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who cares, he never managed to snipe a single ruler lel.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
NO do not calm down, please create utter chaos and riot the fk out of your minds, thank you in advance XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Reapmaster
Lol you must be joking! How could I say "ISEN is mine" when our guild itself is not mine. But sometimes I played as a Guild Leader during TSB but not during that time when you asked for help, like I said I do not own the guild and the one who has authority to decide is only our Guild Leader. Did you not notice I played 3 characters and doing PVP, too much on my plate if I played as guild leader and it is very hard to control multiple character at the same time. For your information I did not pilot the GL since I changed race/class my Ranger to Predator.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackassed
You are the most hated PPL now in Isen server not because you PKed a lot of PPL in-game but your rude approach and being arrogant.
Move on dude because of 1 TSB you let your personality swallowed by your ego.
Look i don't want to protect anyone in here.. But you guys do take this game too personally!!
Kill each other without hate, it's a pixel game, like for real!! There are more important matters in life than this..
BTW we won again!! ^-^
Obviously you havnt played thisg ame long enough because this game is real life!
this game is the game of thrones of games full of deception, lies and honorable people who get F!@#$ked
No thanks, just looking for entertainment not anything else :D!Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
i lulzed XDQuote:
Originally Posted by sunnyangel
You know nothing. The night is dark and full of terrors. Winter is coming!Quote:
Originally Posted by DiegoRenault
fixed /10charsQuote:
Originally Posted by PenguinJoe
No merge any time soon, ISEN carebears are scared of big bad mean Jainus PVPers and their upgrades (I'm not even kidding)
Why would they merge the two servers?
That are so different from what i heard about, one is P2W the other is Patience as hell
if you think that isen isnt p2w then you not paying attention lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DiegoRenault
That's more like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiegoRenault
The main reason they don't merge is because the people on ISEN are literally scared of JAINUS players. ISEN is much more peaceful with less pvp and rpk (because there's no-one there to kill lmfao) so ISEN players do not want to be mixed with the PVP hungry JAINUS players. As for P2W, ISEN is worse, maxing out your gear there can only be done by spending tonns of $ to make it yourself, you will spend small amounts of money, many times (which in the end results in a larger amount). In jainus you have a good economy going that allows you farm & sell quickly. You can get upgraded weapons, opaniel sets and what not just by farming (I know plenty of people who did it without spending $ or only $10 for EM membership). If you do not want to farm that much, you'll have to spend $ to buy your gear, this buy-in is a lot larger than on ISEN. Because the buy-in is larger people say ''Jainus is P2W'' but if you look at a maxed out ISEN player (smaller buy-in but large amount of money spend over time) and a maxed out JAINUS player (large buy-in but small amount of money spent over time), I'm pretty damn sure the ISEN player has spend more $ in total, specially if they play longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiegoRenault
You didn't take my word for it when you started and you still wont, which is fine it's your choice to play on an almost empty server. I've played on ISEN for about half a year so I know what it's like and I'm not returning there lmao.
what white said is all 100% true, i tried ISEN too long ago, but only a week because i cant stand how empty it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Arctic Fox
As i said I wont persuade you to come in jainus anymore, Im fine if you are super optimistic with your ISEN server, but you keep saying Jainus is P2W did you even try the server? if you just heard that from ISEN players and assume its a non possible server for non spender, then sir, you are an ignorant, just saying lol
But for whos new joining Jainus is a pain, it's not a PK Issue on my matter at least, is that i don't think i could find a way to make enough money to buy there something to get on farming.
What i've seen you guys got epic and upg.
Now i've been farming around 30k ecash, that won't make me even start in Jainus, see the point?
I would probably switch server, cause i indeed do lack people to play with.
I dont agree with you, a noob have a better start here then in jainus, to join top players its 100x easyer on isen then on jainus, i dont have spent any cash and i have almost the same gear wat the top players have.... allot ppl that playing on jainus always say that isen is pay to win , but its a lie for sure, because i can proof you ingame thats its so much easyer on isen then on jainus ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by White Arctic Fox
I ask allot players why the came to isen and quit jainus.. the main reason are those upg weapons, if the merge will come 90% will quit, so i dont see any good point in merge the serveraQuote:
Originally Posted by DiegoRenault
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Originally Posted by DiegoRenault
Well..
i thought i told you on the other thread that i start jainus and i didnt spend more than 10$(for EM member) 3 years ago, and i have 6 upgs with 2 of them are katars which price of one is more than 99k RPS today. believe it or not but it means it is possible to start in jainus and make money here. and yes upgs and epic already here when i was a zero thing joined here. maybe its right easier to start at isen, well idk, but thinking jainus has upgs and declared it is a P2W server, thus almost impossible to start there, without even try, while veterans already gave their experience, that is pure ignorant.
the only people who spend a lot are those who doesnt know how to farm, or know but lazy, or those who dont have time but wanna compete, hahah..
figure it out that both server is same, you farm to get things, it just ISEN has no upg, and JAINUS has,
you say 30k Ecash is nothing in jainus, well not really, a decent gear you can get, onyx set is super cheap, non upg weapon cheap, if it just for farm 30k is more than enough, oh you can get an upg club too ;)
Also your problem is you are too self centered and cant really take other ppl advice if its againts your believe, shown on your other thread how you keep stand on your believe that ISEN is the best server for you. thats ok, i dont really care xD
you just joined the game like 1 month and you are still a baby, your knowledge on this game(i dont mean the in-game things) is still in a nutshell, especially you havent tried jainus, the server with more population.
but if you wanna compete in high level end game, then reflect to what reapmaster said
Jainus is the true "patience as hell serve" be patient and get your gear by farming, if you want fast end game than it is indeed ISEN.
conclusion Jainus need more time to reach high end competition than ISEN, but has more population(more pvp, more friends, more anything lol) and thus fun :)
No Im not persuading you to come here, besides how about your Isen family? :)
Note : Im sorry if theres any word that insulting, I didnt mean it , cheers :)
Okay, let's say i want to try and start Jainus, see what i can do and then decide if sell my items in ISEN.Quote:
Originally Posted by AchanClub
Family is big, i got them on discord can still chat to them and help!
What can i or should i actually do?
What should i spend ecash on?
Just asking
Yes i'm a baby in matter of knowledge of game..
But here i am taking every advice possible to make it better!
Ofcourse you do not realise the obvious, which is that the upgraded weapon is basically your buy-in, which is higher at jainus, which was the whole point of my post......nvm though I know you're not too fast in catching up lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DarkTuramus
Nobody is playing in ISEN, unless you like to be the top player of an empty server (which isn't hard).Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkTuramus
1. Make rumirs, farm ashkeena/upper/ronellia. preferably make 2-4 rumirs and farm them 24/7Quote:
Originally Posted by DiegoRenault
Either open the boxes you farm (time & event) or sell them, up2you.
2. Use the money (crone and RP) to gear a predator (opaniel katar(12-14k rps) (stones from IP mall) + PVE pendants +5 + Onyx STR set + abs set/chimera set + 7s/costume etc).
Use the predator with 1 or 2 rumirs to farm mirror dungeons and farm pet tickets, get all the pets you need then sell the pet tickets for rps or trade them for items
3. You now have at least 1 good geared Rumir 1 good geared predator, you can now pick any class you like (you want to play as a main) and farm yourself max pvp gear and an upgraded weapon (note that upg katars are insanely expensive).
What about Defenders?Quote:
Originally Posted by White Arctic Fox
I Don't like trinity at all..
I thought of a Templar and Scout, any advices?
Could we also get into chatting somewhere, rather than posting?
Like discord, perhaps you could clarify to me what nobody else could for now.
Sorry to be a pain in the a** so hard lol.
Defenders are not a good farm class, they kill way too slow compared to other dps classes. Rumirs are simply the most economic farmers for upper/ronelia/ash to farm event items. For mirror dungeons rumirs are support and you want a predator as main to farm.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiegoRenault
If you want to play templar you are going to need Rumir + defender + priest to support it, otherwise you will not deal enough damage. Also templar's melee scales exponentially with increasing intel, this exponential scaling doesn't really start up till roughly 6k+INT. so playing a lowbie templar sucks, damage wise and is not adviced. Scout is nice but again, you need max gear on them to solo (not to mention 115+50 and 1k title).
The options I gave you is the best and most cost efficient way to farm yourself up to a good main. 3 rumirs and 1 pred, after that you can pick any class you like (for example defender) and max it with pendants, wm, talisman, opa armour, upg and so on.
I have discord but I don't have time to reply to it, I only come here on the forums to give advice to players, beside that I'm busing with too many things IRL (including smacking ass in rohan).
I accept the option but while i will have to try and farm i will also need to enjoy playing, so here's another question.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Arctic Fox
What about wizards?
wizard its sucks at this time ,maybe gms will change something after maint . anyway change u re main class because defender its suport . also i agree whit Artic about rumir . i f u are smart u can play any server but u have to involve much time playing .
+1 on White already said the best advice, rumir is a fundamental support like it or not, if you dont like play rumir, then i'm afraid you cant solo mirror, need to find or make pt. predator is basic pve dps in mirror, they do the job well.
Even maxed gear scout with upg abs, sometimes still die in mirror due to lag or idk stacked crits by mobs if your hp low, scout is only good for farming system event(box/bones), wizard atm sucks for almost anything, pve outside mirror maybe?.
but you can try to play all classes just to figure out yourself, thats also fun.
Having Priest with epic club(to maintain that 5000 mana per 3 secs while using marea grace) are nice addition, they has marea grace to boost your max hp, it goes well with predator healing trap which use max hp percentage for its potency . while obligation isnt 24/7, it does give you a breahing too.
good luck
Thanks for the info!!
Based on the gear i will update you with the name and what class i will work on!
come to janus and buy a 1.0 weapon , where cheap this days . templar + defender also its a good team to farm everywere in my opinion . the problem on janus its rpk because here we have many haters on this server . thei rpk for fun and dont need any motive to kill u . on isen its another world ,most of the time the server are almost empty and farming items are easy . Save u re ecash and u can decide later if u want to change server . change u re ideeas about rumir because its the best suport ever ,much better than priest .
I'm giving a try right now
Name's Grog(Guardian)
Bought the Epic Sword, farming with a edwin and str pendants, as far as i could get for now.
With a trans pouch to wear it, so 101 already.
Got to work on the dagger-better armor and pretty much everything.
Drop your IGN here or if u can't cause of haters, then just PM ME in game :D
Buy IP tickets with crone and then make yourself an onyx str set (you can buy parts from the IP mall and forge yourself a set(focus on PDF only each unique part should have 100-190PDF), use Protection of Marea from player kiosks (50-100m each) to ench your set all on HP.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiegoRenault
Save up the rest of all your money and buy an epic dagger as well. Epic sword + Epic dagger will enable you to farm in mirror dungeons (in a party)
Welcome to jainus and set your hk on for farming 24/7. Oh wait! Make sure to have a 1 billion pdf to survive :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DiegoRenault
Lmao and dont forget to get killt evry 5 mins xDQuote:
Originally Posted by MAYAPUTOMAYA
I would suggest you try to trade that epic sword for an epic dagger, then get a shield instead. The extra attack speed using a dagger will more than make up the damage from going dual wield - especially when comboing. 50% block rate at lvl 7 bless shield (40% at 6) can't be understated.
Try getting an opaniel shield if you can. You can add 20% melee / 20% damage drop into it. You can do this with a transcended darkness onyx shield too but the extra 5% pvp 10%+ skill defense an opaniel shield gives helps loads - take this from me, one of the most tanky people in the game.
I've tried dual wield. I used to be dual wield. Trust me, it isn't worth it. Bonus points you don't have to spend extra RP for 2 weapons. If you have enough money for both an epic sword and dagger, get an upgrade 2.0 dagger instead. They go for 30-40k. You might have to dual log a rumir to help you survive in maps though. But all the benefits of using a sword (extra damage, extra DD from dual-wielding) go out the window the second you add melee and DD into an opaniel shield.
If you have any guardian-related questions, feel free to pm me in-game.
when you play a guard for starter i thought you are screwed, but when you bought epic sword, im sure you are.
guard isnt a farm char, its a PvP char and so will only be good if you max it, as white has said, you need to farm a lot more and then after you are steady and have good farmers, pick a class for main(PvP class such as guard) and max it.
guard cant farm solo in mirror or even with support it still has trouble to do steady dps(its a combo class and you cant 24/7 that), it's also bad for farming system event box/dust/bones because its a melee class.
It is good for PvP if you have max gear on it, super annoying and can kill almost anything. The class somewhat immortal too with that block rate 50%, SS.
but you can always try more things, i cant reallly give much advices as white already said it all the best advice for farmers, pred+rumir+priest for more safety. I just can say good luck. I think I saw you on GH Bindstone yesterday.
btw what reapmaster said is all true, that 50% block rate will make you delighted. Pray, someone will buy/trade your epic sword.
NOTE : I heard GM will do balance patch or such, im not sure what will happen to guard, including the viability of dual-wielding, hold your sword?.
It would have been better to just buy a dagger from the start but he already bought an epic sword (with all the RP he had). Did not want to discourage him saying he did it wrong but rather give him the option to continue on the path he already chose since there is most likely no turning back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reapmaster
Anyway what Jeff said is technically correct, it's better to use shield and dagger, however opaniel shield is gonna be 12-14k rps and you won't find anyone to trade your epic sword with (nobody really uses sword). Thus why I suggested to get an epic dagger next to dual wield. you'll have whilst dual wielding 20% hp/mp abs and 60% DD, this is enough for mirro dungeons.
What I'd do (personally) is make a noir, put the epic sword in the noir and use noir to farm, much better than guardians. Guard doesn't combo again untill a monster is dead, since your normal AA sucks d!ck without max gears (and even with it's so-so) you rely on combo, which doesn't go off untill you plowed through 3-5M hp from a mirror mob using noting but regulars. Also with the 200% melee cap they do not reach their full potential at lvl 115+50 (or even before that).
Diego is new and impatient xD, wanting to start with a PVP class straight away, it works but it's gonna require you to charge quite some $ as well as be more patient because you'll make progress much slower than when you create your own farm party. I played Avenger & Ranger when I started 10 years ago, let's say I didn't really make it very far (I didn't charge $).Quote:
Originally Posted by AchanClub
As for the balance patch, probably no big changes will be applied during that patch since changing classes a lot is risky and could enrage players. With the small community we have I'm not sure if they are willing to take that risk again.
With 1 billion pdf im gonna waste my time to kill youQuote:
Originally Posted by DarkTuramus
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Originally Posted by DiegoRenault
See you in Jainus, Clint! I'm moving now to Jainus from Isen. - Barbosa
And thanks to White and other people in Jainus, I'm actually learning alot from you guys. Keep sharing your advices. :3