Tbh dumb move

so isen server is now live and been for a few days and to be honest in my oppinion the dumbest dessicion made by ynk.

they could of made this server good and then it would been worth it but well you guys didnt. big suprise there ._.

However congratz to making people think this server is so amazing so that you guys killed the other two

how can you even think its good?

like first of all
drop rate=**** i have gotten like 3 things from mobs that aint crones on around 5 hours of farming :) lol
exp rate well not **** but alot worse then jin i cant wait for the super slow lvling at around 80-90 dont wanna know about 100+
forging isnt good either those rates are also bad. worse then ran< and worse then jin on fridays when we got event

and that that server is less "pay to win" is pure bull*** just think about it what made people overpowered in jin and ran? opaniels right? opaniels+18 with stones on them. those templars and so on are pure overpowered so on new server lets give those money spenders opaniel armors to! to make +18 and put stones into! making forged stuff even more worthless!! sure u can buy those armors for alot of crones but u still have to buy stones and abrants to + it for rp :) so enjoy your so much better server

sure wont have talismans but think about it...they made the talismans to balance the classes didnt they? on isens no balance, still.

just worse :D

i have to agree this server is not for me and its not good at all.. people just not realize its still but they will when they get fully geared and max lvl. There are no balance in this server because glacial weps are nerfed and chimera/talis/opaniel have still 35% ATTACK so that makes temps most OP class like always and they will 1 shoot any vit class as always because glacial weps are nerfed and crafted weps are not useable on vit class just simply cos there are no hp on it. Str/dex/psy/agi based chars will have low hp because no talismans and all that **** so they will be one shooted by temps again. str dhans will go in second place after templars as always so they can dpp and 1 shoot all. Vit dekans will be useless cos of skill defences. So in mine opinion most balances server so far is Ran because they have upgraded weps and templars ,dhans can not 1 shoot other classes just because they are able to have 7x dd. After trying Isen i am inactive again waiting Jin and Ran to merge hope they will realize they gona loose even more ppl if they do not merge servers.

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Originally Posted by steelblue

i have to agree this server is not for me and its not good at all.. people just not realize its still but they will when they get fully geared and max lvl. There are no balance in this server because glacial weps are nerfed and chimera/talis/opaniel have still 35% ATTACK so that makes temps most OP class like always and they will 1 shoot any vit class as always because glacial weps are nerfed and crafted weps are not useable on vit class just simply cos there are no hp on it. Str/dex/psy/agi based chars will have low hp because no talismans and all that **** so they will be one shooted by temps again. str dhans will go in second place after templars as always so they can dpp and 1 shoot all. Vit dekans will be useless cos of skill defences. So in mine opinion most balances server so far is Ran because they have upgraded weps and templars ,dhans can not 1 shoot other classes just because they are able to have 7x dd. After trying Isen i am inactive again waiting Jin and Ran to merge hope they will realize they gona loose even more ppl if they do not merge servers.

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yes however as soon as talismans are out i think jin will be equal with ran in balance then it will just be about taste, if u rather have big success with forging or rather lvl faster

isen on the other hand got none of those and are more pay to win :) have fun spending rps every 7th day to keep your opaniel wep and armor always stoned and have fun making them all + ;D

and well if u cant afford this have fun trying to forge sh**t from bought armors from merchant and then get buttfwaked by the "pros" aka paying players

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Originally Posted by lightsinthesky

Those forge / xp rates are the original rates, but I do feel drop rate has been lowered. To be honest, I think we should be paying more attention to the fact that Isen will have stat inflation problems again. No more OP costumes, but 95 all stat (reinforceable) 150 attack armor set, stat socket stones, and the unnecessary re-release of walter medals just tells me that the company strategy is still the same.

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yup sad but true but people dont seem to see it, yet the server so good they say :D

I can proudly say I saw this coming a mile away lol. They didn't nerf blunt mastery, and they were centering the server around craft gear...so what exactly did they fix lol.

Glacial cap...come on, it was announced beforehand. Is it really a surprise its set to right around the limit Korea wanted with the original option limit.

Stat deflation...to be fair I thought this was the one selling point of the server...but they messed this up too. It's Jin but extra stats on your armor replace costumes, and scrolls got tone down a bit...which they should have done on all servers a long time ago. Only thing missing is the 150 stat talismans and upgrade boss drops...but they put in boss set bonuses apparently lol.

Cheaper to compete as well...I thought this would be another selling point but not really. +12 your gear 3x to get the best stuff? Took me about 3 seconds to realize how expensive this server would be as well.

Only thing that interested me on this server was the toned down scrolls and weak scrolls available for crone. If they did 10 for crone and 20 for cash that would have been better, but they went a little overboard with 30s. Also the extra power arenas seems fun, they can be a lot of fun for random pvp...but most power arenas just get ruined by templars. Overall...I wouldn't have rerolled on this server if they gave me a free set of +12 gear when end game is going to be the same broken **** Jin is. I logged in for like a half hour just to check things out...and I just didn't see how this server would be any more balance or fairly priced then the others. Even if some old players come back or some new blood tries it out they're all gone soon as they realize how retarded +12'ing your gear is once, let alone 3x per piece. This server is done soon as school restarts...all the old people playing for nostalgic purposes will be over the initial new server rate race and all the people who thought this would somehow be better then Ran/Jin are going to be disillusioned soon as they see what geared temps gonna do on this server as well.

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Originally Posted by Gadwin83

I can proudly say I saw this coming a mile away lol. They didn't nerf blunt mastery, and they were centering the server around craft gear...so what exactly did they fix lol.

Glacial cap...come on, it was announced beforehand. Is it really a surprise its set to right around the limit Korea wanted with the original option limit.

Stat deflation...to be fair I thought this was the one selling point of the server...but they messed this up too. It's Jin but extra stats on your armor replace costumes, and scrolls got tone down a bit...which they should have done on all servers a long time ago. Only thing missing is the 150 stat talismans and upgrade boss drops...but they put in boss set bonuses apparently lol.

Cheaper to compete as well...I thought this would be another selling point but not really. +12 your gear 3x to get the best stuff? Took me about 3 seconds to realize how expensive this server would be as well.

Only thing that interested me on this server was the toned down scrolls and weak scrolls available for crone. If they did 10 for crone and 20 for cash that would have been better, but they went a little overboard with 30s. Also the extra power arenas seems fun, they can be a lot of fun for random pvp...but most power arenas just get ruined by templars. Overall...I wouldn't have rerolled on this server if they gave me a free set of +12 gear when end game is going to be the same broken **** Jin is. I logged in for like a half hour just to check things out...and I just didn't see how this server would be any more balance or fairly priced then the others. Even if some old players come back or some new blood tries it out they're all gone soon as they realize how retarded +12'ing your gear is once, let alone 3x per piece. This server is done soon as school restarts...all the old people playing for nostalgic purposes will be over the initial new server rate race and all the people who thought this would somehow be better then Ran/Jin are going to be disillusioned soon as they see what geared temps gonna do on this server as well.

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yup sadly but true

This new server is still being tweaked you can expect rates to be modified on the next maintenance aside from that it would be better if you guys suggested some ways to make things better like I did to the reinforcement problem.

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Originally Posted by ShadowAce

I think a server that revolves around crafting is going to need a new reinforcement system and I have devised one that should work well for rohan.


Right now if you fail a reinforcement it goes down by the stone value (+6 for VI for example) what if there was a new reinforcement method that preserved the lvl but could only go up by 1?

I dont wana give it any names but lets call it incremental reinforcement stone and incremental reinforcement abradent. You go up by 1 and if you fail your ring stays where it is the rate stays the same so no matter how many times you buy incremental reinforcements it will always be a 0.01326% chance to go from +11 to +12 (not real rates).


I think this method of reinforcement is imperative in this server which is so reliant on crafting.

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Empty complaints lead to no solutions make a suggestion dedicate a thread to it to be extra sure and people can talk about it.

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Originally Posted by ShadowAce

This new server is still being tweaked you can expect rates to be modified on the next maintenance aside from that it would be better if you guys suggested some ways to make things better like I did to the reinforcement problem.




Empty complaints lead to no solutions make a suggestion dedicate a thread to it to be extra sure and people can talk about it.

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People been begging for better rates and prices for a long time in lots of threads. Nobody complains when you spend 50 bucks and get some cool stuff to play with...its when you spend 50 bucks and see fail fail fail fail. They don't listen, go ahead and suggest all the dumb **** you want. Even with what you suggested...they already have +1 reinforce tickets...they'd just need to make them a bit more available.

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Originally Posted by Gadwin83

People been begging for better rates and prices for a long time in lots of threads. Nobody complains when you spend 50 bucks and get some cool stuff to play with...its when you spend 50 bucks and see fail fail fail fail. They don't listen, go ahead and suggest all the dumb **** you want. Even with what you suggested...they already have +1 reinforce tickets...they'd just need to make them a bit more available.

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what exactly is a long time there has not even been 1 maint for that server. 5 days and you are all going ape**** over the rates like its never going to change atzigan commented multiple times that the rates are not set in stone and they are looking to make the correct change the 1st time instead of having it change from time to time.

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Originally Posted by ShadowAce

what exactly is a long time there has not even been 1 maint for that server. 5 days and you are all going ape**** over the rates like its never going to change atzigan commented multiple times that the rates are not set in stone and they are looking to make the correct change the 1st time instead of having it change from time to time.

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I'm talking about the game in general. Just for example, look at all the positive feedback for Jin's new boosted rates event on friday lol. Some poor bastard I was talking to in game failed making his weapon glacial 10x in a row. How much fun is that? -50 bucks on pres stones and NOTHING, plus whatever he already spent on option/pres stones to get his serpent split how it was. 100+ bucks on a single weapon and its not even finished yet...screw that lol. That just pisses people off and makes them not play/spend more. Even on the new server wait til some "new" player spends 100 bucks and he's lucky if he gets 1, super lucky if he gets 2 chimera pieces to +12 because he just saw his money getting pissed away on FAIL FAIL FAIL...that's a "great" way to keep players.

Like I said in previous posts reinforcement rates have to be ridiculously good to be able to go through 2 weapons and 2 sets of armour and 4 rings. I dont think they thought that far into this. As for the other servers I think ran and jin should merge together now and both rates together on 1 server. Ran server never has problems with forging or reinforcing and I really see absolutely no reason to want to play jin over isen or ran.

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Originally Posted by ShadowAce

Like I said in previous posts reinforcement rates have to be ridiculously good to be able to go through 2 weapons and 2 sets of armour and 4 rings. I dont think they thought that far into this. As for the other servers I think ran and jin should merge together now and both rates together on 1 server. Ran server never has problems with forging or reinforcing and I really see absolutely no reason to want to play jin over isen or ran.

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That's funny, I see no reason to play Ran or Isen over Jin. Ran = epics/upgrades, Isen = nerfed forged gear, craft gear dominates.

If they were smart they would promote Jin as the server for farmers/forging, but, they aren't lol.

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Originally Posted by Gadwin83

I'm talking about the game in general. Just for example, look at all the positive feedback for Jin's new boosted rates event on friday lol. Some poor bastard I was talking to in game failed making his weapon glacial 10x in a row. How much fun is that? -50 bucks on pres stones and NOTHING, plus whatever he already spent on option/pres stones to get his serpent split how it was. 100+ bucks on a single weapon and its not even finished yet...screw that lol. That just pisses people off and makes them not play/spend more. Even on the new server wait til some "new" player spends 100 bucks and he's lucky if he gets 1, super lucky if he gets 2 chimera pieces to +12 because he just saw his money getting pissed away on FAIL FAIL FAIL...that's a "great" way to keep players.

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Nope, we're all sticky with chimera +6. that's fine. I mean when you realizes it takes up to 20 tries to make a chimea +6, you WON'T try +12. On Jin, you could get +6 between 1 and 5 tries. What's that goddamn rate for +12 ? If the rate is the same as obtaining 777 in dung, then im fine with it on the server because no1 going to have it lmao.


In like 3 years, no one rolled a damn 7 7 7.

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Originally Posted by Gadwin83

That's funny, I see no reason to play Ran or Isen over Jin. Ran = balanced pvp, Isen = nerfed forged gear, craft gear dominates. (I admit that aside from selling stuff I dont see much potential on isen).

If they were smart they would promote Jin as the server for farmers/forging, but, they aren't lol.

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Jin is so dead they should just merge I know you will blabla complain but you will adjust I have no worry about that.

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Originally Posted by ShadowAce

what exactly is a long time there has not even been 1 maint for that server. 5 days and you are all going ape**** over the rates like its never going to change atzigan commented multiple times that the rates are not set in stone and they are looking to make the correct change the 1st time instead of having it change from time to time.

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i would like you to read again? not going ape*** over the rates on isen server. if i wanted rates i would play on jin or ran and i am playing on jin i just stated it out there

the PROBLEM with isen server and what makes me mad about it is that the gms goes out with we make a more balanced server not as money heavy. we let u guys buy chimera for crones.
but that server is more money dependant then jin or ran. NOT because of the rates but because of the dumb idea of making opaniel armor. we all know how overpowered and unstoppable the at least jin templars with +18 opaniel club with stones on are. i dont even wanna think about giving them a equal armor to make +18 to and stone up. how those templars will be.

and then what will happen with everyone who cannot spend rps to make their "free" armor + and put stones in it every week? glacial armor will be worthless on that server, forging in general will be worthless on that server its all about making your freaking wep and armors + for rps

this is nothing they can just fix during next maintance because this is what this server is all about! just a way for them to get more money and thanks to their lies they killed the other two servers since everyone move to isen because its suppose to be balanced. well maybe it is now when everyone is under lvl 50. but enjoy your late game templars and you guys will see the new server is worse then the other two. AT LEAST those servers have better exp and forging rates and drop for that matter and on those servers glacial and forging in general wont be worthless

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Originally Posted by Bellarice

i would like you to read again? not going ape*** over the rates on isen server. if i wanted rates i would play on jin or ran and i am playing on jin i just stated it out there

the PROBLEM with isen server and what makes me mad about it is that the gms goes out with we make a more balanced server not as money heavy. we let u guys buy chimera for crones.
but that server is more money dependant then jin or ran. NOT because of the rates but because of the dumb idea of making opaniel armor. we all know how overpowered and unstoppable the at least jin templars with +18 opaniel club with stones on are. i dont even wanna think about giving them a equal armor to make +18 to and stone up. how those templars will be.
its always been a templar game even if they capped the weapons at tier 5 it would be the same problem.
and then what will happen with everyone who cannot spend rps to make their "free" armor + and put stones in it every week? glacial armor will be worthless on that server, forging in general will be worthless on that server its all about making your freaking wep and armors + for rps
power arena is 2 times a day if you lose both thats 10 badges or 1 spirit stone if you win both thats 2 badges or 2 spirit stones if you win one and lose one its 15 which is also 2 spirit stones. You can also purchase 100% pres (it doesnt give 20% success rate) on the badge exchange and you probably wont have to put stones in everything since you will want skill def armour and tasset. Eventually it will be fine right now you only have 1 char in 2 months people are gonna have 2 or more and just collect power badges like crazy. You can also make +4 stones in game coupled with the 100% pres to reinforce ingame you are not completely screwed. Not to mention while weapon farming is going to be unstable you can still make a lot by selling SES and crones to purchase spirit stones and reinforcement from the IM as well.
this is nothing they can just fix during next maintance because this is what this server is all about! just a way for them to get more money and thanks to their lies they killed the other two servers since everyone move to isen because its suppose to be balanced. well maybe it is now when everyone is under lvl 50. but enjoy your late game templars and you guys will see the new server is worse then the other two. AT LEAST those servers have better exp and forging rates and drop for that matter and on those servers glacial and forging in general wont be worthless

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Isen is a work in progress with positive suggestions and feedback changes can be made. I suggested an incremental reinforcement system before and the rates will be changed. There are things that the GMs can do this is not a forced update from korea have a little faith and if you would rather not then ran is always an option for you.

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Originally Posted by ShadowAce

Isen is a work in progress with positive suggestions and feedback changes can be made. I suggested an incremental reinforcement system before and the rates will be changed. There are things that the GMs can do this is not a forced update from korea have a little faith and if you would rather not then ran is always an option for you.

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WTF?! im not talking about the rates bro! what im talking about is that no matter what you have to buy the reinforcmentstones for rps! and to make it +18 you need VERY many and then u need the 7 day stones that adds stats onthem at all time THATS my point -.- idgf about the rates just saying that forged items be pis.s and s.hit on this server and pay to win is all that matters you cant free play this server :) not later on when everyone lvled

sure yes u can sell some stuff here and there as a free player to earn a small amount of rps but ye... thats hard i cant even sell my 3x 115 characters been trying for 2 months + now ;D

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Originally Posted by Bellarice

WTF?! im not talking about the rates bro! what im talking about is that no matter what you have to buy the reinforcmentstones for rps! and to make it +18 you need VERY many and then u need the 7 day stones that adds stats onthem at all time THATS my point -.- idgf about the rates just saying that forged items be pis.s and s.hit on this server and pay to win is all that matters you cant free play this server :) not later on when everyone lvled

sure yes u can sell some stuff here and there as a free player to earn a small amount of rps but ye... thats hard i cant even sell my 3x 115 characters been trying for 2 months + now ;D

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This is still about rates you would not care about having to make crafted gear +6/12/18 etc if the rates were fair and it only took 10 attempts.