LMS winner (3 years ago until now)
Winner and winner prize stay in big guild only

People in big guild used raidcall / skype / ventrilo for calling target (they are teamwork), They wipe out everyone until only guildies left and share winner and winner prize to guildies

That why sometime you see vit priest, vit defender won the event

Other people not in big guild have no chance to win event, What they can do is just join LMS event for participant prize

They are just collect ALM scroll for use later (not they fault), People can't play 24/7 because of work, school, university, sleep, etc.

Participant prize is helpful on warehouse dungeon, mirror dungeon, element dungeon stage10+, ash keena dungeon, power arena, survival arena, grind, farm, pvp

Come join LMS event just once please and you will understand everything

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100% TRUE.
@GM Karazy try playing LMS event's you will see that the event is locked and winners are already "DECIDED", its a cooked EVENT made for big GUILDs. You want us to enjoy the PVP and LMS style? How bout making the LMS Event like a "SURVIVAL ARENA" wherein

1. Players dont see each others name so they won't know who they are helping or hitting each other.
2. Guild chat is off so no one would be able to communicate who they are hitting.

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Originally Posted by Karazy1337

Salty Saltin much? xD We were giving out 1x of prizes for a while, you know that. We then began giving out the 25x as an experiment, but the experiment is now over. I'm doing a restoration for a guy with 25!!!!!!! stacks of these items. That isn't right. People are just hoarding them and not actually using them. I am wanting to give out items to players who are actually going to use them and enjoy them. Hence the introduction of the IP system, but hey, we're just being super greedy right? xD Anyways, I am exploring the options we have on prizes. If it were up to me, I would be giving out WAY more exciting prizes, the issue with that of course are the players who try to take advantage. If you want to blame anyone for as to why we are switching back to 1x, blame the people who participate in the event only to win the items, put them on an alt, and then save them for later, possibly never.

I am still playing around with the prizes and rewards available but I want you to think about it this way. Before my experiment, we were giving out 1x to 30 different players, so that's 30. We THEN switched from giving out 1x to 25x. So the number we were used to gifting our players basically went 25x what we used to do. So we went from giving away 30x of an item to 750x of an item! I was HOPING that it would promote more player interest in the events that we host, however the case ended up being players became more focused on the items than the actual event. That is not the result I am trying to cultivate. I want people to play the events because they are fun, with the prizes being kind of extra incentive to play well. You can expect shifts in the prize pool in the future, but for now general player behavior has shown us that we can't just be giving away items all willy-nilly.

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Solution: character can join the event only once a week, it is not that hard to record the participants and later check if they were in event that week already.

He won't reply now guys we have too many players bringing up valid points.

u know what??? Im happy they give 1x scroll instead the 25, why? cuz players abuse!!! hows possible in less than 3 sec event period lms registration is ended? how???? corruption or players abusing using various alt to participate the same time? the 7 days a week same characters, the same!!!!!!!!, im glad, im glad they change the prize to 1x!!!!!! wish they change the scroll for 10%!!!!!

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Originally Posted by shawnc1186ishere

He won't reply now guys we have too many players bringing up valid points.

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That's not true! I am just busy. I have a lot of other things I do every day besides hang out on the forums. :P Sorry for the late reply, had to put a kid in time out. Anyways, as I said, this was an experiment, and it is now over. If you guys have opinions or constructive criticisms on what we could do to further develop this event into something we can ALL enjoy, I am all ears. :D

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Originally Posted by Karazy1337

That's not true! I am just busy. I have a lot of other things I do every day besides hang out on the forums. :P Sorry for the late reply, had to put a kid in time out. Anyways, as I said, this was an experiment, and it is now over. If you guys have opinions or constructive criticisms on what we could do to further develop this event into something we can ALL enjoy, I am all ears. :D

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There's about a full page of opinions.

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Originally Posted by Karazy1337

That's not true! I am just busy. I have a lot of other things I do every day besides hang out on the forums. :P Sorry for the late reply, had to put a kid in time out. Anyways, as I said, this was an experiment, and it is now over. If you guys have opinions or constructive criticisms on what we could do to further develop this event into something we can ALL enjoy, I am all ears. :D

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I think your inbox is full? ;p

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Originally Posted by Samtony

You've only been a GM for LESS than a year and yet you say that you guys once gave out x1 alm scrolls? Rofl. It's been years since LMS was introduced and the prices had always been x25 30% alm scrolls (yes 30%'s not 20%'s) so stop with your "experiment" bs.
How do you think that you know much more information about the game when these players that are left played this game for over 5 years? And you talk so much bullcrap and bunch of lies to try to prove yourself right. Bad bad gm should listen to players otherwise your salary will go down once these players that are left decides to quit.

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Calm down Ysa :o

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Originally Posted by Leon93

Calm down Ysa :o

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There's just no pleasing certain people huh? I have never once claimed to know more about this game than my players. In fact, the people that have actually attempted to communicate with me understand that I am always eager for input and information from people who have been playing this game significantly longer then I have. The people that seem to think I'm an awful guy are probably the people I permanently banned for scamming/hacking my other players. :P I certainly don't pretend to be anything that I am not. I am here to assist my player base by asking for their CONSTRUCTIVE input, and then taking the information presented to me either to memory or to management. You can spend all day insulting myself or my character, but seeing as a large percent of you have actually never had a conversation with me, it certainly doesn't affect me. I have heard some pretty funny rumors about me going on, but much like high school gossip, most of it is unwarranted and derogatory in nature.

I will continue to ask for your constructive input on these issues. I will continue to want to know what my players want, because at the end of the day, I WANT this game to be better. I want this to be the game that you guys have loved for years. Tell me how spewing angry vitriol improves ANYONE'S situation in this. Does it make you feel better? By all means, scapegoat me into being the reason your items break, that you lost the Power Arena ( Which for those of you who suggested me to watch it, I appreciate the suggestion, I learned quite a bit from watching the event unfold!), you can even blame me for why your girlfriend's mad at you or you lost your hair! Whatever I can do to assist you and improve your overall gaming experience, I am here for that. I am literally one click away from a forum message where you can vomit your frustrations on me. I reply back to people the earliest I can, and I am always honest and upfront to everyone. I don't have any issues with my community (Minus the ones I catch being naughty!), and I am here to listen. You will find this whole experience significantly more pleasant for all parties involved if you spent the time and energy being negative in being helpful instead. There are people who understand this, and they have been extremely wonderful and helpful to me, and I would like to take a second to thank you all again for your input and help.

Moving on, I just don't see the point or benefit of antagonizing each other. Anyone with a rational and logical thought process can understand this. Maybe I am foolish in thinking that trying to engage and communicate with you guys is a great idea. I understand the importance of the knowledge many of the players in this community have, and I consider it an extremely valuable resource; a resource that if used properly, would be literally game changing. The responsibilities of my position entail me to duties above and beyond the scope of the game, if I could, I would love to play with you guys all day, but that is not the reality of it. I squeeze in some time at Limestone periodically, but not much lately. The truly valuable knowledge will come from the people who CAN play this game for hours a day, who catch the things I can't through sheer experience. Those that choose to do so help improve this game bit by bit, and anybody whose been playing this game for an extended period of time can see and know about the good AND bad changes that have happened to this game throughout it's life cycle. I would rather work with your help, than without it. I AM asking for your advice and input, because I WANT to know.

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Originally Posted by Karazy1337

There's just no pleasing certain people huh? I have never once claimed to know more about this game than my players. In fact, the people that have actually attempted to communicate with me understand that I am always eager for input and information from people who have been playing this game significantly longer then I have. The people that seem to think I'm an awful guy are probably the people I permanently banned for scamming/hacking my other players. :P I certainly don't pretend to be anything that I am not. I am here to assist my player base by asking for their CONSTRUCTIVE input, and then taking the information presented to me either to memory or to management. You can spend all day insulting myself or my character, but seeing as a large percent of you have actually never had a conversation with me, it certainly doesn't affect me. I have heard some pretty funny rumors about me going on, but much like high school gossip, most of it is unwarranted and derogatory in nature.

I will continue to ask for your constructive input on these issues. I will continue to want to know what my players want, because at the end of the day, I WANT this game to be better. I want this to be the game that you guys have loved for years. Tell me how spewing angry vitriol improves ANYONE'S situation in this. Does it make you feel better? By all means, scapegoat me into being the reason your items break, that you lost the Power Arena ( Which for those of you who suggested me to watch it, I appreciate the suggestion, I learned quite a bit from watching the event unfold!), you can even blame me for why your girlfriend's mad at you or you lost your hair! Whatever I can do to assist you and improve your overall gaming experience, I am here for that. I am literally one click away from a forum message where you can vomit your frustrations on me. I reply back to people the earliest I can, and I am always honest and upfront to everyone. I don't have any issues with my community (Minus the ones I catch being naughty!), and I am here to listen. You will find this whole experience significantly more pleasant for all parties involved if you spent the time and energy being negative in being helpful instead. There are people who understand this, and they have been extremely wonderful and helpful to me, and I would like to take a second to thank you all again for your input and help.

Moving on, I just don't see the point or benefit of antagonizing each other. Anyone with a rational and logical thought process can understand this. Maybe I am foolish in thinking that trying to engage and communicate with you guys is a great idea. I understand the importance of the knowledge many of the players in this community have, and I consider it an extremely valuable resource; a resource that if used properly, would be literally game changing. The responsibilities of my position entail me to duties above and beyond the scope of the game, if I could, I would love to play with you guys all day, but that is not the reality of it. I squeeze in some time at Limestone periodically, but not much lately. The truly valuable knowledge will come from the people who CAN play this game for hours a day, who catch the things I can't through sheer experience. Those that choose to do so help improve this game bit by bit, and anybody whose been playing this game for an extended period of time can see and know about the good AND bad changes that have happened to this game throughout it's life cycle. I would rather work with your help, than without it. I AM asking for your advice and input, because I WANT to know.

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Didn't spend my time reading your essay because that's not the answer I'm looking for. Anyways can you prove me wherever you got your information saying that you guys once gave out x1 alm scrolls?
I don't hate you neither do I brag about the scrolls but remember you guys have players who cannot survive PVE's and probably plays longer than 5hrs and hence why x1 Alm scroll is not enough for them.

You must not be paying attention in game either, you should be able to see people who are always on 20% alm scroll everyday. So does that prove me that you aren't even active in game? :)

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Originally Posted by SummonerMan

How convenient you delete posts again and once again you are trying to play the victim because you never heard the term "The customer is always right".

If you remove this post you are saying that YOU ARE doing a ****ty job and YOU DONT want to improve.

I told you directly that YOU ARE doing a ****ty job and how to improve it (thats kind of what constructive criticism means) what did you do? ban my account.

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I put you on time out. I then sent you a lengthy message on this account, which I purposely left unbanned, so that we could communicate. I see that you are not interested in that. We will see you at the end of your temporary suspension. :)

LOL @ ysa summonerman wth gtfo ? kiiiiid

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Originally Posted by Samtony

Didn't spend my time reading your essay because that's not the answer I'm looking for. Anyways can you prove me wherever you got your information saying that you guys once gave out x1 alm scrolls?
I don't hate you neither do I brag about the scrolls but remember you guys have players who cannot survive PVE's and probably plays longer than 5hrs and hence why x1 Alm scroll is not enough for them.

You must not be paying attention in game either, you should be able to see people who are always on 20% alm scroll everyday. So does that prove me that you aren't even active in game? :)

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Samtony hmmmmm sexy pic you got in fourm ;)

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Originally Posted by Karazy1337

I put you on time out. I then sent you a lengthy message on this account, which I purposely left unbanned, so that we could communicate. I see that you are not interested in that. We will see you at the end of your temporary suspension. :)

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if anyone needs a timeout its you. Having said that I use private browsing (I get no notifications) if u want to send that message you can and ill check tmr.

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Originally Posted by keosocola

LOL @ ysa summonerman wth gtfo ? kiiiiid

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