Dekan discussion

For Dragon Sage, full STR seemed like the best option for fast leveling until you can get Wide Forefoot Swing. Then you reset to full VIT and the only important skills are Evolve, Critical Immunity (to reduce critical damage), Health Funnel (to heal), FFS and WFFS (to do damage and wait 11 seconds for cooldown to finish to use again), and Death Flow / Combine Flow for stuns.
Good class for farming if you don't plan to spend much, but also pretty boring. Now that STR buffs from Guardian can't be used, STR / INT / Separation builds seem useless.

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Originally Posted by Franky1991

I don't see where the fk you saw dekans one shotting everyone cuz we were already unable to one shot ppl cuz of the OP inflated stats gear all chars have these days, and now it's not with a fkin 36k dffs that I'm gonna one shot ppl... won't even be able to kill anyone now! Thanks YNK -_-

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Vit dekans were ridiculous OP for years after they introduced heroic skills...I don't want to see FFS damage jacked way up so they function like they used to was all I was saying. I don't care if they modify it or change it or whatever, it seems like they are going to give every class an overhaul, but man was it retarded back in the day when you thought you were pretty badass with your flame diamonds and 30k hp and a DK walks over and pops you for a 50k DFFS with no way to mitigate or avoid it. They were as bad as templars back then, they just didn't scale as well over the years.

VIT dekans ridiculous? ! hahahaha Temps are ridiculous man, temp with the ultimate skill still hit hard lol

My dekan stuff has been updated you can take a look at it below.

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

Iceyy's Partially Complete guide to fixing dekans:

Step 1: Delete FFS DFFS WFFS from the game. Vit builds were a bandaid fix to a class that was broken a long long time ago.

Dragon Fighter:
Dragons Power:
10/15/20/25/30/35/40% Melee attack
15/20/25/30/35/40/45% Intelligance.

Forefoot Swing:
Deals 0.3/0.5/0.7/0.9/1/1.5/2/2.5% target max HP.
Deals 70/80/90/100/110/125/150% Melee Damage

Dragons Tail:
Scaling remains untouched
Deals 0.3/0.5/0.7/0.9/1/1.5/2/2.5% target max HP.

Zhen Counter:
Scaling remains untouched
Heals 0.5/1/1.5/3/5/7/9% of current HP per target.

Breath:
Deals 0.5/0.7/0.9/1.2/1.5/1.8/2.5/2.8% target max HP.
800/850/900/950/1000/1100/1200% of MATK

Health Drain:
Deals 0.5/0.7/0.9/1.2/1.5/1.8/2.5/2.8% target max HP.
800/830/860/890/920/950/1000% of MATK


Dragon Knight:

Dragon Nail:
Dragon nail probability increased to 15/16/17/18/19/20/25 %
Dragon nail now applies a 0.3/0.5/0.5/0.7/1/1.5/2 second stun
Dragon nail now has critical strike of 30/50/70/90/100/150/200% damage
Dragon nail now has a bleed effect of 1.5% hp for 2/3/4/5/6/7/8 ticks (similar to invenom)


The following abilities have the ability to proc Dragon Nail bleed effect:
Penetrate, Divide Flow, Double Forefoot Swing

Zhen Mastery:
Scaling Remains unchanged.
Increased crit rate by 1/1.5/3/4.5/7/10/12%

Blue Defense:
35/45/55/60/65/75/85 recieved DMG reduced under attack.

Critical Immunity:
400/500/600/700/800/900/1000 Crit damage drop

EVOLVE:
15/20/25/30/35/45/55% boost in attack
10/10/15/15/20/30/40% boost in HP.


Suction:
Scaling Remains Unchanged.
25/25/50/50/75/100/100% Chance to widen your ATT range
60/55/45/40/35/30/20% Reduced DMG to targets within 10m range.

Sudden Death:
10/15/20/25/30/35/40% additional Damage to your attacks.
10/15/20/25/30/35/40 health is drained per second

Blood Effect:
1/2/3/4/5/9/12% Chance for a cit during evo
1/2/3/4/5/9/12 mana is drained per second.

Toxic Potion:
Now works on teardrops.

Forced Lock:
5/10/15/20/25/30/35% Critical Damage boost (no str/dex based boost)
Critical hits increase Dragon's Nail bleed by 1/1/1/1/1/2/2 seconds.

Double Forefoot Swing:
Deals 0.3/0.5/0.7/0.9/1/1.5/2/2.5% target max HP.
Deals 140/160/180/200/220/250/300% Melee Damage
15/15/20/20/30/40/50% chance to apply dragon nail bleed for 6 additional seconds.

DRAGON SAGE: Coming soon.

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Originally Posted by sunnyangel

Iceyy's Partially Complete guide to fixing dekans:

Step 1: Delete FFS DFFS WFFS from the game. Vit builds were a bandaid fix to a class that was broken a long long time ago.

Dragon Fighter:
Dragons Power:
10/15/20/25/30/35/40% Melee attack
15/20/25/30/35/40/45% Intelligance.

Forefoot Swing:
Deals 0.3/0.5/0.7/0.9/1/1.5/2/2.5% target max HP.
Deals 70/80/90/100/110/125/150% Melee Damage

Dragons Tail:
Scaling remains untouched
Deals 0.3/0.5/0.7/0.9/1/1.5/2/2.5% target max HP.

Zhen Counter:
Scaling remains untouched
Heals 0.5/1/1.5/3/5/7/9% of current HP per target.

Breath:
Deals 0.5/0.7/0.9/1.2/1.5/1.8/2.5/2.8% target max HP.
800/850/900/950/1000/1100/1200% of MATK

Health Drain:
Deals 0.5/0.7/0.9/1.2/1.5/1.8/2.5/2.8% target max HP.
800/830/860/890/920/950/1000% of MATK


Dragon Knight:

Dragon Nail:
Dragon nail probability increased to 15/16/17/18/19/20/25 %
Dragon nail now applies a 0.3/0.5/0.5/0.7/1/1.5/2 second stun
Dragon nail now has critical strike of 30/50/70/90/100/150/200% damage
Dragon nail now has a bleed effect of 1.5% hp for 2/3/4/5/6/7/8 ticks (similar to invenom)


The following abilities have the ability to proc Dragon Nail bleed effect:
Penetrate, Divide Flow, Double Forefoot Swing

Zhen Mastery:
Scaling Remains unchanged.
Increased crit rate by 1/1.5/3/4.5/7/10/12%

Blue Defense:
35/45/55/60/65/75/85 recieved DMG reduced under attack.

Critical Immunity:
400/500/600/700/800/900/1000 Crit damage drop

EVOLVE:
15/20/25/30/35/45/55% boost in attack
10/10/15/15/20/30/40% boost in HP.


Suction:
Scaling Remains Unchanged.
25/25/50/50/75/100/100% Chance to widen your ATT range
60/55/45/40/35/30/20% Reduced DMG to targets within 10m range.

Sudden Death:
10/15/20/25/30/35/40% additional Damage to your attacks.
10/15/20/25/30/35/40 health is drained per second

Blood Effect:
1/2/3/4/5/9/12% Chance for a cit during evo
1/2/3/4/5/9/12 mana is drained per second.

Toxic Potion:
Now works on teardrops.

Forced Lock:
5/10/15/20/25/30/35% Critical Damage boost (no str/dex based boost)
Critical hits increase Dragon's Nail bleed by 1/1/1/1/1/2/2 seconds.

Double Forefoot Swing:
Deals 0.3/0.5/0.7/0.9/1/1.5/2/2.5% target max HP.
Deals 140/160/180/200/220/250/300% Melee Damage
15/15/20/20/30/40/50% chance to apply dragon nail bleed for 6 additional seconds.

DRAGON SAGE: Coming soon.

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to be honest,this is bull**** lol

It's not that it's complete bullshit, but that it is too much of a fundamental reorganisation of skills that makes it nigh impossible to have it implemented.

Any changes should be small, but significant.
Change of values, copy-paste of skills (of other classes) like they already do with different name/values.. stuff like that. Why? Not because I like that better..but because chances for it to happen increase as the amount of work decreases.

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Originally Posted by EaglePhoenix

It's not that it's complete bullshit, but that it is too much of a fundamental reorganisation of skills that makes it nigh impossible to have it implemented.

Any changes should be small, but significant.
Change of values, copy-paste of skills (of other classes) like they already do with different name/values.. stuff like that. Why? Not because I like that better..but because chances for it to happen increase as the amount of work decreases.

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well you cant just push away one of legendary rohan class been exist all the time,people talking about vit dekans overpower all the time,i just lol,because 100 lvl under dhan can kill 115+10 or more dekan so easy also any upgrade weapon class so hard to one shot,i have one of the max gear dekan and atm im not using im,450k hp=35k wffs or around that to be honest this damage is bull**** while dekan using skills at pvp and it has cd,people not even need to use pot for hp up,health regeneration enough for recover it back so only atm if you have +20 dragon sage its best troll seems but how many +20 lvl exist atm :D so if they double damage wffs wont be any problem %100 sure,if people need cry about something this must be noir and rumir worst bull**** classes exist lol

I have only fcking 3.0 zhen

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Originally Posted by YuMadBro

well you cant just push away one of legendary rohan class been exist all the time,people talking about vit dekans overpower all the time,i just lol,because 100 lvl under dhan can kill 115+10 or more dekan so easy also any upgrade weapon class so hard to one shot,i have one of the max gear dekan and atm im not using im,450k hp=35k wffs or around that to be honest this damage is bull**** while dekan using skills at pvp and it has cd,people not even need to use pot for hp up,health regeneration enough for recover it back so only atm if you have +20 dragon sage its best troll seems but how many +20 lvl exist atm :D so if they double damage wffs wont be any problem %100 sure,if people need cry about something this must be noir and rumir worst bull**** classes exist lol

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Maybe, but people only take upgr./epics into account - forgetting that there are multiple servers with different armours/weapons - etc.
Also, not everyone has an upgr. or only gets it very late and that's not an issue of the scrubs being poor - but a balancing issue. Game should be balanced both with and without upgraded weapons, crafted/plussed accessories and what not else.

I have 3.0 upg zhen with only 130% hp this zhen is with out magic and mele attack what i can do with him?