We welcome all to jainus and you will taste the rage by relativity a.k.a white
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Hey, sorry but i've been in holiday for 4 days and i just returned..
Decision is up to me beside i take every advice personally and try to improve.
Here's the result of 4 days in HK
NO PK since then, farmed lot of ses, had properly stacked the inventory for guild stone misc items & bones.
Resulted on good drops and 97% exp from 101.. So i take it.
Edwin running and Epic sword..
No Shield-No dual yet- No money ahah..
In game name is Grog if anyone has a guild i can join to learn more, i'll be glad to enjoy!
absolutely decision is yours.
Well what you wanna do from there? Can't give advice if we don't know what you're aiming..
If you said no money, then back like before, farm and farm, doing minor dung, and collect bones, dont forget to trade into box before event ends.
and the advice for both farming is still same, make a rumir xD its really the easiest class for you to do anything(farm bones/jewel/support).
Maybe other have good advice for you.
about guild, hmm idk about guild.
currently there are no pure farming friendly guild thats really good. Maybe BLACKLAND but that guild is full of germany, and the leader loves to QQ.
E2N + Syndicate is ally, they are on war with Royals + COVENANT.
I am not suggesting you to join them until you ready your PVP char.
Oh those above are the only guild that really consist of multiple players, the other guild you see, big chance is just a one man guild or something like that.
anyway another thing to consider is, create a guild with your alt just to utilize its guild bank(make your one man guild too xD)
I joined one called JustForTwo, very friendly and gave me on borrow a Glacial set, which is much better than my edwin, while we are farming together, still wielding a sword without a dagger or shield, also still running on str prendants, which i might switch to vit as i'm just farming up, that could be best to get more hunting bonuses on a day ( Basically not interested on levels )
I'd like to know where i could farm better armor or forge my Blood War Champion, i found a guy owning it and looks very bad ass!
He linked to me, however i couldn't find anything about it around
Well I can't talk for other players, I can only say how much I can make. Say I'm in a hypothetical scenario of not having to study or work nor have a social life and I could farm 24 with 2PCs + run 2-3 kiosks (farming using low lvl chars). I would ONLY focus on making ecash and not upgrad the gear of my characters further and I would use some money/crone/ecash to invest into items that increase in value over time.
I would say I'd be able to make about 30-50k ecash a month in that specific scenario, depending on your luck (opening boxes) and also on getting sales (to buy IM items cheap/stock up on hks, som 7s etc for farmers)
If I'd however do the same as I said above but I somehow had a full party of 6 characters+50 with max gear. I'm pretty sure I could generate 50k ecash a month or more. You have to however take into account that the amount of ecash it costs to gear a party of 6 with max to semi max gears is very high (200k ecash for each char * 6 = 1.2 million ecash invested) this is your buy-in, after that you have to spend lots of money to maintain those characters so that's deducted from your income.
30k or even more if you hardcore 24/7, i never did it myself because i am not robot xD
but pretty sure i make around at least 10k per month farming casually in mirror and INTER.
Just wanna add some note.
Aside from producing/farming things, you also need to sell it, thus rivalry on EM is another parameter to consider.
With that in mind, rpk-ing ingame is another strategy to delete your rival productivity. Cause everything is a competition, even we live in a world full of competition to bring food to our table.
Soo whoever say rpk is useless and there must be none, i believe they live in a world full of peace without competition eating grass everyday xD
Your point might be exactly right, however i cant get the bigger picture..
Because i'm wearing an epic sword with usual pve rings and a glacial armor?
I don't think i can do that what you are asking me to be.
On top of that, should i try to sell my sword for a weapon i can use to farm?
Thanks for the replies as usual!
I don't think you'll be able to farm at the capacity the others have suggested. At the very least as a guardian (from another guardian), keeping in mind you have an epic sword and limited funds, I would suggest you to:
a) Trade your epic sword for an epic dagger, get a cheap onyx shield for the 50% block rate (any will do as long as it's an onyx shield). Then slowly work your way to getting an opaniel shield.
b) Trade your epic sword for two opaniel tickets (for an opaniel dagger and an opaniel sphere - which you will use on a rumir to help you farm), then get a cheap onyx shield. Then slowly work your way to getting an opaniel shield.
c) Trade your epic sword for two opaniel tickets (for an opaniel dagger and an opaniel shield).
In any of the cases listed above, you need to farm mirror dungeons for pet tickets and T-Ash stones (with your guard and/or rumir) and time jewel boxes/black diamond boxes (with alts) to at least get a self-sustaining economy thing going. Then work from there.
a) This would be 1% chance happen cause ppl dont want sword
b) This would be 0% chance happen cause diego dislike rumir
c) look at (a)
I might be wrong but i was reallly sure, when he bought epic sword is like a wrong decision , no one wants sword today, so hope for trading it is like hoping the GM fix the venge abuse. But keep trying for diego maybe someone just will, we never knows,and sorry if i sounds negative but really you wont find a high lv guard using sword except BayTozi who lives in ronelia cell and never see sun xD
As for diego, you're right, you have better chance by selling it(Cheaaaap, and hope someone fell for it) rather than trade it, Get an Opa dag from the Ecash you get and Onyx Shield, another option is Shiny Dag(Forged dag with 4x DD, 9/10 abs, max melee) usually cheaper than Opa Dag and you dont need to put spirit stone regularly, saving you more cash. Get Onyx str set if you have some cash left.
The sad fact is, all of this suggestion was just to liberating you from your wrong decision buying epic sword and not really help you in farming at mirror or INTER(Later) SOLO. Still need party. And you wont do damage.
So your best ffarming choce is still Minor and Bones :)
LoL the bigger picture for you is to start make predators and rumirs xD
I want to thank you and AchanClub For all the replies, that always helped me out around in these days.
I will try to make a fair trade see what i can find so that then i can start farming very well.
If you guys know someone interested on epic sword for even an upg with leech, such as bow or staff ( which i higly doubt someone will ever trade ) then, please TO let me know!!!
Also contact me in game anytime, name's Grog !
glad i can help, it refresh my mind to help passionate player like you, and i'm sick of beggar in game haaha..
sure , i will let you know,
well i got trans 2.0 bow abs upg 61DD lv 10, but i want to trade it with upg zheen, i'm interested with dekan int but i know no one will trade me
beside they will do balance patch, so i will hold my weapons now before making wrong decision. i think many player will do the same maybe? another option you can do is try to get a dag now asap, and start put your sword on EM, hope it sold before guardian got updated, because white said(mostly hes right tho) the update may not alter how a class behave, so i predict the dag+shield guard is still gonna be what running on the earth. and if that happens your chance selling the sword is harder.
ofc it just and advice.
suree i'll call you if im on.
I see..
Well i'm unsure to trade it for anything, i couldn't find any deals at all for now.
I might stick to the sword and try aim for a dagger as dual, after all i thought.. What makes a guard worse than a scout or a wiz?
For farming?
They all have aoes at a certain level, so please help me understand that!
I don't beg anything at all :P
I've explained this before and so has Archan, guard relies on combo to deal good damage. hunterkit doesnt pop combo (CS + OS) until a monster died. This means you will just use auto-attacks until the monster is dead and then combo once on a monster and then auto attack again till its dead. it's a very slow way of killing. Not to mention you'll die during rebuff.
Your problem is you do not take the advice that's given to you xD. You started on ISEN even though many adviced against it. You quit ISEN and start JAINUS, you ask which characters you should make to start with, you get adviced to make a Rumir and a predator but instead you ignore that advice and make a guard and buy the wrong weapon for it.
This is what's going to happen:
I'll give you some time and you are going to quit guard and play another class, after a few weeks you're gonna realise that doesn't work out too so you'll eventually make a Rumir to support you. By this time you have however already wasted so much of your money you don't have enough ecash left to properly gear a Rumir nor a predator. At this point you're stuck with multiple unfinished chars, sh1t gears, no way to farm or pvp and you still can't play the class you really wanted to play. You've created the perfect downwards spiral for yourself to end up in a big nothingness. You're not alone, this is how at least 70-80% of the rohan community plays this game. When they reach the end of that spiral they either 1. quit the game or 2. spend a lot of $ to get out of that spiral and finally make a good character. There is a third option which is rarely seen which are the people that get out of that negative spiral by simply changing tactics in a versatile way while farming themselves a good char and good gear.
Now there's also people like me, who investigate, test and carefully plan their approach to a game (in this case Rohan). After which they progressively and patiently unfold that approach through time. I don't really make mistakes, I'm VERY rich and it has not cost me any real money nor 24/7 playing to become the player I am today. but yea, why listen to someone with 10 years of experience who has seen it all and helped more people in this game than you have met in the entire time you're here. Sounds like you're doing it right :)
You don't have enough money to gear a scout or wizzard well enough to farm in mirror dungeons. I would await the balance patch for wiz/lock to decide weather you want to go for those classes or not.
Epic sword, you can try 25-30k ecash. It's gonne be hard to sell.
That depends solely on the circumstances. Diego said he wanted to solo without support, if you want to solo on a scout, you gonna need everything maxed out to not die while rebuffing. If you put your scout in a party with supports, just medium gear/lvl is good enough.
wizzard is not a good dps, you'll kill very slow. with priest and Rumir as support you'll stay alive though. Good you finally decided to actually make supports.
Thank you man!
Hope to see you in game!!
Farming is going okay, no event so i can't complain lol.
So Keith!! What happened to you? Go back to Isen?
Oh yea, and some dude was saying something about a staff trade that went wrong? Idk, something about how you were to trade him a staff for ecash, he gave you the ecash but he never got the staff and now he can't find you? And now your Wiz Huxley is sold? mmmm I'm sure there's some kind of mix up here right?
To bad we still have scammers around...
So yes keith has Scammed us, not only a staff, i lent him a Nurse Silva Pet for tsb and never got it back, he was gonn purchase it but that never went down. and hes scammed a few other ppl form Leviathan as well. so watch out for him.
+1 I TOLD YOU PEOPLE WHY NOBODY LISTENS!
Also wizz is a trash class needs lots of gear I got over 3.5k psy and SD armor (when that used to reduce damage in mirror) still died within 2 waves. Needs a lot of gear +50 trans title the whole 9 to be able to wizz properly.
Lmao i dont have a rumir.. and i can still farm on all places with +6 skills xD
Only my dekan have a few +7 skills
Yea, pretty sure he's not even who he says he is and I cant shake the feeling that he is someone I know, playing games and back to his scamming/ lying ways. Its funny but "Keith" happened to tell me a story of how he happened to run into my Rohan "stalker" on Isen and knew stuff abt him that I didn't even mention. That right there set my alarm bells off. Instinct tells me that they are one in the same person. I could be wrong, but "Keiths" actions have rly lead me to believe that this is possible.
But hey, at least now this guy has been outed. Sure, he will make new chars, scam more stuff lie and cheat his way through this game, and no one will take heed of warnings and not do stupid deals with c Unty people, but all we can do is try eh.
im out of the loop what happun?
The guy that started this Thread "Keith" after yall convinced him to go to janius, used it as a way to rip off me and a few f my guild mates of items we lent him or what not, in other words he turned out to be a scammer. personally i lost a Darkness Onyx Mace and a Nurse Silva Pet to him, another Guild make 6k ecash, others large sums of crone he "borrowed" and some other items, he had us all fooled. BTW i am the Guild Leader of Leviathan and have been playing for like 9 years. Iceyy i remeber u from my days on that server, idk if you Remebr any of my toons from there even my old guilds there. PurpleBastard was my predator, and i was the guild master of DeadlyBastards but any how, that should catch u up to speed.
aw damn, sorry to hear that, good for me i never PM him in game.
Something indeed fishy, he said he was a total newbie, but he got so well developed in-game just in 22 days. Even with helps, that ain't newbie.