The very old upgrades requires a boost.

Hello,
since a lot of people are disgusted with the new upgrades (which I of course understand you need to generate a profit for the company), but we haven't been asked anything about boosting the glacial upgrades, is there any change to get an old upgrade boosted as well? I feel being "scammed" by this company by paying so much by the first upgrade sale and having so low of stats nowdays.
For example the new zhen is 130% hp and 27x-28x of vit, while the old upgrade = 120% of hp and 120 of all stat... That's mean I am losing literally over 100 vit which is a lot of hp for me... You wanted constructive opinions/criticism then you have now with an example. Did you even discuss of making the new of upgrade stats? I paid like 8k rp per each part wchich gives 32k for whole upgrade while it is now for 5k (e-cash) which means 20k per upgrades and 3k of "free" e-cash, with this said having 3k saved it gives me for 4 parts 12k of free e-cash which means I can buy another 2 parts...
Greetings...

I agree with you about this issue. PWI should boost old upg/ epic because players paid a lot of $ on old upg epic.

Kraszer you payd for your old upgrade 3 years ago... you had alot of time to make another fresh cash for RBF so just buy new upgrade now. You see its cheaper :)

I would stretch it as far as the epics as well :D

What irks me the most, tho, is the fact that none of these are obtainable in game. IM should always be a means to get things faster / easier / earlier - not a means to be stronger than those who do not use IM.

Yeah and let's boost the 1st tier level 1x-2x weapons as well. I mean you can get a maximum of what, 20 melee on Dirk of Rev'Deca? Totally unfair, how am I supposed to PvP against 7x melee Glacials with my Dirk of Rev'Deca!?

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Originally Posted by u3podcku

Kraszer you payd for your old upgrade 3 years ago... you had alot of time to make another fresh cash for RBF so just buy new upgrade now. You see its cheaper :)

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Sir do you even play this game? I am having trouble by making rps nowdays, because as you can see the EM dropped drastically so bad, glacial weapons/armors, nothing sells, even if you can sell then you can obtain like 50kk for weapons and armors? So tell me, are you kidding me?

He is.

But anyway, by providing the actual weapons on IM - there is no purpose in farming. Therefore EM will not sell as it did in the past.
They are thinking revenue but in the long run, I sincerely doubt it earns them more than it would have with the old system.

That system being:

- To be competitive in pvP (and to be able to pvE), there would be a need for several sets of gears.
- These gears would need to be farmed and/or crafted

In order to make farming/crafting easier: they could've sold boosters

- Each one of these items would also need to be forged
In order to make forging less of a hassle, they could continue selling prevention stones
However, an increase of the rates would be necessary, so people do not feel ripped off

- Option stones would be needed for each of those items
They could continue selling them on the IM

To prevent items from dropping, they could sell sealed bags.


Items would be traded on the EM, taxes would be paid, new RPS injection would be required..

Crafting would need an extreme overhaul.


Get rid of the botsystem. Seriously, a game that needs to provide a farming bot is just plain ridicule.

Sell tons of cosmetics, people will actually pay to make their characters stand out.

- Allow for class diversity
- skill balance

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Originally Posted by Kraszer

Sir do you even play this game? I am having trouble by making rps nowdays, because as you can see the EM dropped drastically so bad, glacial weapons/armors, nothing sells, even if you can sell then you can obtain like 50kk for weapons and armors? So tell me, are you kidding me?

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Nah i dont just kidding you! I`m rude to you cos wanna open your eyes... E-cash 5000!!! Are you play this game? :) They need fresh $ and dont care about farmers... they dont care for people who spend real money you wanna someone give you back rps for your old upgrade.... Open your eyes man! Here NO HOPE!

PS: i play dekan too, belive me your old upgrade is better than new one... lol No mele and no dmg drop so templars will drop new upgr dekans, noirs will drop dekans verry easy... for pve you dont need all that power of 500 000 hp :) Boss monsters recovery soo fast... fast attack speed or you are nobody... so again templars and noir... New upgrade dekans will be only BIG Fun for pro geared Templars lol and TD spenders

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Originally Posted by bosshunt

Yeah and let's boost the 1st tier level 1x-2x weapons as well. I mean you can get a maximum of what, 20 melee on Dirk of Rev'Deca? Totally unfair, how am I supposed to PvP against 7x melee Glacials with my Dirk of Rev'Deca!?

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We had events 90% succsess rate in lvl down i made like 10 -> 50-68 att weapons to lvl 10 and sold them in Exchange market about 1500-5000 rps so we have this no need boost items... big problem is when you att 115 lvl with 30 lvl you will miss him evry time :) check the skills you have no chance vs 115 if you are lvl 100 ... :)

there no ned for boost old upgrade tat is y ur post say old upgrade cuz it old........it 2015 now ok it time get new upgrade :)

people with old upgrade zhen r greedy........now the upgrade come out hella yea.......tat is y dont be greedy LOL

Lol, why would they boost your old upgrade when you could just buy a new one?

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Originally Posted by Kraszer

Hello,
since a lot of people are disgusted with the new upgrades (which I of course understand you need to generate a profit for the company), but we haven't been asked anything about boosting the glacial upgrades, is there any change to get an old upgrade boosted as well? I feel being "scammed" by this company by paying so much by the first upgrade sale and having so low of stats nowdays.
For example the new zhen is 130% hp and 27x-28x of vit, while the old upgrade = 120% of hp and 120 of all stat... That's mean I am losing literally over 100 vit which is a lot of hp for me... You wanted constructive opinions/criticism then you have now with an example. Did you even discuss of making the new of upgrade stats? I paid like 8k rp per each part wchich gives 32k for whole upgrade while it is now for 5k (e-cash) which means 20k per upgrades and 3k of "free" e-cash, with this said having 3k saved it gives me for 4 parts 12k of free e-cash which means I can buy another 2 parts...
Greetings...

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Hooboy! youj are dreaming if this will ever happen.

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Originally Posted by u3podcku

Kraszer you payd for your old upgrade 3 years ago... you had alot of time to make another fresh cash for RBF so just buy new upgrade now. You see its cheaper :)

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I kindof have to agree here. The original upgrades were expensive, yes indeed they were! BUT you got 3 years worth of use (aka server ruling) out of them.

I will put an analogy out there:

In 1986 a Mustang 5.0 GT could be had for around $12,000 US. In today's dollars that is equivalent to $35,000 US. It was fast for the time and had about 210 horsepower and a had 4-speed transmission. Today you can get a Mustang 5.0 GT for $32,000. That 2015 mustang has a 6-speed transmission, fully independent suspension, DOHC engine and puts out more than DOUBLE the horsepower at 435 HP. As a 1986 Mustang GT owner do you think ford would give you compensation because the new mustangs are twice as powerful as your old crusty 1986 ponycar? For that matter if you buy a 2015 5.0 GT this year and Ford puts out a 500HP engine in the 2016 5.0 GT do you think Ford will do a thing about your car? Would you really expect them to?

Why should YNK/PWI treat upgrades any differently?

I do cry foul when they put out the same model/Tier upgrades as the previous sales with better stats and attributes folr the same price. To me that is the same as Ford selling 2015 Mustangs GTs early in the year with the 435 HP engine and after July of that same year selling the SAME MODEL mustang GTs with the 500HP engine at the same price. I would be visiting them with my lawyer and demanding a free trade-up! IK feel exactly the same way when I see PWI selling 2015 Glacial Upgrade weapons with one set of attributes, then selling the same 2015 Glacial Upgrades later on in that SAME YEAR with BETTER attributes for the SAME PRICE. I for one would feel PWI cheated me just as much as I would Feel Ford cheated me when if I bought my 2015 Mustang 5.0 GT earlier in the year and they made desirable changes to it later on on that same car.

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Originally Posted by Kraszer

Sir do you even play this game? I am having trouble by making rps nowdays, because as you can see the EM dropped drastically so bad, glacial weapons/armors, nothing sells, even if you can sell then you can obtain like 50kk for weapons and armors? So tell me, are you kidding me?

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EM prices are not directly PWI's fault, though I would point at the cost of things in ecash in IM as a primary driver of obscene EM prices. If players have to pay more in IM fort stuff using ecash, they will charge more to get the same virtual value. THAT part is PWI's fault.

The lack of stuff in EM is a byproduct of there being so few players left here. Less people to sell stuff = less stuff to buy. Let's face it - with all the upgrades out there, nobody left playing here is bothering to create godly ingame weapons. Godly is woefully inadequate in the face of upgrades. So players could not be bothered to forge and sell stuff anymore. The original epic sales killed the EM weapon market here.

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Originally Posted by Gank83

Lol, why would they boost your old upgrade when you could just buy a new one?

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in pwi's eyes: boosting old upgrades = no income and more work for pwi. forcing you to make new ones to stay competitive = less work and lots of income for pwi.
If you were pwi, which would you choose?

@bump,
would like to hear some gm about this...

I wouldn't expect any replies before Monday if they reply at all.

They're going to tell you **** off, if anything. You just want them to boost your **** so you don't have to buy more ****...has PW ever done anything to give people less incentive to spend money?

While they're doing that, they should boost blindfolds of sealing too, what about the DD and damage reflect armor? can't forget about the 100% perma mounts.

So no answer and prolly no boosts for us... Dissapointed customer...

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Originally Posted by Kraszer

So no answer and prolly no boosts for us... Dissapointed customer...

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Well if they said they will boost old upg i would not sell mine and didint buy new. And if they did boost i will be dissapointed customer. so it not going to happen. If they did boost they had announce it before new sales.

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Originally Posted by DuelistBlad3r

people with old upgrade zhen r greedy........now the upgrade come out hella yea.......tat is y dont be greedy LOL

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yes there 99k rps zhen become 20k :D