Should Ran and Jin merge?
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Should Ran and Jin merge?
Would it really make any difference? Ran/Jin merges. Jin players get butthurt and rq. Left with only Ran population anyway.
At least leaving things alone, the few jin players that are left will stick around at least a little while longer.
yeh it'd make a difference, i've played both servers. and jins in temp have almost the same hp as temps in ran, and jin temps hit harder. trust me, alot harder lol.
yeaaa merge the servers, isen is money, and jin is a lot of melodrama people, maybe with the merge there will be more balance between leveling and forging and players gonna play instead of pursuit new drama
Another dumb/useless thread, since epic/upg>>>>opaniel or tali with 38DD and 45 melee atk atones. Maybe they had a chance before atk stones removal but atm it doesn't make sense.
Hence those that own them (90% of the server) would qq and rq if they have to merge with Ran.Quote:
Originally Posted by shawnc1186ishere
Yea they hit "so hard" lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by shawnc1186ishere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3emYK3HpZU
Thats a temp with 4 rulers +12 and ferk +15
and that's a indo fag.got using duped items. i had a +12 templar i hit 35k's+++ easy
what 90% of server? e2n? and a few sick people campin bosses? jin is dead, same users using different charactersQuote:
Originally Posted by BananaBandit
http://www.memegenerator.es/imagenes...2/12690691.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by chupachupss
Well then, in that case, e2n is a majority that don't want a server merge. Can't the few sick people, much like yourself, just QQ less and gtfo to Ran already? No merge needed. We're the overwhelming majority after all. Sup.Quote:
Originally Posted by brujohechizero
what are you afraid of merge lol? i remeber e2n were nobody on ran, now in jin of 150 e2n guilders only conect 5 and im exagerating (the rest of guilders are same users with using diferent characters lol) and btw,,, they are the onlyone guild always investigating other peoples real life lolQuote:
Originally Posted by zyklo22
So zyklo is an e2n****... I see
On to the topic: Absolutely yes jin should merge with ran. For starters not all jin gear is obsolete on ran people could easily trade their rings for old epics/upgs but once they merge with jin they can make a sale with some upg parts (not all because we got shiny options now that prevent that from being possible). Ran pvp has always been better people got more health more dd live longer to actually make strategic choices compared to jin where things are significantly shorter. If things go my way people would have things to farm so true free players can stand a chance.
And my final reason is right now playwith has 3 different worlds with 3 different problems reducing that down to 2 or 1 would make it much easier to bring out content that is good for all.
btw when i said e2n was the 90% i was being sarcastis, you know what sarcasm is? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by zyklo22
And with both servers being boring ppl are using less and less IM merge the servers so ppl have to fight again and pop all their yolo IM inventories :P
boring people starting with the melodrama guilders in jin server, always with the same repertory , merge the servers to stop melodrama and start pvpQuote:
Originally Posted by ShadowAce
Merge the servers and bring out new lvls that'll get things cracking looooool
Merging the servers will bring lots of ppl back *looking at you godlyke* :PQuote:
Originally Posted by brujohechizero
Oh, your attempted sarcasm just fell flat on it's face then. E2N and ally = majority.Quote:
Originally Posted by brujohechizero
[QUOTE=ShadowAce;292682]So zyklo is an e2n****... I see
jajaj yes lol, and flatterer, saying his guild is majority lol ( 150 of guilders only conect 5 and i exagerate)
Oh look...its this stupid thread again.
E2N has been the majority on every server they have been on syrephis 485 guildies tempest 3xx guildies and on jin ppl saying 150?
185 to be exactly..... and like said before only 5 conect and im exagerating lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ShadowAce
100% he used indo items. That is why JIN server sux cause GM doesnt fix all these indo items. You know what. There are a lot of indo items on JIN. hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by chupachupss
58% dd dagger vs fail temp is 2 indo, ban them all pl0x.Quote:
Originally Posted by CowboyTPHCM
hahahahaha that templar never have ruler +12 his hp is only 84k with marea,alm scroll 30% and lion lvl 3 . is simple he dont have that items and he say only to make a fake video and try to block other player. and he say the hp of erza dont drop i see in the video one priest and one templar healing that guardian.Quote:
Originally Posted by CowboyTPHCM
and why i talk about his hp? i have in my templar 4 drop +12 only ferkan+6 and with that same scroll ,buff and pet i reach 92k hp
ohh look!!!! you and your guild what they want is to have the server for you all alone, thats why dont want the merge lol i got it........."houston we have a problem"Quote:
Originally Posted by Gadwin83
Well first off...what guild am I in? I'd be amazed if you can even answer that much lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by maincore
And besides for that...I dare all you Ran players to hop on to Jin and fight Jin players with Jin gear if your all so amazing at this game. You won't do it. Only reason a handful of Ran players are constantly whining about wanting a merge is to have some Jin players to dominate, but they're too stupid to realize if they ever did merge the stragglers on Jin aren't going to play anymore even if upgrades are resold. The entire reason Jin exists was to get away from epics/upgrades and actually be able to play a server where farming is part of the game(but they managed to pretty much ruin that now anyhow). You want a merge but its always come play with out epics/upgrades...how about they just erase all epics/upgrades and give everyone 50k rps per epic and 20krps per upgrade part. I'd be all for that merge...level the playing field...but all the Ran players would QQ so hard they'd have to play on a level playing field...again...the same reason they want to play with Jin players so bad via merge but won't go play on Jin.
The funny thing is most of these ppl are jin players that dont like e2n or are in e2n. Having said that why would we (ran ppl) let go of the only thing in this game that is balanced for pvp to do some jin get-hit-40%-hp-per-hit game? Anyways I give up on convincing you because the word compromise does not exist for you and never will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gadwin83
Your compromise...come play with epics/upgrades or gtfo. That isn't anymore of a compromise then what I've said...50k per epic 20k per upgrade part. Either one of those suggestions is my way or gtfo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowAce
The fact is, its a compromise right now...you want epics/upgrades go play Ran. You don't...go play Jin. What you want is to have it YOUR way. Nothing is stopping Jin players from hopping over to Ran...nothing is stopping Ran players from hopping over to Jin.
Having a 2 pt upgrade system (with stronger stats just in 2 parts) is the best of both worlds farming and cash shop it increases the value of 2/4 weapon parts as well as crystals crones and rings. But that apparently is too unreasonable for you. Balance and stuff to farm? no way
There you go again...COME PLAY WITH UPGRADES...great compromise lol. 90% of your weapons overall power is going to come from the item mall, not from farming...the two lame parts you'd have to farm would just be token parts anyhow. Its almost comical your too self centered to realize people who didn't like the original epics/upgrades wouldn't like "two part upgrades" for all the exact same reasons...all that matters to you is you'd have a few Jin scrubs massively undergeared by Ran standards to beat on for a while...and again...your too self centered to even realize you really wouldn't, because most Jin players that haven't already hopped over to Ran would just quit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowAce
Those people who didnt want upgrades probably didnt want to get 1 hit either and its way more fair than the deal on isen or on jin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gadwin83
Until you will open your eyes, Ran was always the best in spite of the inequality of the races.
The problem which originated Jin and many players tired of Ran was:
"We did not conduct the sale of upgrades and epic"
people got tired of waiting, everyone was very happy and excited with these new weapons, but as there was no way to get them through IM or were
too expensive in the EM, began imbalance, THE BALANCE IS BROKE, you can not have a game with unique weapons only for a few players, the other players do not matter?
They are very stupid or what they wanted was that rohan fail? CONGRATULATIONS, Rohan got it dying.
"WANT TO REVIVE ROHAN?"
* Allow once again the upgrades and epic SALE are the best weapons and will give balance to the game, but also allow the parties to acquire by Archeivement Event or exchange with badges.
* Allow the effort Player also has value in the game that does not focus on all the money.
* Allow the Armor Ran if both Tali in it for the money
* Allow putting sockets to weapons (could be both) either upgrades or epic
Ran is the best you only need a little dedication and time.
JIN and ISEN are the same, the same failure.
Rohan is so easy to fix, and convinced me that GM are those who will not help the game and gives me great sadness.
Until you will open your eyes...
You cant put all 4 upg parts on the EM now because of the new option stones. The old DD stones had a range of 27% (23% dd to 50% dd or 47-74% dd when u had 4 upg parts) the new DD stones are much closer (13% range) the minimum forge with shiny options and 4 upg parts would give u 69% dd (gaurenteed 69% dd what?) and the max DD would get you 82% dd.
Because of this problem I suggested making it 2 parts, the important stats (HP, all stats) get buffed up to 40% (for the dekans out there thats 11x-12x% hp), the DD stays the same IMO (6 % for each part or an extra 12% dd). The minimum DD with shinys is 57% (which is above average for an old 4 pt upgrade) and the maximum is 70%.
Upgrade parts for achievement points.... I dont like the idea at all. By making it 2 parts and requiring forging it is much better to just to have discounted sales from time to time on the ecash price.
Players can farm:
The 2 weapon parts
Grade A crystals for reinforcing
Rings for Ancienting
Crones for dlvling
The availability of these weapons will also increase the demand for other things like chars, ses for those chars, accessories, reinforcements for those accessories and armour for those chars. Will the value be 2008 crazy? nop but that also stems from the fact that some of these things are easy to get. I think you brought up a good point in that people might hate upgs but they hated upgs even more when they couldnt get one because it was discontinued.
Uh...this is why we need a skill balance patch. I know you like to kid yourself into thinking Ran is balanced, but its still ****ed up...pvp just goes a little longer because everyone has more hp/dd and the temp double dip hasn't been as big of an issue because most people just continued to use epics/upgrades instead of craft weapons when we had that stupid %attack stones...and even now, if someone has a melee/magic/dd glacial its not really worth using when your giving up all the other stats epics/upgrades offer just to go from OP damage to stupidly OP damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowAce
Jin would be 1000x more playable if they'd simply nerf blunt mastery and get rid of offensive scrolls since stat inflation has obviously skewed the balance between offense and defense way in favor of offense. But they aren't interested in actually improving gameplay...they just want to milk idiots for a little more money. Which again...is why its hilarious you think selling more pay to win weapons would improve the game. My idea of nerf blunt mastery/get rid of offensive scrolls...at least the gms might come across as putting forth a good faith effort to improve Jin and make things a little more affordable...your idea of selling more pay to win items..."hey guys spend another 100 or gtfo." Yeah...that's going to go over real well with an already disgruntled and diminishing playerbase lol.
The solution is so easy, but complicated:
Before the maximum was 69% DD and now with the new 82% DD serious stones.
Then do a mathematical operation 82-69 = 13,
divide 13 /4=3.25 rounding 3.0
solution:
We create new "parts UPGRADE" with 3% DD which would arrive at 70% DD
maximum
We update all the old "parts UPGRADE" who are loose to the new value 3% DD, or simply delete it.
The solution is so easy, but complicated:
Just can't stand that people might have a chance to roll a few more dd then you. Wouldn't want that 71% dd club to be more then 4 members...but keep talking about making things fair lol. All you want is server merge and if any Jin players are stupid enough to stay let them get something almost as good.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowAce
Your agenda is transparent, but I can assure you, even if you got your way it would lead to far more Jin players saying adios then embracing the second coming of what they've already fled from once.
If they were to have some sort of new upgrades...the solution would be to value the dd on each part so that a perfect dd roll using the best available dd stones would be equal to what a perfect dd roll would have been on the original upgrades using the best available stones at that time. ShadowAce couldn't handle that though...every new upgrade created with dd equal to or greater then 71 would tear her heart bit by bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by alucardtt
Yeah because the rng factor of forging it before should not happen here. The new DD range is too tight its only 13% and having a gaurenteed 57% dd is already above the average upg DD of 52%. Take your conspiracy theories elsewhere I want to give people as much of a chance as the next person it sickens me that you think I built my suggestion so my mace is 1% better than what any of the new weapons can get (LMAO).